The 2013 Draft - Post Mortem

[Tragic sainter]

Bookmarked.

lets see if you hold that opinion at the end of the season. You obviously never seen the kid play as his kicking, particularly in traffic is sublime.

Look forward to it as Goddard is top 5 kicks in the afl.

 

[BM123]

Thanks for the laugh

 

[yaco55]

Wow - Way to over-rate players - Goddard is one of the elite kicks in the competition - Logic dictates that you can't say that a just drafted player is a better kick than Goddard.

I find that about 10-15% of elite junior kicks, fail to translate this skill to the AFL.

 

[cotter101]

Wow - Way to over-rate players - Goddard is one of the elite kicks in the competition - Logic dictates that you can't say that a just drafted player is a better kick than Goddard.

I find that about 10-15% of elite junior kicks, fail to translate this skill to the AFL.

Exactly.

 

[Super Hans]

You obviously have never seen Lennon play other then the odd media release. He can play forward pocket, lead up mid size forward, High half Forward, deep forward as he has elite hands and reads the play as well as jack rewoldt. He also has great awarness which allowed him to impact when in the middile, averaged 28 possies and a couple of goals while playing as a midfielder.

Oh he can also play Half Back as well...yup goddard is a good comparasion, he just has a better kick then goddard

Jeez if Lennon is that good it's a wonder he slid outside the top five, you're making him sound like the second coming of Jesus.

 

[Tiger71]

Jeez if Lennon is that good it's a wonder he slid outside the top five, you're making him sound like the second coming of Jesus.

Take it for what you will. We will see by the end of 12-24 months who is right.

 

[Zach Package]

Take it for what you will. We will see by the end of 12-24 months who is right.

give it 10 years, just to make sure he's not the 2nd coming of rhys palmer

 

[Tiger71]

give it 10 years, just to make sure he's not the 2nd coming of rhys palmer

Like Hurley ? Anyway mate, no point having a footy discussion with you. it is obvious anything Richmond is bad so no point.

 

[Zach Package]

Like Hurley ? Anyway mate, no point having a footy discussion with you. it is obvious anything Richmond is bad so no point.

Mate it's just common sense, 'check back in a year' is an absolutely ludicrous way to assess teenage footballers, but if you want to go with it then fine.

 

[Tiger71]

Mate it's just common sense, 'check back in a year' is an absolutely ludicrous way to assess teenage footballers, but if you want to go with it then fine.

Thats essendon logic at its finest lol

he has not played a game of AFL yet. I say 12 months simply to see him play a season before you judge him. I say that as well as you and your fellow knockers are completely ignoring the wraps on the kid from coaches, recruiters, other clubs etc. Being you blissfully ignore whats in front of you because he is a tiger now, what other option do we have then saying lets revisit this at the end of the season to see who is right ?

 

[juss]

Getting away from the pointless arguments, what was Lennon's testing at the combine? Is he slow? Unfit? Doesn't jump high? Don't really follow the combine results that well.

 

[Zach Package]

Thats essendon logic at its finest lol

he has not played a game of AFL yet. I say 12 months simply to see him play a season before you judge him. I say that as well as you and your fellow knockers are completely ignoring the wraps on the kid from coaches, recruiters, other clubs etc. Being you blissfully ignore whats in front of you because he is a tiger now, what other option do we have then saying lets revisit this at the end of the season to see who is right ?

This has stuff all to do with who I support, or who you support, if we had our first rounder Lennon would probably be the guy i'd have been pining for (actually that's a lie, would have been Salem, but he went higher). It's not because he's a tiger, it's partly because you've made what I think is a really poor comparison in Goddard, and partly because you're relentlessly talking him up, as if he mysteriously didn't go top 3 for some bizarre reason.

 

[Tiger71]

This has stuff all to do with who I support, or who you support, if we had our first rounder Lennon would probably be the guy i'd have been pining for (actually that's a lie, would have been Salem, but he went higher). It's not because he's a tiger, it's partly because you've made what I think is a really poor comparison in Goddard, and partly because you're relentlessly talking him up, as if he mysteriously didn't go top 3 for some bizarre reason.

Talking him up ? I have compared him to goddard due to lennon proving he can play forward mid and back. I said it was a fair comparison also due to both being renowned kicks. I believe Lennon is a more natural two sided player as he uses both more often in MY OPINION then goddard compared to goddard when he was 18.

I am not the only person to see the comparison. Most recruiters have said the same thing.

