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The one solid positive.

The guy who supposedly isn’t fit enough to run out a game.
Isaiah Dudley worked up and back all night, and had 8 tackles
His tackling was excellent.
Meanwhile the ‘leaders’ couldn’t care less.
Brutal calls need to be made otherwise what’s the point?
Switkowski, Ryan, Cox need to be told to get it together otherwise dropped. At the very least, Switta must go.
McDonald should get a try ahead of Cox and Draper, who has been nothing but a lone giraffe unsure of where to be.
 
Not sure why but I opened up Kayo and decided to watch some of the clearances to see what was happening, thing that stood out the most apart form us losing them all was that the saints players where holding their freo opponent almost every time, like two hands around them or holding an arm etc.

I understand that when both players are holding they let it go but it was very one sided from what I could see, Freo players hunting ball, saints players hunting freo players first and the ball second. Do I not understand the rules? i..e If Brayshaw has a saints player hanging off one of his arms while he is trying to get the ball isnt that a free kick?

If its within the rules then why did we not do that back and flip the script? why are we playing the role of sheep and them the wolf? Very frustrating watching.
They needed to change to the same tactic. Leave your man and take out the guy hunting the Freo player going for the ball / run screens or stay man on man and hunt the player first. Voss needs to come in, and next time it starts happening just tell him to start smashing folks.
 
Won a few good intercept possessions but lost his direct opponent, guarded a lot of space, slowed the ball movement and as you say no leadership mongrel that was visible on telly - maybe Sumwun or someone that was at the game can comment on what he showed as a leader
I thought Pearce was one of our better performers on the night, but when the ball is constantly coming in like it was no backline is going to cope. No one showed any fightback other than Bolton late. Would have been good to see Ryan or Johnson throw their weight around a bit. They tried 3 different match ups on Hill, all 3 let him run loose. Dudley played well but is clearly not fit enough. As for Freddy, Switta, Narkle enough has been said about their defensive efforts.
 

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Yeah, BeinPurplenGreen, it's a little too complicated for you to understand.

You don't have the brain capacity for the ultra-complicated nuances. You need to be really, and I mean really really intelligent to be able to see it clearly.



Just in case King Huskii is reading this, the above is sarcasm.

Cool, while you are at it can you detail how a game plan that will win a grand final?

As you are a nuffie you clearly can't just like all the other big footy nuffies out there.
 
You really lack knowledge of the game. That's ok, nit everyone who watches the game can tell if a player played well or not.
Wait til he tells Bolton flew the flag and was good, despite that being one of his worst games of his career, while also saying Pearce was trash, despite clearly being our best player on the night. Truly remarkable
 
Wait til he tells Bolton flew the flag and was good, despite that being one of his worst games of his career, while also saying Pearce was trash, despite clearly being our best player on the night. Truly remarkable

Yeah mate Wigarus truly knows little about footy. It's hilarious that such a know it all who always bags out the club clearly thinks he knows best yet he is the definition of nuffie.
 
I agree his papers seem stamped, but he basically has to play this week given Youngs out for a stretch.

We got torched by Macrae, and outworked by Steele (cant run), Garcia (19), Boxshall (first game).
He should play but we both know it will be Banfield coming in. Unless the club do the right thing and sack JL.
 

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Are we not fit enough? The injury list has been a massive improvement since Merriman took over but is it at the cost running power to avoid soft tissue injuries?
 
At the risk of sounding like some truly irate, archaic old fart (an accurate enough description on occasion), I almost feel like it's time to start training our guys like soldiers instead of footy players.

By this, I'm not saying JLo needs to be a arseh*le drill sergeant worthy of some wartime Kubrick masterpiece.

But I am saying that maybe we're not sufficiently mentally training our guys to deal with both consistent overt aggression, and an openly hostile environment, and still operate efficiently at the same time.

By overt aggression I mean close checking and tight tackling by opposing players, and by hostile environment I mean getting consistently utterly fcuked judgement calls from the umpires.

The number of times I've seen our guys lapse into passivity, or worse, go into their shells in the face of relentless physical pressure from the opposition, is simply appalling.

I also keep seeing them repeatedly look crestfallen and shocked whenever the umps actively call an entire game in a biased fashion.

I really hate to say it of a team I love and support, but if you expect even a smidge of fairness from an AFL umpire, as a WA based team member playing against one of the VLF old guard in Melbourne, then you are literally crazy, and mentally unfit to play the game.

It doesn't matter if it's the twentieth bad call from an umpire, or the two hundredth, none of them should cause you to want to react badly or give up hope and just surrender.

Because seriously - that's the crowd's job isn't it?

It's their complete reason for being frankly... Whereas the umpires just do it as a hobby.

Speaking of being mentally unfit, I note the reason drill sergeants in armed forces the world over, are all utterly heartless bastards, is because they need to be.

Any soldier walking into combat expecting fairness, gentility, or anything less than a ceaseless torrid struggle for survival in a pervasive atmosphere of eternal hate death and brutality, really won't last very long.

So soldiers are therefore trained to perform in a hate-filled, aggressive, relentlessly oppressive mental atmosphere, in order to acclimatize these kids to survive sustained exposure to the ceaseless mental aggression of combat.

J-lon is not the right guy to supply a training atmosphere like this... It's simply not in him. This is not a failing on his part, not a criticism of the guy, or of the club.
J-lo is a teacher, a healer, and a constructive criticism styled coach. These are all necessary characteristics of an AFL coach and I respect him for it.

My question therefore is, who IS playing the ball breaker coaching role at Fremantle?

Who IS mentally preparing our guys to remain cool, composed and un-intimidated while operating in a relentlessly hostile environment, via a process of deliberate, repeated exposure therapy?

Josh carr could have played this role when he was still at Fremantle ... He had the right mindset. Justin, for all his strengths and abilities, simply does not.

Am I going to far here?


Nope... I don't think k so.

The biggest single difference between playing in Victoria, and playing in Perth, is the attitude of the crowd towards our guys.

In Perth our team are loved and supported, and operate in an overall supportive and positive mental atmosphere.

Playing in Melbourne, not so much.

By my logic, J-lo is the perfect guy to train our guys to win in Perth. His mindset matches the overall mental environment the fans create (ie: generally focused on encouragement).

By the same logic, J-lo is the worst guy to train our guys for playing in Melbourne, were everybody hates them, laughs at every mistake, and constantly screams at the umpires at the top of their voice to treat them unfairly at every opportunity,, while also shouting at our team at the top of their voices, telling them they are all rubbish, and they all need to immediately drop dead.

And, they are. So they do.

This parallel is not an accident, nor confined to actual warfare.

Ross once said, "you train and practice as you intend to play".

Or in other words, you can only ever recreate on the field, what you practice and perfect at training. (Oh wait, Ross said that too).

So tell me training watchers: what's the dialogue and atmosphere like at Fremantle training sessions?

Does it closely mimic the aggressive hostile environment found when playing in Melbourne?

Do the umpires show the same consistent anti freo bias in training our guys get on an AFL field?

Are they also exposed to constant relentless, blood curdling abuse from the sidelines, from 80,000 demented fans bent on bloody murder of anyone wearing purple

...No?

Okay then.

...I gotta admit, I wouldn't want to train in that environment either .. it's as hostile and abusive workplace as it gets.

Who the hell wants to be in a workplace like that? (Apart from actual AFL players that is?)

My question therefore becomes, when and how DOES Freo take the necessary steps, to mentally prepare our guys for the hate, venom, and relentless negativity they're exposed to on game day?

Cause I honestly can't tell.

And who at Freo IS charged with being the uncompromising hard arse who is more fierce and fearsome than the entire magpie army?

Because again, I can't tell.... And it can't be J-lo.

If our guys can't handle the mental pressure of game say in Melbourne, it's because nobody is teaching them how to.

I don't doubt J-lo is a great coach. Truly I don't.

I also don't doubt that the players love him, and vice versa... The mutual respect they have for each other is obvious.

Problem is however, love isn't hate.

Our guys play well where they are loved, and poorly where they are hated. And for one game out if every two, they are hated.

Love is also a bad motivator in battle apparently.

Because if that last game is how the players perform our of their love for J-lo, then relying on that love alone as a motivator for their behaviour mid-game, is probably a pretty bad idea.

They may love the guy, but clearly they won't die for him,

... nor will they kill the other team to protect his career.

Does Freo simply lack a killer Instinct?

Maybe they do... But that's not j-lo's fault... The man simply isn't a killer.

What they need is someone else to fill in that gap. They need a killer to put them down, and a teacher to pick them up.

I so wish this kind of attitude weren't necessary. Truly I don't.

I so wish there was another way to train our guys to fight, and survive in such a hostile environment rather than us brutalising them ourselves.

Maybe Instead we could convince Melbourne crowds to simply be nicer to them?

And maybe even be a little less selfish In their judgement calls about umpiring decisions?

You know... Convince Melbourne based AFL fans to just be more considerate l, caring, and compassionate to other teams.


Siiughhh.....


...yeah, I know...

I did actually notice it wasn't currently snowing people.

I did actually notice that we're all still currently stuck in every Freo supporters version of a personal recurrent hell.

And I did notice there's a complete absence of snowballs about right now

I guess that basically sums up.our chances doesn't it...

...At least till someone at Freo starts to think like a heartless bastard drill sergeant, that is.


(I'm sure you get my point.)





(Huh... Fancy that!

There really is a small private recurrent version of hell, reserved solely for Freo supporters.

And I'm bloody well stuck in it again.


...I thought I recognized this place!...

And I thought all you poor bastards stuck here beside me looked familiar....)




(😩😩😩😩 .....Chriiiiiissssttt!! )
 
At the risk of sounding like some truly irate, archaic old fart (an accurate enough description on occasion), I almost feel like it's time to start training our guys like soldiers instead of footy players.

By this, I'm not saying JLo needs to be a arseh*le drill sergeant worthy of some wartime Kubrick masterpiece.

But I am saying that maybe we're not sufficiently mentally training our guys to deal with both consistent overt aggression, and an openly hostile environment, and still operate efficiently at the same time.

By overt aggression I mean close checking and tight tackling by opposing players, and by hostile environment I mean getting consistently utterly fcuked judgement calls from the umpires.

The number of times I've seen our guys lapse into passivity, or worse, go into their shells in the face of relentless physical pressure from the opposition, is simply appalling.

I also keep seeing them repeatedly look crestfallen and shocked whenever the umps actively call an entire game in a biased fashion.

I really hate to say it of a team I love and support, but if you expect even a smidge of fairness from an AFL umpire, as a WA based team member playing against one of the VLF old guard in Melbourne, then you are literally crazy, and mentally unfit to play the game.

It doesn't matter if it's the twentieth bad call from an umpire, or the two hundredth, none of them should cause you to want to react badly or give up hope and just surrender.

Because seriously - that's the crowd's job isn't it?

It's their complete reason for being frankly... Whereas the umpires just do it as a hobby.

Speaking of being mentally unfit, I note the reason drill sergeants in armed forces the world over, are all utterly heartless bastards, is because they need to be.

Any soldier walking into combat expecting fairness, gentility, or anything less than a ceaseless torrid struggle for survival in a pervasive atmosphere of eternal hate death and brutality, really won't last very long.

So soldiers are therefore trained to perform in a hate-filled, aggressive, relentlessly oppressive mental atmosphere, in order to acclimatize these kids to survive sustained exposure to the ceaseless mental aggression of combat.

J-lon is not the right guy to supply a training atmosphere like this... It's simply not in him. This is not a failing on his part, not a criticism of the guy, or of the club.
J-lo is a teacher, a healer, and a constructive criticism styled coach. These are all necessary characteristics of an AFL coach and I respect him for it.

My question therefore is, who IS playing the ball breaker coaching role at Fremantle?

Who IS mentally preparing our guys to remain cool, composed and un-intimidated while operating in a relentlessly hostile environment, via a process of deliberate, repeated exposure therapy?

Josh carr could have played this role when he was still at Fremantle ... He had the right mindset. Justin, for all his strengths and abilities, simply does not.

Am I going to far here?


Nope... I don't think k so.

The biggest single difference between playing in Victoria, and playing in Perth, is the attitude of the crowd towards our guys.

In Perth our team are loved and supported, and operate in an overall supportive and positive mental atmosphere.

Playing in Melbourne, not so much.

By my logic, J-lo is the perfect guy to train our guys to win in Perth. His mindset matches the overall mental environment the fans create (ie: generally focused on encouragement).

By the same logic, J-lo is the worst guy to train our guys for playing in Melbourne, were everybody hates them, laughs at every mistake, and constantly screams at the umpires at the top of their voice to treat them unfairly at every opportunity,, while also shouting at our team at the top of their voices, telling them they are all rubbish, and they all need to immediately drop dead.

And, they are. So they do.

This parallel is not an accident, nor confined to actual warfare.

Ross once said, "you train and practice as you intend to play".

Or in other words, you can only ever recreate on the field, what you practice and perfect at training. (Oh wait, Ross said that too).

So tell me training watchers: what's the dialogue and atmosphere like at Fremantle training sessions?

Does it closely mimic the aggressive hostile environment found when playing in Melbourne?

Do the umpires show the same consistent anti freo bias in training our guys get on an AFL field?

Are they also exposed to constant relentless, blood curdling abuse from the sidelines, from 80,000 demented fans bent on bloody murder of anyone wearing purple

...No?

Okay then.

...I gotta admit, I wouldn't want to train in that environment either .. it's as hostile and abusive workplace as it gets.

Who the hell wants to be in a workplace like that? (Apart from actual AFL players that is?)

My question therefore becomes, when and how DOES Freo take the necessary steps, to mentally prepare our guys for the hate, venom, and relentless negativity they're exposed to on game day?

Cause I honestly can't tell.

And who at Freo IS charged with being the uncompromising hard arse who is more fierce and fearsome than the entire magpie army?

Because again, I can't tell.... And it can't be J-lo.

If our guys can't handle the mental pressure of game say in Melbourne, it's because nobody is teaching them how to.

I don't doubt J-lo is a great coach. Truly I don't.

I also don't doubt that the players love him, and vice versa... The mutual respect they have for each other is obvious.

Problem is however, love isn't hate.

Our guys play well where they are loved, and poorly where they are hated. And for one game out if every two, they are hated.

Love is also a bad motivator in battle apparently.

Because if that last game is how the players perform our of their love for J-lo, then relying on that love alone as a motivator for their behaviour mid-game, is probably a pretty bad idea.

They may love the guy, but clearly they won't die for him,

... nor will they kill the other team to protect his career.

Does Freo simply lack a killer Instinct?

Maybe they do... But that's not j-lo's fault... The man simply isn't a killer.

What they need is someone else to fill in that gap. They need a killer to put them down, and a teacher to pick them up.

I so wish this kind of attitude weren't necessary. Truly I don't.

I so wish there was another way to train our guys to fight, and survive in such a hostile environment rather than us brutalising them ourselves.

Maybe Instead we could convince Melbourne crowds to simply be nicer to them?

And maybe even be a little less selfish In their judgement calls about umpiring decisions?

You know... Convince Melbourne based AFL fans to just be more considerate l, caring, and compassionate to other teams.


Siiughhh.....


...yeah, I know...

I did actually notice it wasn't currently snowing people.

I did actually notice that we're all still currently stuck in every Freo supporters version of a personal recurrent hell.

And I did notice there's a complete absence of snowballs about right now

I guess that basically sums up.our chances doesn't it...

...At least till someone at Freo starts to think like a heartless bastard drill sergeant, that is.


(I'm sure you get my point.)





(Huh... Fancy that!

There really is a small private recurrent version of hell, reserved solely for Freo supporters.

And I'm bloody well stuck in it again.


...I thought I recognized this place!...

And I thought all you poor bastards stuck here beside me looked familiar....)




(😩😩😩😩 .....Chriiiiiissssttt!! )
A shorter version might have helped, but I do think there is an important question about balance in the coaching team and techniques to build mental strength and resilience.

Whatever you think of him or his coaching, Lyon's "any time, any where, no excuses" mantra certainly felt like it came alive and permeated the club.

I want to see a hard edge added to the talent we can all see, whether that's through a new head coach or better support.
 

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At the risk of sounding like some truly irate, archaic old fart (an accurate enough description on occasion), I almost feel like it's time to start training our guys like soldiers instead of footy players.

By this, I'm not saying JLo needs to be a arseh*le drill sergeant worthy of some wartime Kubrick masterpiece.

But I am saying that maybe we're not sufficiently mentally training our guys to deal with both consistent overt aggression, and an openly hostile environment, and still operate efficiently at the same time.

By overt aggression I mean close checking and tight tackling by opposing players, and by hostile environment I mean getting consistently utterly fcuked judgement calls from the umpires.

The number of times I've seen our guys lapse into passivity, or worse, go into their shells in the face of relentless physical pressure from the opposition, is simply appalling.

I also keep seeing them repeatedly look crestfallen and shocked whenever the umps actively call an entire game in a biased fashion.

I really hate to say it of a team I love and support, but if you expect even a smidge of fairness from an AFL umpire, as a WA based team member playing against one of the VLF old guard in Melbourne, then you are literally crazy, and mentally unfit to play the game.

It doesn't matter if it's the twentieth bad call from an umpire, or the two hundredth, none of them should cause you to want to react badly or give up hope and just surrender.

Because seriously - that's the crowd's job isn't it?

It's their complete reason for being frankly... Whereas the umpires just do it as a hobby.

Speaking of being mentally unfit, I note the reason drill sergeants in armed forces the world over, are all utterly heartless bastards, is because they need to be.

Any soldier walking into combat expecting fairness, gentility, or anything less than a ceaseless torrid struggle for survival in a pervasive atmosphere of eternal hate death and brutality, really won't last very long.

So soldiers are therefore trained to perform in a hate-filled, aggressive, relentlessly oppressive mental atmosphere, in order to acclimatize these kids to survive sustained exposure to the ceaseless mental aggression of combat.

J-lon is not the right guy to supply a training atmosphere like this... It's simply not in him. This is not a failing on his part, not a criticism of the guy, or of the club.
J-lo is a teacher, a healer, and a constructive criticism styled coach. These are all necessary characteristics of an AFL coach and I respect him for it.

My question therefore is, who IS playing the ball breaker coaching role at Fremantle?

Who IS mentally preparing our guys to remain cool, composed and un-intimidated while operating in a relentlessly hostile environment, via a process of deliberate, repeated exposure therapy?

Josh carr could have played this role when he was still at Fremantle ... He had the right mindset. Justin, for all his strengths and abilities, simply does not.

Am I going to far here?


Nope... I don't think k so.

The biggest single difference between playing in Victoria, and playing in Perth, is the attitude of the crowd towards our guys.

In Perth our team are loved and supported, and operate in an overall supportive and positive mental atmosphere.

Playing in Melbourne, not so much.

By my logic, J-lo is the perfect guy to train our guys to win in Perth. His mindset matches the overall mental environment the fans create (ie: generally focused on encouragement).

By the same logic, J-lo is the worst guy to train our guys for playing in Melbourne, were everybody hates them, laughs at every mistake, and constantly screams at the umpires at the top of their voice to treat them unfairly at every opportunity,, while also shouting at our team at the top of their voices, telling them they are all rubbish, and they all need to immediately drop dead.

And, they are. So they do.

This parallel is not an accident, nor confined to actual warfare.

Ross once said, "you train and practice as you intend to play".

Or in other words, you can only ever recreate on the field, what you practice and perfect at training. (Oh wait, Ross said that too).

So tell me training watchers: what's the dialogue and atmosphere like at Fremantle training sessions?

Does it closely mimic the aggressive hostile environment found when playing in Melbourne?

Do the umpires show the same consistent anti freo bias in training our guys get on an AFL field?

Are they also exposed to constant relentless, blood curdling abuse from the sidelines, from 80,000 demented fans bent on bloody murder of anyone wearing purple

...No?

Okay then.

...I gotta admit, I wouldn't want to train in that environment either .. it's as hostile and abusive workplace as it gets.

Who the hell wants to be in a workplace like that? (Apart from actual AFL players that is?)

My question therefore becomes, when and how DOES Freo take the necessary steps, to mentally prepare our guys for the hate, venom, and relentless negativity they're exposed to on game day?

Cause I honestly can't tell.

And who at Freo IS charged with being the uncompromising hard arse who is more fierce and fearsome than the entire magpie army?

Because again, I can't tell.... And it can't be J-lo.

If our guys can't handle the mental pressure of game say in Melbourne, it's because nobody is teaching them how to.

I don't doubt J-lo is a great coach. Truly I don't.

I also don't doubt that the players love him, and vice versa... The mutual respect they have for each other is obvious.

Problem is however, love isn't hate.

Our guys play well where they are loved, and poorly where they are hated. And for one game out if every two, they are hated.

Love is also a bad motivator in battle apparently.

Because if that last game is how the players perform our of their love for J-lo, then relying on that love alone as a motivator for their behaviour mid-game, is probably a pretty bad idea.

They may love the guy, but clearly they won't die for him,

... nor will they kill the other team to protect his career.

Does Freo simply lack a killer Instinct?

Maybe they do... But that's not j-lo's fault... The man simply isn't a killer.

What they need is someone else to fill in that gap. They need a killer to put them down, and a teacher to pick them up.

I so wish this kind of attitude weren't necessary. Truly I don't.

I so wish there was another way to train our guys to fight, and survive in such a hostile environment rather than us brutalising them ourselves.

Maybe Instead we could convince Melbourne crowds to simply be nicer to them?

And maybe even be a little less selfish In their judgement calls about umpiring decisions?

You know... Convince Melbourne based AFL fans to just be more considerate l, caring, and compassionate to other teams.


Siiughhh.....


...yeah, I know...

I did actually notice it wasn't currently snowing people.

I did actually notice that we're all still currently stuck in every Freo supporters version of a personal recurrent hell.

And I did notice there's a complete absence of snowballs about right now

I guess that basically sums up.our chances doesn't it...

...At least till someone at Freo starts to think like a heartless bastard drill sergeant, that is.


(I'm sure you get my point.)





(Huh... Fancy that!

There really is a small private recurrent version of hell, reserved solely for Freo supporters.

And I'm bloody well stuck in it again.


...I thought I recognized this place!...

And I thought all you poor bastards stuck here beside me looked familiar....)




(😩😩😩😩 .....Chriiiiiissssttt!! )
Thanks for your post. I agree with what you are saying. Whatever hope JLo had to make it as head coach depended on him pairing with another leader who had mongrel/killer/death or glory traits. Most likely that needed to be the team captain. Alex Pearce is not that guy.

Anyhow, that bird has flown. JLo has to fly away too. ASAP. I don't see any other way forward.
 
A shorter version might have helped, but I do think there is an important question about balance in the coaching team and techniques to build mental strength and resilience.

Whatever you think of him or his coaching, Lyon's "any time, any where, no excuses" mantra certainly felt like it came alive and permeated the club.

I want to see a hard edge added to the talent we can all see, whether that's through a new head coach or better support.
I copied and pasted it into ChatGPT and asked for a summary
 

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