Thank you Hayden Kennedy for ruining a perfectly close game!

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Did anybody see that decision by him in the last quarter. It was an absolute shocker. In the end, it cost Collingwood a close game that they could of won because they were only a goal behind.

It should have been a free kick to the Collingwood player for a push in the pack and too high, and he paid shepherding in the marking contest! What an absolute joke!

Decisions like that dishearten the whole team and football supporters alike.

I've got to say the North vs Collingwood game has had the worst umpiring so far.

Bob

P.S. I found a great website for conitinuing this topic and other umpiring topics.
http://footyumpiring.cjb.net/forum

Wish I thought of it.

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I was gunning for Collingwood to win and I saw that crap decision, but I don't think it cost them the game. When your team is a couple of goals behind with about ten minutes to go you need a proper lift, not just a fair umpiring decision. Much as I hate to say it, that man Carey did the damage. He stepped up when it was needed.

I was very impressed with the Woods, and I reckon you'll beat my boys in Round One. But you'll have to blame more than Mr Kennedy for that loss.
 

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Originally posted by RogerC:
I was gunning for Collingwood to win and I saw that crap decision, but I don't think it cost them the game. When your team is a couple of goals behind with about ten minutes to go you need a proper lift, not just a fair umpiring decision. Much as I hate to say it, that man Carey did the damage. He stepped up when it was needed.

I was very impressed with the Woods, and I reckon you'll beat my boys in Round One. But you'll have to blame more than Mr Kennedy for that loss.
I did say that Collingwood could of won. I was getting more on the point that decisions like that really deject a side for the remainder of the match. It was a real turning point in the match, though, because Collingwood looked like they could overrun them.

Bob


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I agree, Roger. The decision probably didn't cost us the game ... but it sure killed the contest.

They say comedy is all about timing ... and that clown really timed it to perfection, didn't he?

And to make such a decision right in front of the Collingwood Cheer Squad suggests that this guy should consider making a career in theatre when the arse falls out of his umpiring career. He certainly knows how to work the crowd!!! I just about gave myself a hernia abusing the bastard.


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Originally posted by AlfAndrews:
They say comedy is all about timing ... and that clown really timed it to perfection, didn't he?

And to make such a decision right in front of the Collingwood Cheer Squad suggests that this guy should consider making a career in theatre when the arse falls out of his umpiring career. He certainly knows how to work the crowd!!! I just about gave myself a hernia abusing the bastard.
And how late was the decision? Collingwood had already cleared the ball when, 5 seconds later, he decides to pay it. One's imagination can run wild in 5 seconds. Obviously he conjured up something that wasn't there.

Bob

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Was that close to the worst umpiring decision of all time?? I thought it was shocking, a display of umpiring ineptness the likes of which I have never seen, though I've led a relative short life. What's the worst decision everyone has seen by those white maggots??
 

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Yep, yep. If it had been against Hawthorn I would have given the umpire total shit. You're right. Crap decision, crap timing. There's a powerful argument in there somewhere for putting the goddam whistle away when the game is in the balance. I've long believed that the game is over umpired, and that gives fuel to the fire.

I didn't mean to offend Collingwood fans. My mind just went back to all the times I blamed umps for a Hawthorn defeat. In the end, good teams rise above bad decisions.

Actually, now we're on the topic, who do you think is the worst umpire in the league? My vote is for Gavin Dore.

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It doesn't surprise me at all - Kennedy and Goldspink - the 2 worst of them all......

And bloody Kennedy - a QLDer to boot - seems to have a chip on his shoulder about that - think you will find that he he 'favours' Vic based teams rather than appear 'biased'. He seems to have a fear of interstate teams......

Now I know that wasn't the case tonight.....just my general observations over time.
 

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Originally posted by RogerC:

Actually, now we're on the topic, who do you think is the worst umpire in the league? My vote is for Gavin Dore.
Umpire Hitlist:

1. Gavin Dore
2. Darren Goldspink
3. John Harvey
4. Stephen McBurney

But we should recognise good umpires too. Al would say:

1. Ramon Kelsey
2. Mark Nash
3. Chris Mitchell

Although, I could eat my words many times during the season!

Bob
 

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Originally posted by RogerC:
Actually, now we're on the topic, who do you think is the worst umpire in the league? My vote is for Gavin Dore.

Cheers.
There are a couple of real dickhead umpires out there. Gavin Dore is bad but slightly bearable.Goldspink is near the worst in the league, john harvey is a wanker, scott mclaren the accountant ****** looking poof is the second worst umpire in the league. But the worst has to be Humprhey Smith...he is a shocker.

BUT, the worst umpire EVER is by far and away Richard Williams. A South Australian umpire who got dropped two years back. Port (whether it be Magpies or Power) always seem to get him. If it was just that he is a bad umpire, i could live with it. BUT, he has publicly stated, on radio and in paper, that he is a absolute port hater. He is a ardent Norwood Supporter and cannot stand port. he has SAID this. He should NOT umpire port games. He has cost us games in teh past. 1998 against West Coast, im surprised he got out of football park alive, if only i knew where the umpires came out when they leave!! He cost us that game...he has blantantly umpired unfairly in games involving port. 1995 grand final, he made some baffling decisions. He nearly cost us the 1998 grand final...in fact stephen williams said after the game that he thought the umpiring was shithouse, the only reason sturt stayed in that game for so long.

