The 10 biggest rivalries in football. In order.

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What are the biggest rivalries in league Football ? To have a decent rivalry, there are a number of factors to consider. Some rivalries exist due to the two teams having played a lot of big games agaisnt each other over a period of time. Be it 10 years or, 100 years.

Geogrpahy is also important. Freo and West Coast havn't played many big games against each other (in terms of importance), but their rivarly exists due to the geographical similarity of the two teams.

Before I start, I don't really classify Bulldogs vs Brisbane a rivarly. In 3 years time, we will have forgotten all about the "scratching" allegations. To classify that as a rivalry would mean we would have to classify every game that has a tribunal hearing as a rivalry.

Anyway, here we go.

1.) Essendon vs Carlton.

The biggest rivalry in football. Not just due to this years form, either. These two clubs have won 31 of the 104 VFL/AFL premierships between them, and have consistently, over the course of 104 years met each other in big games. 6 Grand Final matches against each other is bettered only by Melbourne-Collingwood, who have met each other 7 times. Add to this the fact that Essendon is one flag behind Carltons record of 16, and many spiteful and memorable clashes over the years, and you have footballs biggest rivalry.

2.) Carlton vs Collingwood

This used to be the biggest rivalry. These two clubs have made the finals more times than any others. 72 times for the Pies, and 62 times for the Blues. Due to this, they have met in many big games, including 6 Grand Finals with the Blues winning the last 5. What makes it even bigger, is that for many years Collingwood classed themselves as the "greatest" club, but Carlton overook their premiership record, often at the expense of their vanquished foe in Grand Finals. Collingwood demise, drops this rivalry back to number 2.

3.) Essendon vs Collingwood.

These two clubs have won 29 flags between them and have met in tons of big games. Remarkably, the 1990 Grand Final was their first Grand Final match since 1911, even though thee two clubs made dozens and dozens of finals appearances over the years. In fact Essendon appeared in 23 Grand Finals between 1911, and 1990, with UNBELIEVABLY not one of them against the Pies. Still, the two clubs have met in many finals agaisnt each other, and have the two bigegst following in Australia. The spiteful 1990 Grand Final, re-ignited a rivalry, that has been brewing for over 100 years. The drought-breaking premiership for the Maggies, makes this rivarly in more "storied"

4.) Richmond Vs Carlton

Carlton is Richmonds greatest rival. They have met in 6 Grand Finals against each other and have had many stirring clashes. Havn't met in a final since 1982. Have won 26 flags between them. From 1969 to 1982, they met in 4 Grand Finals, with Richmond winning two of them. All of them were memorable with the 1972 GF being the highest scoring Grand Final in history. The 1973 GF saw big Nick poleaxed, while 1982 saw the first streaker.

5.) Adelaide vs Port Adelaide.

Whilst they have not been involved in many important head-to-head clashes, the passion of the South Australian fans and the close nature of the contests has made this the biggest of the two local derbies. What has made this rivarly interesting is Port ability to beat the Crows, at times humiliating them with close unexpected wins. The first derby was a great example of this. This makes the rivalry more "mythical".

6.) West Coat vs Fremantle.

Due to the Eagles dominance, this rivalry doesn't have the same impact as the South Australian derby. Still, the fact that the two teams hate each other, combined with the geographical impact you can only get with a local derby, makes this the 6th biggest rivalry in Australin Football today.

7.) Melbourne vs Collingwood.

Between 1955 and 1964, these two clubs met in 5 Grand Finals head-to-head. To put this into context, if you were to meet a team 5 times in Grand Finals over 100 years this would be a lot, and these clubs did it over 10 years ! They have met in 7 GF's alltogether. Part of the "myth" is that Colligwood were the VFL's most sucessfull club, but they couldn't beat Melbourne. Melbourne won 6 of the 7 Grand Finals. In 1958, Melbourne was attempting to equal Collingwood proud record of 4 consecutive premeirships. The Dees met the Pies in the Grand Final that year and the Pies shocked them causing one of the great upsets. They also met in a 1958 Home and Away game that drew 99,000 people. A record for a home and away match. Melbournes demise over the last 36 years, drops this to number 7.

8.) Richmond vs Collingwood

An old suburban rivalry. These two famous clubs have met in 6 Grand Finals, with the Pies beating Richmond in the 1927, 28, and 1929 Grand Finals. How the Tigers must have hated the Pies after that !! They have met in many big games over the years, with Richmonds last premiership coming after beating the Pies in 1980. It was record GF margin at the time.

9.) Essendon vs Hawthorn

Rivals of the 1980's. Along with Rich-Coll in 1927,28,29, Essendon and Hawthorn remain the only two clubs to have met in three successive Grand Finals in 1983,84,85. In the mid eighties, these were the games to be at. They continued to meet in big games right up to the 1989 second semi-final. Therer have been many memorable incidents and clashes between the two teams.

