Mega Thread The 2016 Buckley Coaching Discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Posts
3,671
Likes
11,531
AFL Club
Collingwood
Moderator #4,777
Yes, lets forget about the entire 2015 and start of the season. Who needs finals anyway right? Buckley has had too many chances, somebody else needs to take this team up the ladder.
We are all right behind you on this. We just want to know what step 2 is of the plan. You know, the one between "get new coach" and "play finals"?
 

Markfs

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Posts
9,084
Likes
6,589
Location
Fremantle
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Margot Robbie's Shaving Team...
Mr Miyagi is dead.

This should not count him out to run our high performance department.

His mistakes will be few and he will be unfazed by the inevitable criticism.
well i tend to think that death does nothing for his CV as a fitness guy. If he died then he can't know much about preventing concussion or preventing crook shoulders. That bloke in game of thrones, Snow, he seems to know a thing or two about fixing dud bodies. We should find out if he's free.

Maybe some of the guys at BF can post some other links to popular culture that will help in the search. Maybe we should determine the most popular fitness person and give them the job. The net rarely misleads....
 

Unknown Identity

Professional Strawman
Joined
Oct 7, 2009
Posts
15,871
Likes
22,451
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys Chicago Bulls
New coach = automatic top four.

Well look what a new coach has done for Carlton.. it does foster fast improvement if it's the right person.

Bevo at the Doggies also.

Not saying that would be the case for us.. but there is evidence supporting the theory.

But your picture definitively overrides any facts!.. well played.
 

Helfarch

Premiership Player
Joined
Mar 31, 2008
Posts
3,161
Likes
3,321
Location
Victoria
AFL Club
Collingwood
Well look what a new coach has done for Carlton.. it does foster fast improvement if it's the right person.

Bevo at the Doggies also.

Not saying that would be the case for us.. but there is evidence supporting the theory.

But your picture definitively overrides any facts!.. well played.
I didn't know Carlton was going to make top four. Doggies can't make it, Bevo wasn't replaced. Unless he was secretly sacked, an assistant promoted and then sacked to reinstate Bevo at the start of the year. Those wily Dogs.

If any facts were ever offered it definitely would override them.
 

Unknown Identity

Professional Strawman
Joined
Oct 7, 2009
Posts
15,871
Likes
22,451
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys Chicago Bulls
I didn't know Carlton was going to make top four. Doggies can't make it, Bevo wasn't replaced. Unless he was secretly sacked, an assistant promoted and then sacked to reinstate Bevo at the start of the year. Those wily Dogs.

If any facts were ever offered it definitely would override them.
Improvement is all relative to where your base is!.. Bevo replaced McCartney in 2014/2015 and in one season they went from 14th to 6th.

Carlton finished dead last and are now currently 5 and 5 sitting 11th.

8 and 7 spots improvement from each team with 1 preseason under a new coach.

They are the facts.

Like i stated that may not happen for us or any other club but that type of improvement without a list changing too much is completely possible with a coaching change.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Helfarch

Premiership Player
Joined
Mar 31, 2008
Posts
3,161
Likes
3,321
Location
Victoria
AFL Club
Collingwood
Improvement is all relative to where your base is!.. Bevo replaced McCartney in 2014/2015 and in one season they went from 14th to 6th.

Carlton finished dead last and are now currently 5 and 5 sitting 11th.

8 and 7 spots improvement from each team with 1 preseason under a new coach.

They are the facts.

Like i stated that may not happen for us or any other club but that type of improvement without a list changing too much is completely possible with a coaching change.
You might want to go and check list changes for at least one of your factual examples.

It's all well and good to postulate that there is the possibility that a team may improve however it's possible that appointing Pendlebury captain/coach could see improvement.

Sacking the entire coaching staff and appointing an actual Magpie called Gary could possibly see improvement.