You cant get any worse than richard ****ing williams
 

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You obviously didn't see the match, since you live in the USA.

If you bothered to read the posts properly, the main complaint is that one important sh*thouse decision turned a close game. Nothing to do with Collingwood losing the game. I still would have posted something similar if Collingwood did end up winning the game.

Bob
 

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Howdy Hawkeye2001. Thanks for your support. I've had a good look at Collingwood and Hawthorn and so far my opinion is that Collingwood will start the season better than we will. We'll end it better. I don't know why, but it takes our guys a while to gel. Call me a weak supporter if you like, but I'd much rather see us winning at the other end of the season. Take your $10 000 to Centrebet. I had enough grief in round 1 last year.

I hope you're right, though. After seeing joffa carry on like a goose the past couple of weeks I wouldn't go making any rash predictions about my side.

Anyway...

The worst umpire I've ever seen isn't around any more. His name was Craig Durham, and I would defy anyone to interpret his decisions. He went beyond biased to some bizarre twilight zone. Only he knew the frees he was giving.
 

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Hayden Kennedy is my personal least favourite - the bloke must know me by now, I give it to him every time he umpires a Hawthorn game. Even in the intra-club match at Pie Park earlier in the year he managed to crucify both sides!

But on the whole, John Harvey takes the cake for one simple reason - at the Hawthorn/Freo game at Coronial last year, Johnny boy made a series of "interesting" decisions, so much so that the entire crowd of around 15,000 were moved to suggest in unison that Mr Harvey was an exponent of the ancient art of auto-eroticism.

Still the only time I've heard an umpire the subject of a crowd chant - he must have been awful that night.

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Yes, It was a pathetic decision. Just as pathetic as the free to A Rocca against McKernan in the middle and the subsequent 50 metres that gave him the goal.

Those umps spent the whole night stuffing it up. Bad decisions against one side was quickly followed by a bad decision against the other side as a make up.
 

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Originally posted by Bob_vic:
And how late was the decision? Collingwood had already cleared the ball when, 5 seconds later, he decides to pay it. One's imagination can run wild in 5 seconds. Obviously he conjured up something that wasn't there.
I saw bit and pieces of the match on the idiot box, and would like to expand on Bob Vic's point here.

Many times, I was watching the play, and here is the timeline :
a) I may or may not have seen something freekickable
b) about 2 seconds pass
c) heard the commentators state that a free has been paid.
d) the play stops, players look up.
e) about 3 seconds pass
f) the umpire arrives on the screen, and signals a free kick.

I think I glanced over an article recently, stating that the scumpires were positioning themselves differently this year. Are they now too far out of the action to be able to see what's going on? Does it tempt them to make assumptions?

I wasn't too impressed with the umpiring during what I saw of that match. Other than that, it was a pretty good, exciting game. Both teams did their level best to turn it on for the crowd. Shame about some of the decision-making.

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Originally posted by AlfAndrews:
I agree, Roger.
And to make such a decision right in front of the Collingwood Cheer Squad suggests....

Can't have that can we , umpire making a decision against Collingwood in front of the cheer squad. What is footy coming to, not like the old days at Vic park where you got every crowd kick there was.

I actually had a look at the replay of that freekick last night and if you had bothered to look carefully,(you would not have seen this from behind the fence) you can see that the Collingwood players eyes and intent were not for the ball.

His primary focus was to shepherd Sinclair out of the contest (before the ball was within 5 metres) it was this action (against the rules of the game, whether you or I like it or not) that the free kick was payed. The so called resultant kick for a push in the back (which was debatable)was a secondary free kick from the first.

The free kick was the correct decision. The questionable decisions were the ones against McKernan and Grant which cost North goals and the 50m against Stevens which cost a goal.

Collingwood 30 frees to Roos 23 had the umpires in there pockets all night.
 
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I know this will be hard for the Collingwood "intelligentsia" but try to look at it logically.
If you stand in front of your opponent in a marking contest, it is a good idea to put your hands in the air and at least make it look like you are trying to mark. If you don't do that, and worse, you put your arms out to the side, then you are going to be penalised for shepherding.
See, it's not that difficult is it ?
And of course, not getting a free kick in the last line of defence would clearly have cost you the game. It had nothing to do with the fact that you were totally inept.

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Two points, first, it was simply one of the most deplorabe decisions (to award the free in the goal square) ive ever seen.

2nd point, the free against[i/i] North for the ruck (hahaha,wawawa dont know if i should laugh or cry at the rules)
infringment plus the fifty meteres, merly for trying to contest[i/] the ball was just as bad.

Basically the whole night was marred by some god awful umpiring, which spoiled an otherwise good match.

Im dreading what there going to be like come round one of the real stuff/ups....

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Vozzo last night.What can I say. Bradley threw the ball with both hands upwards out .No free. Too many others to mention.
In todays Sunday Mail the reporter made a barbed comment about the Carlton goalkickers being Fevola and the Field umpires.
Says it all.
 
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