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Umpiring was terrible last night. How could they not call this out on the full?
 
Frank Grimes said:
I can't really see how the decision is correct. It's either a goal or nothing. For it to be a goal it has to come off a players boot and be fully over the line. If a ball is touched on the line it is not technically a goal or a point but play on.

When an umpire makes the touched gesture it is more about telling the crowd and players why the goal wasn't awarded rather than why point is awarded if that makes sense. If after the siren the ball falls 5 meters short and it knocked through the goal by a players hand then that isn't payed a point. Technically this isn't any different.

Is it possible for Richmond to protest the final score of the game? This isn't a case of a goal resulting from a free kick which wasn't there or wasn't payed when it was there. It's not even like the one where the goal umpire got in the way of the incoming ball. In those cases it can be argued that the player may not have kicked a goal from the free or the ball may have bounced into the post. The correct decision is black and white. This instance is closer to the Sirengate debarcle than just a goal not awarded for a free which wasn't there. Hell the AFL even brought in the video review system to make sure their goal umpiring decisions are correct.
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AGREE 100%. I was thinking sirengate last night. If th umpire signaled it was touched then its no point. The only way it could have been a point is if it hit the post. While I am gutted we didn't get the 4points I reckon we should be asking for a please explain and chasing the two points. I just can't believe there isn't more discussion about this.

Edit: note to self finish reading thread before responding. At least I know the specifics of the rule now. Bugger.
 
HeadandShin said:
AGREE 100%. I was thinking sirengate last night. If th umpire signaled it was touched then its no point. The only way it could have been a point is if it hit the post. While I am gutted we didn't get the 4points I reckon we should be asking for a please explain and chasing the two points. I just can't believe there isn't more discussion about this.

Edit: note to self finish reading thread before responding. At least I know the specifics of the rule now. Bugger.
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It was a point because the Fremantle player walked it over afterwards.
 
Conca Truck said:
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Umpiring was terrible last night. How could they not call this out on the full?
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This was the point in the game where it showed we werent a chance with the umpires. The only reasoning i can see is that the boundary umpire thought he had his head in line with the line...but thats really clutching on my part.
 

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rickyp said:
It was a point because the Fremantle player walked it over afterwards.
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thx but this was in reference to the point after the 3/4 time siren which has been clarified. not the umpire getting in the way incident, in the 4th.
 
I posted a similar one here a few years back from Perth. It was an Eagles vs. Melbourne game and the umpire was about the same distance from the play where the Eagles player marked it at least 1m out of bounds but let him play on. Unbelievable.

I know there's some complete spuds umpiring here in the Vic games, but the numpties they put on the ground over there make Basil Zempilas look like f**king Einstein.
 
Now SEN is giving the umpires lots of excuses. it evens out so its alright that we get an iffy free in the first half so we dont deserve a free in the last even though its there.
 
and just because its a close game now means that the players are under pressure and can walk the ball over the goal line
 
Freo gave us a head start and still managed to catch us...
We crack under pressure..whether its soft players...poor coaching...poor decision making...with enough pressure we crack...
I wonder if it's common knowledge in AFL Land...
 
JAKLAUGHING said:
Freo gave us a head start and still managed to catch us...
We crack under pressure..whether its soft players...poor coaching...poor decision making...with enough pressure we crack...
I wonder if it's common knowledge in AFL Land...
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You jest right? Sarcasm emoticon failed to post?
Ross Lyon has known it for years.... :cool:
 
How about this for an idea..... **** the goal umpires right off the field altogether and use some form of technology (laser beam system, gps in the footy or some such shit) to adjudicate on goals. Would never happen (eg. what if system ****s up), but just putting it out there.
 

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Gee Dimma looked like he could have ripped someones head off in the pressa. He certainly didn't hold back (Jeep). I think it might have been deliberate in another thread that asked for someone to stand up and call it regardless of the fine, looks like someone heard ya Deliberate
 
Leper said:
How about this for an idea..... **** the goal umpires right off the field altogether and use some form of technology (laser beam system, gps in the footy or some such shit) to adjudicate on goals. Would never happen (eg. what if system ****s up), but just putting it out there.
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Think I saw saw something a few months back looking at GPS in balls I think Leper, so may not be as far out as ya think.
 
Surprise Surprise the one W.A. umpire umpiring last night was the one who along with the goal umpire did not call for the Review.If it was it very well may have been a goal as it hit the umpire on the leg which was behind the line then came back into play.It is undefendable not to call for the review that is what the system is there for.But you just watch the Giesch & AFL defend this terrible decision.
 
Bojangles17 said:
I generally hate to raise it but, sheesh, what did we need to do for a free
How was kingys trip being overlooked, jack being mauled without the ball or that holding the ball that wasn't paid in the last. Seemed to me the pies got every infringement paid whereas we got nothing. Back to the bush for those nuffies.
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The umpires at that shithole of a ground are clearly influenced by the crowd. No doubt about it.
 
Dusty Cotch said:
Surprise Surprise the one W.A. umpire umpiring last night was the one who along with the goal umpire did not call for the Review.If it was it very well may have been a goal as it hit the umpire on the leg which was behind the line then came back into play.It is undefendable not to call for the review that is what the system is there for.But you just watch the Giesch & AFL defend this terrible decision.
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To be honest, I reckon a review would have come back as inconclusive as they could have argued that the ball may have been going on to hit the post.

The real problem here is goal umpire positioning. I'm sure it's how they're instructed to do it, but why the hell do umpires place themselves in the field of play when the ball is in the vicinity?! The exact same situation occurred last week in the Melb v GWS game where the ball rolled between the legs of everyone's favourite goal umpire, Chelsea Roffey (ball deep you could say), as she stood against the goal post, was palmed back by a Melbourne player and a goal kicked. That one was at least reviewed but surprise, surprise, they got it wrong and disallowed the goal (the game was in the balance at that stage). Surely after that incident last week, they would have reviewed umpire positioning. Taking a step back and remaining in line with the football but BEHIND the goal line would be the obvious solution but hey, what the hell would I know. Mistakes happen but the same mistake happening in consecutive weeks is an embarrassment for the umpiring dept.
 
KB is 99.9% percent sure the the ball would have hit the post when it hit the goal umpire.
He said "Anyone looking at the replay could clearly say that it would have hit the post"

Watch the slo-mo 10 seconds in. The ball hit the umps leg on his right side, he was leaning back and teh ball was going to be vertical as it passed the post

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2013-04-27/tigers-denied-watch-the-incident

Well I'm 99.9% sure that KB is an old fool who's wrong and lost his marbles.
Wish he'd just shut up and retire.
 

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So even Lyon said it crossed the line for a goal and bounced back. I know there are many ways we could have won that game but the non score review could have cheated us out of a win. Also, this was arguably an 8 point game seeing as it was Freo. Jeez i hope this gets looked into.
 
So it got looked into. Declared umpire was wrong and should have reviewed it. Good. But, what the **** do we get out of it???? It cost us 4 ****ing points which would be the difference between us making and not making finals. Cheers AFL. Screw us over again
 
Conca Truck said:
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Umpiring was terrible last night. How could they not call this out on the full?
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That was a terrible non-decision. Even in real time you could see the ball was out at least half a metre.

The goal umpire incident wasn't really that bad though, the ball was most likely going to hit the post anyway.
 

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