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Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
Two prelims and consecutive finals everything you say means nothing because the facts are there. You can try discredit him for one coaching decison in a prelim but thats just stupid when you consider how many coaching decisions may have got us to the prelim. Love how you try to somehow attribute our current situation to him its just comical. He left in 2002? What year in the future will Terry Wallace cease being responsible for the bulldogs shortcomings?

Lets all blame Terry Wallace for our current list and free Rodney Eade of any responsibility. What a joke.
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Yeah, who are we to argue with a man who brought us Nathan Eagleton, Trent Bartlett and traded away Leon Cameron and Brett Montgomery.

Greatest thinker in football that man.
 
memberforever said:
I could have coached the dogs with Grant in brownlow form, Johnno and Smith at their peak, West at Peak, Darcy. Wynd, Croft, Hudson etc etc. Terry took over a team with ready made players . Yes he did a good job but didn't get us a premiership. His problem was he had a plan A, and if that didn't work, there was no plan B.
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The bloody team was second last on the ladder when he took over.

Problem at Richmond has been he was not brutal enough cleansing their list of inherent problems such as Richo when he got their.

Like us Richmond has developed an unhealthy passive to the extent of being borderline submissive culture.
 

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Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
Two prelims and consecutive finals everything you say means nothing because the facts are there. You can try discredit him for one coaching decison in a prelim but thats just stupid when you consider how many coaching decisions may have got us to the prelim. Love how you try to somehow attribute our current situation to him its just comical. He left in 2002? What year in the future will Terry Wallace cease being responsible for the bulldogs shortcomings?

Lets all blame Terry Wallace for our current list and free Rodney Eade of any responsibility. What a joke.
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He is not responsible for our shortcomings this year.

He was however responsible for our shortcomings in the early 2000's.

The guy was pretty much a 1 season wonder as a coach and I absolutely loved him when he was here but to suggest that he is still a good coach is absurd.
 
acker said:
The bloody team was second last on the ladder when he took over.

Problem at Richmond has been he was not brutal enough cleansing their list of inherent problems such as Richo when he got their.

Like us Richmond has developed an unhealthy passive to the extent of being borderline submissive culture.
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Where was that team by the time he finished? And the year after?

Problem at Richmond is they have a coach who big upped himself but fell well short of doing anything of significance.

Now he is blaming the players. He will be out of there fairly soon.....Most likely because he believes he has taken this group as far as he can.
 
Borgsta said:
How did this thread become about Eade?
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Because Mr1954 mentioned him in this thread as he never has anything positive to say about him.
Please donot mention Wallace and Eade in the same breath.Give me Eade everytime over Terry "ego" Wallace.
 
camstars said:
Because Mr1954 mentioned him in this thread as he never has anything positive to say about him.
Please donot mention Wallace and Eade in the same breath.Give me Eade everytime over Terry "ego" Wallace.
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You can happily have Mr excuses and your single memory of the first week of september. I'll be remembering consecutive finals appearances and prelims. The fact that in mid 1996 the club was on the verge of shutting up shop until a certain bloke took the reigns and restored dignity. Just think how much better we would have been in 1997 and 1998 if we had the increased funding the football department now has. Dont let proven results get in the way of your love for Mr excuses.
 
Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
You can happily have Mr excuses and your single memory of the first week of september. I'll be remembering consecutive finals appearances and prelims. The fact that in mid 1996 the club was on the verge of shutting up shop until a certain bloke took the reigns and restored dignity. Just think how much better we would have been in 1997 and 1998 if we had the increased funding the football department now has. Dont let proven results get in the way of your love for Mr excuses.
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And didn't we just keep going strong after 98:rolleyes:

I can't see Eade leaving us if he was offered big bucks at another club (and don't say he wouldn't be offered as it is a hypothetical).
 

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Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
You can happily have Mr excuses and your single memory of the first week of september. I'll be remembering consecutive finals appearances and prelims. The fact that in mid 1996 the club was on the verge of shutting up shop until a certain bloke took the reigns and restored dignity. Just think how much better we would have been in 1997 and 1998 if we had the increased funding the football department now has. Dont let proven results get in the way of your love for Mr excuses.
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It's not about love for Eade.I will critisies him when needed but not having a pot shot every possible time you can.Don't forget he also coached the swans to regular finals and a grand final.Don't worry I am watching him closely cause he will probably be gone if we have another bad year.I hope for the club's sake and ours he does a great job because that will mean we are probably playing finals.Atleast he is trying some different thinds to change our forward line around.I may not agree with some of them but let's see.
 
hujsh said:
And didn't we just keep going strong after 98:rolleyes:

I can't see Eade leaving us if he was offered big bucks at another club (and don't say he wouldn't be offered as it is a hypothetical).
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And isn't he showing at Richmond how he struggles to build a team from scratch.When in 97 & 98 most of the players were already at the club and then he tried to rebuild with short people after that and failed.And let's face it anyone could have done a better job than Joyce.
 
Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
Two prelims and consecutive finals everything you say means nothing because the facts are there. You can try discredit him for one coaching decison in a prelim but thats just stupid when you consider how many coaching decisions may have got us to the prelim. Love how you try to somehow attribute our current situation to him its just comical. He left in 2002? What year in the future will Terry Wallace cease being responsible for the bulldogs shortcomings?

Lets all blame Terry Wallace for our current list and free Rodney Eade of any responsibility. What a joke.
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I have just worked it out.You are either the real Terry Wallace self promoting again or you are his long lost love child.
 
Remeber in 06 how he talked the Dogs up in the paper going
"he's good...oh i drafted him. And so is he...oh i drafted him as well. Well look how good i am. Love me. Don't be shy in thanking my loyal dogs supporters. I'll take a 15 year contract once it has been printed Richmond"

Doesn't hurt the "self promoter" theory
 
Borgsta said:
Where was that team by the time he finished? And the year after?

Problem at Richmond is they have a coach who big upped himself but fell well short of doing anything of significance.

Now he is blaming the players. He will be out of there fairly soon.....Most likely because he believes he has taken this group as far as he can.
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1996 15th with a percentage of 77.3 Joyce
2002 12th with a percentage of 103.9 Wallace
2003 Last with a percentage of 74.7 Rohde
2007 13th with a percentage of 85.5 Eade
 

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Nineteen_Fifty_Four said:
You can happily have Mr excuses and your single memory of the first week of september. I'll be remembering consecutive finals appearances and prelims. The fact that in mid 1996 the club was on the verge of shutting up shop until a certain bloke took the reigns and restored dignity. Just think how much better we would have been in 1997 and 1998 if we had the increased funding the football department now has. Dont let proven results get in the way of your love for Mr excuses.
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We made preliminary finals both years which was great, but can you really tell me that a few extra dollars allocated to the football department would have stopped Darren Jarman et al in 97 (as well as keeping a goal umpire honest), and turned around an eleven goal defecit in 98?

Wallace did some things really well as a coach, but in some cases he was slow to react and often showed too much faith in his own tactics and players with limitations. He had every right to want to change clubs and chase more money. He was kidding himself though if he thought players, supporters and the bulldogs board were going to give him a fairwell game and accept the way he went about it.
 
jeemak said:
We made preliminary finals both years which was great, but can you really tell me that a few extra dollars allocated to the football department would have stopped Darren Jarman et al in 97 (as well as keeping a goal umpire honest), and turned around an eleven goal defecit in 98?

Wallace did some things really well as a coach, but in some cases he was slow to react and often showed too much faith in his own tactics and players with limitations. He had every right to want to change clubs and chase more money. He was kidding himself though if he thought players, supporters and the bulldogs board were going to give him a fairwell game and accept the way he went about it.
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I still strongly believe he should have been given a farewell match. I think it would have been a dignified way to thank him for his contribution to the club not only as a coach but as a player. I think the way the club went about it was petty and wrong. I know plenty will disagree with me but just think for one minute what I have to say. What if he coached that last game and said goodbye and that era at the club ended in a positive respectful way. Maybe then we could have looked forward and drawn a clear slate and begun a new positive era. Maybe then we wouldnt be sitting here 6 years later with people still pointing fingers and playing the blame game and concentrating so much of their energy on how they were apparently dudded and down trodden. Seriously its time to move on yet we're still in the blame game quagmire , its any wonder we're still a rabble like 03.
 
acker said:
1996 15th with a percentage of 77.3 Joyce
2002 12th with a percentage of 103.9 Wallace
2003 Last with a percentage of 74.7 Rohde
2007 13th with a percentage of 85.5 Eade
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Pretty obvious Wallace was a great first year coach who took us backwards with every subsequent year.

1997-3rd, percentage-101.8
1998-2nd, percentage-116.5 (got pumped by the same team we should have beaten the year before)
1999-4th, percentage-118.6
2000-7th, percentage-103.6
2001-10th, percentage-93.8
2002-13th, percentage-103.9

The fact is he ran away when he realized the mess he created. Peter Rhode was horrible but I doubt Leigh Matthews could have done much better with our list.
 

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