That was heinous.

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
THe way things are looking we might not see Watts at all this year. Apparently he has OP.
Stiify, thats all I wanted to hear. Can the day get any worse, still only 1 1/2 hours to go....
 

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#27
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
This was the massive problem.

Truth is, we are not a side with good foot skills as a rule. The fact that it looked great today was a direct result of blokes having oodles of time whenever they had it. Your blokes just would not push to fill gaps or create pressure on the kicker.

McLeod was not just kept quite, he flat out refused to go with Rawlings when we had the footy.
Yeah, complete lack of accountability & desperation was our major problem today. When you are losing the clearances & the other team has a run-on, damn well man up to slow down the momentum!!

I'm really worried that Macca is continuing his (lack of) form of the 2nd half of last year. He seriously looks disinterested & is not earning his salary at the moment!
 

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#28
Originally posted by kirky
Stiify, thats all I wanted to hear. Can the day get any worse, still only 1 1/2 hours to go....
I have been hearing the OP bit for a while now but not from my usual source. However, he does have a niggling groin injury so one wouldn't be surprised if in fact he does have OP.

I hope like hell he comes good. He has the talent and the right attitude, lets hope injuries don't hinder him.
 

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#29
Originally posted by Tas
You should try calling someone at the MCC and see if one of the cleaners has found it. If it has any identifiable things on it they might be able to identify it.

If they wont send it up to you just let me know and I will go get it and mail it to you if they have found it.

thanks Tas.

I am going to ring them in the morning. I don't hold much hope though. I am devastated. That scarfe was everything to me. I'll buy another but it won't be the same - it won't have the premiership blood, sweat and tears. It also won't have my Stevo badges.

I am such a ****er for leaving it behind, but I was so furious with the way we played, I just wanted to get the hell out of there and on my way home.

k
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Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
thanks Tas.

I am going to ring them in the morning. I don't hold much hope though. I am devastated. That scarfe was everything to me. I'll buy another but it won't be the same - it won't have the premiership blood, sweat and tears. It also won't have my Stevo badges.

I am such a ****er for leaving it behind, but I was so furious with the way we played, I just wanted to get the hell out of there and on my way home.

k
xx
I know what you mean, I have had the same dagy scarf from the early 80s when it was soaked in tears watching us get humiliated week in, week out and saw the good times in the 90s. I'd feel terrible if I lost it.

If I can help get it home let me know, will do what I can to get it back to you. One should not be seperated from a special scarf. I doubt anyone would pick mine up, it has seen better days.
 
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#31
Originally posted by acg_204*
Can I just ask...why the hell was Welshy playing so far up the ground. He was getting his hands on the ball and competing with plenty of heart like usual and suddenly he's up around the defensive fifty. Then at the next centre bounce he's standing in the bloody centre square?! :confused:
I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe he wants to play in the midfield a bit :confused:

The Crows were bloody awful yesterday ... it was so frustrating with the amount of turnovers that resulted in goals and their kicking for goal was crappy. And I can't stand listening to those Victorian commentators on the radio either, although Victorian club supporters would say the same thing when they come over here and listen to it on 5AA, so I shouldn't complain.
 

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Weakest effort ive seen in ages. Terrible skills, no passion looked as if they just didnt care. Full credit to the roos, theyd showed us how its done.

IN <-- Hudson, Torney, Gallagher

OUT --> Biglands (suspension 2 weeks), Shirley (forever), Hentschel (needs time in SANFL for confidence)
 

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Hi ... first time poster on these forums.

I don't understand why burton is not secured as a prominent forward when he is clearly one of the better (not best) markers in this AFC's side. I am aware that he is Adelaide's fittest player but if a tagger is going to run him into the ground all over why not put him in the forward where he can exploit his fitness and marking ability a little better?

Like some have mentioned earlier ... when the ball hits the ground, there are never any of our guys to rove the ball. I think our accountability is our worst problem atm.
 

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Originally posted by CrowTwig
Hi ... first time poster on these forums.

I don't understand why burton is not secured as a prominent forward when he is clearly one of the better (not best) markers in this AFC's side. I am aware that he is Adelaide's fittest player but if a tagger is going to run him into the ground all over why not put him in the forward where he can exploit his fitness and marking ability a little better?