Where are the more qualified people to replace the coaches we have? It's not unreasonable to wonder who people have in mind when all that is suggested is:

1. Sack Bucks
2. ????
3. Top four
 

Saintly Viewed

Premium Platinum
Joined
Aug 10, 2015
Posts
42,605
Likes
33,364
AFL Club
Collingwood
Well look what a new coach has done for Carlton.. it does foster fast improvement if it's the right person.

Bevo at the Doggies also.

Not saying that would be the case for us.. but there is evidence supporting the theory.

But your picture definitively overrides any facts!.. well played.
The only flaw in this logic is it implies Bolton and Beverage will both soon become premiership coaches.
And if they both don't, then ultimately, well, they are just where we are.... no flag under current regime
And then their jungle drums beat....
 

Saintly Viewed

Premium Platinum
Joined
Aug 10, 2015
Posts
42,605
Likes
33,364
AFL Club
Collingwood
You might want to go and check list changes for at least one of your factual examples.

It's all well and good to postulate that there is the possibility that a team may improve however it's possible that appointing Pendlebury captain/coach could see improvement.

Sacking the entire coaching staff and appointing an actual Magpie called Gary could possibly see improvement.

Where are the more qualified people to replace the coaches we have? It's not unreasonable to wonder who people have in mind when all that is suggested is:

1. Sack Bucks
2. ????
3. Top four
Use magic beans .... Easy

image.jpeg
 

Unknown Identity

Professional Strawman
Joined
Oct 7, 2009
Posts
15,871
Likes
22,451
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Dallas Cowboys Chicago Bulls
The only flaw in this logic is it implies Bolton and Beverage will both soon become premiership coaches.
And if they both don't, then ultimately, well, they are just where we are.... no flag under current regime
And then their jungle drums beat....
No-one can predict who will become premiers though.. improving 8 and 7 spots on the ladder is a significant shift in the right direction.
 

PicaBoo

Soldaat van Oranje
Joined
Jul 2, 2015
Posts
7,550
Likes
9,907
Location
Holden Shower Center
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
What other teams?
you're confusing me... so should this miyagi guy be interviewed for the coaching position or is he a fitness expert. Either way, it sounds like he would get us on top of our injury concerns. Does the club know about him? Is he under contract with another club?
He is under contract with Richmond and training Dusty in the art of chopstick fencing.
 

Markfs

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Posts
9,084
Likes
6,589
Location
Fremantle
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Margot Robbie's Shaving Team...
Can hardly blame Buckley for yesterday. If anything the set up to stifle the dogs run worked. Injuries ultimately were a major deciding factor.
i think it's our duty to blame buckley. i dont see an alternative. sometimes buckley's razor theory holds - the answer to most problems is sacking bucks
 

Run n Spread

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Apr 2, 2013
Posts
7,473
Likes
5,158
AFL Club
Collingwood
i think it's our duty to blame buckley. i dont see an alternative. sometimes buckley's razor theory holds - the answer to most problems is sacking bucks
OK fine. I was disgusted with the attitude yesterday in the final 2 mins. Simply gave up. Buckley should of ripped Fasolo's jumber off with his bare hands lined up himself and shown the modern generation how it's done. Also his tactics in not foreseeing 5 injuries and combating the dogs rotations showed a lack of maturity and nous.

An 18 team competition sure but 17 other clubs would kill to be Collingwood.

None the less he survives. But dear God jobs are on the line next week.
 
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Posts
3,671
Likes
11,531
AFL Club
Collingwood
Moderator #4,800
Improvement is all relative to where your base is!.. Bevo replaced McCartney in 2014/2015 and in one season they went from 14th to 6th.

Carlton finished dead last and are now currently 5 and 5 sitting 11th.

8 and 7 spots improvement from each team with 1 preseason under a new coach.

They are the facts.

Like i stated that may not happen for us or any other club but that type of improvement without a list changing too much is completely possible with a coaching change.
Since Buckley became coach, how many of the other newly appointed coaches have won premierships?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom