Society/Culture Terror attack in London

[medusala]

outside parliament.

http://news.sky.com/story/live-westminster-in-lockdown-10810697

 

[SBYM]

Looks like he has run down people on Westminster Bridge, run into New Palace Yard, stabbed a policeman, and been shot.

 

[SBYM]

Watching the BBC...looks like at least a dozen injured on the bridge.

Edit; maybe a few less than that.

 

[Malifice]

Any news on the perpetrator and cause?

Bit of a mixed bag over there with a prominent ex IRA leader dying, Brexit and Islamic terrorism. Without jumping to conclusions the latter is the most likely IMO.

Has been confirmed it was terrorism and not just some bourke street nutter thing?

 

[SBYM]

Any news on the perpetrator and cause?

Bit of a mixed bag over there with a prominent ex IRA leader dying, Brexit and Islamic terrorism. Without jumping to conclusions the latter is the most likely IMO.

Has been confirmed it was terrorism and not just some bourke street nutter thing?

Nada so far...other than the BBC saying the assailant shot dead, according to the Speaker of the House that is...

 

[medusala]

Has been confirmed it was terrorism and not just some bourke street nutter thing?

online reports of middle aged Asian man involved, cant tell if car driver is same as bloke with knife. Assume so but not certain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/

Police treat attack as 'terrorist incident'
Scotland Yard said the attack in Westminster was being treated "as a terrorist incident until we know otherwis

 

[medusala]

Nada so far...other than the BBC saying the assailant shot dead.

BBC generally loathe to describe perps. Daily Heil far less so.

 

[SBYM]

Bloody hell...looks like the car ran the whole bridge on the footpath. One of the victims is on the other side of the Thames.

 

[Malifice]

Sounds like the Met are treating it as a politically motivated terror attack and not just some random nutter.

 

[Malifice]

BBC generally loathe to describe perps. Daily Heil far less so.

To right wing even for you? The Express more your cup of tea?

 

[Lethality]

Without jumping to conclusions the latter is the most likely IMO.

That's what ISIS want you to say. You're playing into their hands.

 

[Malifice]

That's what ISIS want you to say. You're playing into their hands.

Cut it out. I have never claimed Islamic terrorism is not thing, or that radicalisation is not a very real issue. Stop being a dick.

 

[Lethality]

Cut it out. I have never claimed Islamic terrorism is not thing, or that radicalisation is not a very real issue. Stop being a dick.

No, you're just being an Islamophobe, which is what ISIS want. Stop playing into their hands by speculating about Islam being involved and therefore setting up a war between the West and Islam which does not exist.

 

[Smeg Head]

Cut it out. I have never claimed Islamic terrorism is not thing, or that radicalisation is not a very real issue. Stop being a dick.

Maybe don't jump through the rings he holds up for you?

 

[Malifice]

No, you're just being an Islamophobe, which is what ISIS want. Stop playing into their hands by speculating about Islam being involved and therefore setting up a war between the West and Islam which does not exist.

See ya.

 

[Malifice]

I don't get London police.

They make them wear shirts and ties, give them completely impractical helmets, and then don't arm them.

 

[SBYM]

Huge question is how the * he got into New Palace Yard...

 

[Smeg Head]

I don't get London police.

They make them wear shirts and ties, give them completely impractical helmets, and then don't arm them.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19641398

I daresay a lot of it is 'tradition' with the London Met being one of the oldest established police forces.

 

[medusala]

I don't get London police.

They make them wear shirts and ties, give them completely impractical helmets, and then don't arm them.

I lived with a cop for a while over here. Most dont want guns. Goes back to old school understanding between them and crims ie you dont shoot us, we wont shoot you. Yardies first mob to really test that but they seem far less of an issue now. Look at Melbourne and walsh street etc, maybe they had a point.

I think the number of police able to carry weapons has risen quite a bit in recent years.

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To right wing even for you?.

Just a mirror to the BBC. They dont leave any doubt about where they stand

 

[Smeg Head]

I lived with a cop for a while over here. Most dont want guns. Goes back to old school understanding between them and crims ie you dont shoot us, we wont shoot you. Yardies first mob to really test that but they seem far less of an issue now. Look at Melbourne and walsh street etc, maybe they had a point.

I think the number of police able to carry weapons has risen quite a bit in recent years.

Just scanning through what I linked about.

"A great deal of what we take as normal about policing was set out in the early 19th Century," he says.

"When Robert Peel formed the Metropolitan Police there was a very strong fear of the military - the masses feared the new force would be oppressive."

A force that did not routinely carry firearms - and wore blue rather than red, which was associated with the infantry - was part of this effort to distinguish the early "Peelers" from the Army, Waddington says.

5% it seems are trained and authorised from that too.

 

[WA ROO]

I don't get London police.

They make them wear shirts and ties, give them completely impractical helmets, and then don't arm them.

Firearms are effectively banned in the UK
So police don't need them

 

[SBYM]

Small mercy I guess...I can't believe how few people appear to have been hit by the car.

The parliament side of Westminster bridge, right where the car hit the fence, is always teeming with people...

 

[Malifice]

Firearms are effectively banned in the UK
So police don't need them

Yeah it weirded me out when I was there for that Woolwich attack. There were two police officers present but they couldn't do anything because the perpetrators had a handgun. Took the armed police officers about half an hour to get there, which is arguably a pretty good timeframe considering London traffic.

Luckily in this case the cops had guns. Sounds like the perpetrator charge them with a knife.

 

[SBYM]

One person who was hit on the bridge has been confirmed dead.

 

[Malifice]

One hit on the bridge confirmed dead.

campaigners. These car attacks are getting all to common these days.