I never said he should have gone higher in the draft - you guys did

You compared him to Chris Knights FFS - That shows you A have never seen Lennon play and B Or have never seen Knights play or C your trolling due to Lennon being a tiger. He is so far a diffrent player then knights its not funny lol. The only comparison you could stretch is that Knights and Lennon spend time forward.

Why is that so hard for you to understand ?

 

[blaisee]

I can't see it either.

agree Lennon is nothing like Goddard

Lennon has proven himself as a genuine midfielder and also a genuine forward that kicks regular goals. Goddard has done neither.

 

[Tragic sainter]

agree Lennon is nothing like Goddard

Lennon has proven himself as a genuine midfielder and also a genuine forward that kicks regular goals. Goddard has done neither.

Whilst Goddard has proven himself as a gun footballer.

 

[Zach Package]

You compared him to Chris Knights FFS - That shows you A have never seen Lennon play and B Or have never seen Knights play or C your trolling due to Lennon being a tiger. He is so far a diffrent player then knights its not funny lol. The only comparison you could stretch is that Knights and Lennon spend time forward.

Knights in his halcyon days was a hell of a player, medium forward with strong hands and a raking right boot who ran through the midfield, it's just the absolute obvious comparison for me, not the Jay Clark 'he's tall and he kicks the thing a long way, must be Brendon Goddard' comparison

 

[blaisee]

Whilst Goddard has proven himself as a gun footballer.

playing loose in the back pocket, as a number 1 draft pick.

 

[Tiger71]

Knights in his halcyon days was a hell of a player, medium forward with strong hands and a raking right boot who ran through the midfield, it's just the absolute obvious comparison for me, not the Jay Clark 'he's tall and he kicks the thing a long way, must be Brendon Goddard' comparison

I would agree with you in part other then highlight the obvious differences. lennon can play full time in the midfield. Lennon has also played in the back half - Knights has done neither but Goddard has. Knights was not noted for "strong hands". knights was never a lead up forward..I could go on but I wont. it is obvious there is no common ground here so again lets wait till the end of the season to see which comparison fits.

 

[Tragic sainter]

playing loose in the back pocket, as a number 1 draft pick.

He Did what was best for our team. We were a pretty good side for a fair while you know.

 

[aussierulesrules]

agree Lennon is nothing like Goddard

Lennon has proven himself as a genuine midfielder and also a genuine forward that kicks regular goals. Goddard has done neither.

I'm guessing you missed the 2009 and 2010 seasons then, when Goddard spent the great majority of his time in the midfield and dominated (36 25 or more possession games and eighteen 30 or more possie games, over the two years), making the AA team both years, finishing top 12 in the Brownlow in one and almost dragging us over the line for a flag in the other?

But I guess Lennon showed more in his 7 TAC Cup games playing in the midfield?

He has spent little time playing forward, but when he did, he showed that he could also be outstanding there, including kicking bags of goals in short periods of time when we were trying to find someone to replace Riewoldt, and another when he kicked 4 in 20 minutes to start a game (should have been 5 for the quarter, but another goal he kicked was mistakenly disallowed after he kicked it), before being moved back into the midfield from the 2nd quarter onwards (finishing the game with 28 possies and 4 goals).

 

[BM123]

playing loose in the back pocket, as a number 1 draft pick.

You know that he was seen to be the best player in the comp not too long ago?

 

[aussierulesrules]

You know that he was seen to be the best player in the comp not too long ago?

And was playing midfield at the time and had been for two years!

 

[blaisee]

He Did what was best for our team. We were a pretty good side for a fair while you know.

yep best for the team no doubt, and also best for him in that he did what he was good at, playing loose in the back pocket, setting up play. Nothing wrong with that, but he wasnt ever a midfielder, thats all I am saying

 

[aussierulesrules]

yep best for the team no doubt, and also best for him in that he did what he was good at, playing loose in the back pocket, setting up play. Nothing wrong with that, but he wasnt ever a midfielder, thats all I am saying

So you're just choosing to ignore by far his two best seasons, 2009 and 2010, then, when he was playing in the midfield and sticking with your theory that "Lennon has proven himself as a genuine midfielder and Goddard has not", despite the fact Lennon has played 7 TAC Cup games there, while Goddard made two AA teams in the AFL and arguably should have won a Norm Smith medal, for BOG in an AFL GF, playing there?

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[blaisee]

And was playing midfield at the time and had been for two years!

Yea look,

dont agree that Goddard has ever proven himself as an AFL star midfielder. Was an absolute star utility and very versatile footballer no doubt, but an A grade AFL midfielder, no.