10.) Hawthorn vs North Melbourne.

Great rivals of the 70's. They met in 3 GF's in 1975, 76 and 1978. North won their first flag agaisnt the Hawks in 1975. To illustrate how many finals they played, have a look at the period 1974 to 1978. In those five years, the two clubs met twice a year in the finals, every year. That's 10 finals matches in 5 years, to go along with 10 H&A meetings in that time. That's 20 matches overall. John Kennedy defection to the Roos was also an important factor in that rivalry.

Apologies to Ess vs West Coat (probably number 11.

Also apologies to Collingwood vs Geelong, Geelong vs West Coast, Essendon vs North Melbourne

Thoughts ?
 
Dan24, Spot except for one thing- drop freo West coast to number 11 - Cause except for the week leading up they are way too nice too each other. Ie. On Basils footy show -Ch7 5:00pm Sunday July 8 - Basil Said im not greedy i just want west and freo number one and 2, I dont care which order.!

See What i Mean, The rivalry between West coast and essendon is huge over here and the kevin sheedy throat cut gesture increased the intensity, I copped more than usual after the game, when i returned to work other wise good Job
 
Dan24 wrote:

5.) Adelaide vs Port Adelaide.

Whilst they have not been involved in many important head-to-head clashes, the passion of the South Australian fans and the close nature of the contests has made this the biggest of the two local derbies. What has made this rivarly interesting is Port ability to beat the Crows, at times humiliating them with close unexpected wins. The first derby was a great example of this. This makes the rivalry more "mythical".

"Mythical"? Maybe you mean legendary - "Mystical" even
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There's also the historical element to the SA rivalry as well - Port's renegade bid to join the AFL in 1990, which led to the hasty formation of the Crows, caused huge animosity against Port Adelaide, and Port fans feel that the Crows 'stole' their place in the AFL.

Although Port's finals chances ended weeks ago, the Showdown in round 22 could be the most important since the first one if a place in the finals for the Crows hinges on it.
 

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Biggest rivals? don't look over the last fifteen years and think that these "bloody Blockbusters from a manufactured draw constitute rivalry's.
Rivalries were formed on tribal, religious, and political lines. for example the great rivalry between Fitzroy and Collingwood.
Essendon was a protestant freemason club,despised by the working class catholics of Footscray, North Melbourne, Richmond and Collingwood.
Melbourne and Carlton were seen as the old school tie brigade, associated as were Essendon with a number of conservative politicians, whilst the other inner city clubs such as north, the dogs ,tiges,roys,pies had strong trade union and labor party ties.
You still can hear from the terraces derogatory comments about oppostion teams,which go back to the old rivalries of 50 years or more ago.
True hatred for an opposition team cannot be manufactured,nor can transfered loyalties.
There are many people interstate for example who believe that Victorians despise them.
The truth of the matter is that if an interstate team is playing one of the "Old Enemies" from Victoria the interstate team gets wholehearted support.
 
These manufactured blockbusters from a manufactued draw DO constitue rivalries. They constitute rivalries, whiuch is WHY they manufacture the draw to suit it.

Rivalrys only happen over the course of a long period of time. You can't manufacture a rivalry. But you can mayufacture a draw to complement an already existing rivalry/s. Such as the agreement for Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon to all play each other twice.

Fitzroy and Collingwood were great rivals at the turn f the century, but Fitzroy's inability to be consistently competitive for the last 50 years put that particualr secondary to the Pies rivalry's with Carlton, Essendon, Richmond and Geelong.
 
Greatest rivalry game is Carlton v. Richmond. Have a look at the crowds for these 2 clubs in the 1920,s and 30,s. Carlton now despise Essendon more than Collingwood and Essendon despise Carlton more than Collingwood. Interesting enough a survey done many years ago on Essendon supporters showed that Collingwood and Richmond were the clubs they most hated.
 
I liked your list but i definitly thought that Ess v WCE shoudve been on there. The whole jacket waving is now a tradition not to mention the Long incident and now the White incident with Sheeds, its definitly one of the top 5 rivalries in the comp. Freo v WCE isnt really a rivalry, we want to beat each other for bragging riight but for the rest of the year we're very polite and want eachother to do well.
 
Jod23.

Yeah, you're probably right. Essendon and West Coast should have been in there. As you can see though I didn't forget about it. I put it at number 11. But who would dare put it above Collingwood-Melbourne, for example ?

It's a tough call.

You see, I am certainly able to take others opinions and sometimes I admit I erred myself (as I just admitted), so if i do stick by something (i.e top spot) you know it must be "right"
 
Dont forget the Kangas V the Marshmallows which was all started by Sheedy himself just to get his team up but didnt work for him last year but maybe working for him this year
 
The biggest rivalry is Norff and Dockers for sure. If they play at Colostomy Park the rivalry will centre on who can get more members in than there are ground and security staff. They just made it at the MCG this year.