Like some have mentioned earlier ... when the ball hits the ground, there are never any of our guys to rove the ball. I think our accountability is our worst problem atm.
Welcome CrowTwig :D

Burton one is a very interesting debate. We have voiced our opinions on this board previously. I must say its a 50-50. Some people think he is better off on the wing and be swung forward if needed. I am of an opinion that we should play him as a permanent forward and swing him to the wing if he is not getting his hands on in in the forward line.

I have said for a while now that we should play Welsh, Carey and Burton on FF line and play Perrie at CHF and surround him with crumbers. Yestersday we had no crumbers to speak of which was very disappoining. When the ball did go into our forward line our big forwards provided a contest but ewe had no crumbers under their feet. The only crumbers that were there were from Kangaroos.
 

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I'm sorry if I'm bringing up issues that have been debated in the past but thx for the heads up.

I agree though. In that last qtr, I seemed to notice Troy Makepeace roaming across our half- forward area like a free range chicken. Did we have an extra man in defence which resulted in that? It didn't seem like it --
 

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Originally posted by CrowTwig
I'm sorry if I'm bringing up issues that have been debated in the past but thx for the heads up.

I agree though. In that last qtr, I seemed to notice Troy Makepeace roaming across our half- forward area like a free range chicken. Did we have an extra man in defence which resulted in that? It didn't seem like it --
Don't apologise mate. Its always good to have a healthy debate. Its an issue that won't go away for a while I think.

We have the cattle its a matter of playing them in the right positions and getting the best out of them. Burton is one bloke who Brisbane always struggles against. If it was me I would play him out of the goal square against the lions.

_F: _ 17. Scott Welsh _ 24. Brett Burton _ 2. Wayne Carey
HF: _ 18. Graham Johncock _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 23. Andrew McLeod

This forward line is potent and will kick you goals. The one we had against Roos can't kick goals to save their life.
 

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Just about every Crow supporter, myself included, can see that Carey cannot play at CHF. He simply isn't quick enough and can't mark above his head. And we seriously need to just go through the guts. Its simply bad play to go so wide.

If Garry doesn't recognise this and act accordingly (and he should have during the pre-season anyway), then he HAS to go.

Come on down, Garry O'Donnell.
 
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#38
Originally posted by CrowTwig
I'm sorry if I'm bringing up issues that have been debated in the past but thx for the heads up.

I agree though. In that last qtr, I seemed to notice Troy Makepeace roaming across our half- forward area like a free range chicken. Did we have an extra man in defence which resulted in that? It didn't seem like it --
Welcome CT!

In the last quarter we were badly outnumbered in attack, which was made look worse when we bombed the ball in rather than looking for a teamate.
 
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#39
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
We have the cattle its a matter of playing them in the right positions and getting the best out of them. Burton is one bloke who Brisbane always struggles against. If it was me I would play him out of the goal square against the lions.

_F: _ 17. Scott Welsh _ 24. Brett Burton _ 2. Wayne Carey
HF: _ 18. Graham Johncock _ 22. Ian Perrie _ 23. Andrew McLeod

This forward line is potent and will kick you goals. The one we had against Roos can't kick goals to save their life.
I think it is fair to say that a structure of Perrie giving a target across CHF & Carey/Welsh across FF would make heck of a difference. I think we actually need another crumber across FF, be it a Bode, Schuey, etc.
 

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#40
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I think it is fair to say that a structure of Perrie giving a target across CHF & Carey/Welsh across FF would make heck of a difference. I think we actually need another crumber across FF, be it a Bode, Schuey, etc.
Even playing Carey and Burton at FF line with a crumber and movr Welshy to HFF.

As I said we do have the cattle to kick big scores but its just a matter of playing them in position that will get the best out of their scoring potential.
 
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#41
Getting back to the PS debate on the value of our ruckmen.

Heres some stats:
Crows won the hitouts 18-7, but the Roos won the clearances
16-8.
Biglands had 7 possessions and 1 mark
Clarke had 2 possessions and 0 marks

Seems to me having great tap ruckmen, with no around the ground skills, is not the way to go. Don't know what our clearances from stoppages were like, but at centre bounces, getting our taps, didn't result in clearances, and scoring opportunities.

Never been a fan of Biglands, all potential! no realisation.
Makes dumb decisions, and has reached where he is, on effort, not skills. Give Hudson an opportunity, he won't perform any worse, and he may be an improvement (greater positional flexibility)

The second point is; our bloody focus continually is on the forward line, and its structure.
Well we got thrashed through the midfield, at centre bounces, and our midfielders can't make the appropriate decisions or deliver the ball lace out to forwards.

Why do we insist then to want to take players out of midfield rotations (Burton), to prop up a forward line, that doesnt function anyway, if you can't get the ball to them.
We seriously need to bolster our midfield. Its folly to suggest we still have a premier midfield.
 
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#43
Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Getting back to the PS debate on the value of our ruckmen.

Heres some stats:
Crows won the hitouts 18-7, but the Roos won the clearances
16-8.
Biglands had 7 possessions and 1 mark
Clarke had 2 possessions and 0 marks

Seems to me having great tap ruckmen, with no around the ground skills, is not the way to go. Don't know what our clearances from stoppages were like, but at centre bounces, getting our taps, didn't result in clearances, and scoring opportunities.

Never been a fan of Biglands, all potential! no realisation.
Makes dumb decisions, and has reached where he is, on effort, not skills. Give Hudson an opportunity, he won't perform any worse, and he may be an improvement (greater positional flexibility)

The second point is; our bloody focus continually is on the forward line, and its structure.
Well we got thrashed through the midfield, at centre bounces, and our midfielders can't make the appropriate decisions or deliver the ball lace out to forwards.

Why do we insist then to want to take players out of midfield rotations (Burton), to prop up a forward line, that doesnt function anyway, if you can't get the ball to them.
We seriously need to bolster our midfield. Its folly to suggest we still have a premier midfield.
problem is in two areas WW

The ruckmen are so predictable, they always tap it to the same spot. i.e straight down. This negates the advantage as the opposition midfielders know where the ball is going as well.

To retain the advantage of winning the tap leads me to problem 2.
USE SOME BLOODY VARIETY YOU IDIOTS
The ruckmen have obviously been coached to do it this way. The coaches, ruck coach in particular, are dunderheads in that they don't allow/instruct for a few variations. The ruckman should signal to selected midfielder, with hand or voice, which direction and distance he is going to try and tap it.

All other sides do it, difference is their ruckman aren't as good at either a) winning the tap or b) controlling it's direction.
 

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Great posts Waynes World and Naughty Monkey. Agree with everything youve said.

The other problem area for me is... the run from defence. When that dries up or our skill level is below par and defenders dont hit midfield targets (as we did yesterday) we're stuffed.

The drive from defence has always been a great feature of the AFC's game when they are at their best. If our defenders were allowed to run straight up the ground, instead of going wide and criss crossing the ball across the field we would be much better off.
 

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Perrie to CHF... Carey to FF... and LEAVE it.

Carey at CHF is not working, has not worked in the past, and will not work in the future. He is TOO SLOW. Put him in the goalsquare.
 

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#46
Originally posted by CrowTwig
Hi ... first time poster on these forums.

I don't understand why burton is not secured as a prominent forward when he is clearly one of the better (not best) markers in this AFC's side. I am aware that he is Adelaide's fittest player but if a tagger is going to run him into the ground all over why not put him in the forward where he can exploit his fitness and marking ability a little better?

Like some have mentioned earlier ... when the ball hits the ground, there are never any of our guys to rove the ball. I think our accountability is our worst problem atm.
Welcome CrowTwig.

Agreed. Now you must email this post to Gary Ayres
ayrescancoach@ozemail.com.au
 

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No offence to the 2 players im about to mention, but Nigel Smart, and Ben Hart were to put it blunty, were pathetic. slow, and should seriuosly consider retiring.

There lack of pace was evident as the Kangaroos' Midfielders/ forward were able to get too much space.

i was inpressed wit hMichael Doughty and Trent Henchel
 

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I had a chance to look through the statistics of the game today and something that was of interest to me was the fact that Bode only had 76 minutes of playing time and I didn't think he was all that bad.

Also, Burton had 79 minutes and Perrie 86 which was also a surprise to me given not alot was going right up forward with the others who were playing there. Maximum is 125 minutes.
 

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#49
Originally posted by NorthBoi96
i was inpressed wit hMichael Doughty and Trent Henchel
I thought that was one of the worst game Hentschel has ever played (granted he didn't get a much of a look in thanks to our pathetic midfield). What has impressed you about him??????:confused:
 
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