I think the Dockers would win that one actually.
 
How quickly the argument turns to membership numbers when "popular" teams can't win a game!!

When the premiership is won based on the greatest number of members/supporters a team has, then get back to me!!

Cheers

Gonzo
 
Yes Norff have been very successful. 4 flags in 75 completed seasons.

Thats one flag for each member. Can they take them home to shoe their friends (if they had any)
 

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No unfortunately magpie greg doesn't go back to school until monday, but on the bright side only just over one day to go.

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Sandie, Gonzo and BSA. OOH HOW very original. You were all probably writers for the Mick Molloy Show.

What's the common thread here? Intellgent Sandie, Intelligent Gonzo and Intelligent BSA? That's right, they are all oxymorons.

But havent you girls all breached your parole conditions? Just be careful or I wont pay my cab fare the next time I am in your taxi.
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Hey Dan.....

"Apologies to Ess vs West Coat (probably number 11."

Was the Coat a subconcious mistake? Perhaps we should substitute in jackets?
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Gave me a laugh anyway.....
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I think the Western Derby deserves its place at number 6. Just because it's a 'who can cheer the loudest, loser buys the winner a beer' rivalry rather than a 'spit on your kids and scratch the paintwork of your car' type, doesn't make it any less 'big'.
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Us versus Geelong has really ben a fizzer since 94. For quite a few years they seemed to beat us every time except in finals. Not this week though!
 
Hey EaglesFan I Got A Corp Box For The geelong game this week and i am gonna love watching them kick your blue and yellow butts (unless the eagles trot out that other pathetic excuse for a jumper, Looks Like a left over from the 60's)
Geelong by 5 goals


Bombers Rock 2000
 
Good call Dan i wanted there in the beginning at least 5th. Port and Adel isnt as a big a rivalry as Ess WCE.

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I can handle the fighting, its the affection i cant stand and i dont mind us talking just dont try to touch my hand.
 
Why dont we reverse it and do the 10 most 'non-rivalries' if thats such a word.
1. St Kilda-Fremantle
2. Bulldogs-Fremantle
3. Port Adelaide-Sydney
4. Adelaide-St Kilda
5. West Coast-Collingwood
6. Adelaide-Colingwood
7. Richmond-Fremantle
8. Geelong-Port Adelaide
9. Melbourne-Fremantle
10. finally, I gotta throw in an all-victorian combo so i'll say Carlton and St Kilda. i could be wrong but as far as i know these two teams couldn't care less about each other.
Anyway, there wasn't much point to this post, just felt like writing.

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Originally posted by jod23:
Good call Dan i wanted there in the beginning at least 5th. Port and Adel isnt as a big a rivalry as Ess WCE.


Not in WA or Victoria obviously, but more important in SA. That's the way with these supposed rivalries - it's all subjective and depends where you come from.

It's good to see the Dockers finally on an even keel with the Eagles though. The Derbies should really have a good build up from now on.
 
Originally posted by Grave Danger:
Not in WA or Victoria obviously, but more important in SA. That's the way with these supposed rivalries - it's all subjective and depends where you come from.


That may be so grave danger but blind freddy can see Adel v Port is more of a rivalry than Ess. V Wce. Dan24, stick to your guns, you were right the first time.
 
Originally posted by jod23:
Good call Dan i wanted there in the beginning at least 5th. Port and Adel isnt as a big a rivalry as Ess WCE.



Jod, Jod, Jod, there you go again making coments on something you know nothing about. The WC-Ess rivalry should be in the top 10, I agree. I was lucky enough to have been at that game where Sheedy waved his jacket. It was a great game, but there is no way in the world you can rate that rivalry above Port vs Adel.


You do understand the story of how Ports bid to join the AFL was rejected in the early 90s and thats the reason the Crows were formed. Us Port supporters regard the Crows as Ports bastard child.


Then in the 1st ever game, Port defeated the more fancied Crows. It took fremantle like 11 tries to beat WC. So I think it said something for Ports tradition because what took Fremantle 11 goes we did in our first.


Finally all Crows supporters grew up hating Port because of their success in the SANFL, so the hatered against Port for Crows supporters has always been there, even before the Crows existed. Unlike the WC-Ess thing which has only happened in the last 7- 8 years.

[This message has been edited by carb70 (edited 04 February 2001).]
 
Carb you make some good points. How about :

1. Ess - Carl
2. Carl - Coll
3. Ess - Coll
4. Rich - Carl
5. Adel - Port
6. WCE - Ess
7. WCE - Freo
8. Melb - Coll
9. Coll - Rich
10. Ess - Haw

There thats pretty good i reckon.

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I can handle the fighting, its the affection i cant stand and i dont mind us talking just dont try to touch my hand.
 

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