Autopsy The 2017 AFL Grand Final - What did you like, learn or hate?

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by The_Wookie, Sep 30, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. kranky al

    kranky al Norm Smith Medallist

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    east perth www.pixelpac.com.au
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    7,770
    Location:
    Greenough
    Its a miscommunication mate - settle down

    You tigers think everyones talking about the vfl when its actualky the afl they are talking about.
     

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  2. Plugger35

    Plugger35 The umpires are always right!

    St Kilda
    Other teams:
    Chelsea, Subiaco, Black Caps
    Joined:
    Sep 08
    Posts:
    87,000
    [​IMG]

    The umpiring wasn't as bad as the GF last year but it was still one of the worst umpired GFs I've seen, especially in the first half.

    The whole umpiring department needs an overhaul, especially when it comes to the rules which have become a complete shambles.
     
  3. MinerBoy

    MinerBoy Brownlow Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Other teams?
    Joined:
    Jan 07
    Posts:
    21,102
    Location:
    Beyond The Wall.
    No, it wasn't at all.... but look who I'm talking to lol.
     
    Grockadoc likes this.
  4. tugga

    tugga Brownlow Medallist

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Joined:
    May 06
    Posts:
    27,512
    Location:
    Yid army
    Liked
    The fact that at the parade on the Friday and before and during the game on Saturday, supporters of both clubs mixed together freely with no sign (that I could see anyway) of aggro or idiocy.
    Hugging random strangers and the atmosphere of Swan St after the game and long into the night.
    Learnt
    That as a long suffering Richmond supporter who said he would never go to a GF until RIchmond made it (mainly because I never wanted to deprive a real fan of a seat), that it was the best day of my life. (and yes I have children)
    Australian Rules Football is the greatest sport on earth.
    Hated
    Hated seeing a loser. Spoke to many Crows fans before the game and at half time and said that if we had to lose to a club, then I would be glad it would be to them for all the heartache they went through with Phil Walsh and Dean Bailey.

    Richmond, premiers 2017. I still simply cannot believe it.
     
  5. guruisatiger

    guruisatiger Norm Smith Medallist

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    B.S.C youngboys.. Borussia Dortmund
    Joined:
    Oct 06
    Posts:
    7,080
    Location:
    from the hinterlands of sri lanka and tibet
    I wasn't bored loved every second of it
     
    TigerMoz1973, dan_tiger and tigerwill like this.
  6. DrEvil_

    DrEvil_ Norm Smith Medallist

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Sep 14
    Posts:
    8,087
    To be fair there is no clear best team this year. Every team has looked pathetic at stages.
     
    Grockadoc likes this.
  7. EagleShore

    EagleShore Premiership Player

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Feb 12
    Posts:
    3,433
    Location:
    Perth
    Well it looks like the thread has been derailed (I know, a shock, right?) and I haven't read all of the rest of it to see if any of my thoughts have been covered, so here goes:

    Liked

    The Tiger army
    and the atmosphere they brought;

    Seeing Brendon Gale's reactions
    , especially when he reached across a few seats and embraced Michael and their Mother;

    Richmond winning it after a fair drought
    ...I got into footy around the early-mid nineties and after the Eagles' era of dominance ended I always liked watching Richmond games for the atmosphere their crowd brought and the players such as Richo at the time. Shoot me...I like footy and as devastated as I am that the Eagles are not very relevant at the moment, I am secure enough to allow myself to enjoy the glory of other teams, especially when there is a compelling story behind it.

    Learnt

    Relentless pressure applied by a psychologically in-tune team of fleet-footed players who can cleanly pick up a ground ball, led by a few elite players in key positions, is the way to win the modern game. There's echoes of the Bulldogs with their pressure game, lack of tall forwards, and a drive provided by some unique bond that has developed within the club at the right time.

    Psychology in this sport plays a huge role in success or failure, and while you cannot manufacture a strong culture according to some blueprint, the relationships within a club seem to be increasingly important in what has become a more robotic and economically-driven industry over the past 10-15 years.

    Hated

    BigFooty seems to have become overrun with people who hate, rather than love, this game.

    You have to remember, victory for your club down the track would never be as sweet if the competition were not to have their time in the sun. Why people cannot seem to enjoy this kind of thing annoys me...obviously I'm not referring to fans of Adelaide (or the Swans supporters from last year). I enjoyed seeing Hardwick's untamed smile, the tears from Richo and others, the passion from the fans, the opening up by Bachar and others about what they felt made the difference in their season, Jack going berserk...

    By all means criticise, but the hatred is astounding and frankly unwarranted on such a large scale. It is a lament I have for the world in general. Hate and opposition to your fellow man instead of recognising and celebrating differences and achievements.

    Like humanity, the game will always evolve; both would frankly be boring if they didn't.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2017
  8. tigerwill

    tigerwill Premiership Player

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Mar 08
    Posts:
    3,039
    Miscommunication? Well perhaps you'd better check what you write before you post. You stated "vfl". I replied. It was only when numbnuts jumped and called me a flog, that I suggested he re-read the conversation.

    Anyway the topic is about the 2017 premiership, like, learn or hate. Let's leave the other crap and grievances out of it.
     
  9. kranky al

    kranky al Norm Smith Medallist

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    east perth www.pixelpac.com.au
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    7,770
    Location:
    Greenough
    Enjoy your first!!!


    Afl cherry popped!!
     
  10. tugga

    tugga Brownlow Medallist

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Tottenham Hotspur
    Joined:
    May 06
    Posts:
    27,512
    Location:
    Yid army
    Well said.
    So many people these days who are not happy just want to see other people unhappy simply for no other reason than selfishness.
    And that doesn't just apply to footy either.
     
  11. Helen Wheels

    Helen Wheels Hustler

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies
    Joined:
    Jun 15
    Posts:
    14,195
    Location:
    Demimonde
    The AFL is based on the VFL, not the WAFL.
     

    (Log in to remove this ad.)

  12. Billy Scott

    Billy Scott Draftee

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Sep 15
    Posts:
    13
    Liked: That the long wait is finally over

    Learnt: That a Premiership hang over can occur within days of the event

    Hated: returning to normality.
     
  13. Grockadoc

    Grockadoc Moderator

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies, Man Utd, Cavaliers
    Joined:
    Jul 08
    Posts:
    15,610
    Location:
    Geelong
    Remind me how the eagles travel?
     
    sanke likes this.
  14. Grockadoc

    Grockadoc Moderator

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies, Man Utd, Cavaliers
    Joined:
    Jul 08
    Posts:
    15,610
    Location:
    Geelong

    Do you realise based purely on home games that an average interstate side such as yourself have an easier road to make finals than an average melbourne based side? Stop talking about leg ups. Interstate sides have a bigger leg up over Melbourne based sides during the season by virtue of having 10 true home games whereas most Melbourne sides have 7 at most. Suck it up.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2017
  15. Helen Wheels

    Helen Wheels Hustler

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies
    Joined:
    Jun 15
    Posts:
    14,195
    Location:
    Demimonde
    IIRC, you weren't forced at gunpoint to join the competition. You came begging.
     
  16. mickctiger

    mickctiger Club Legend

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Richmond
    Joined:
    Feb 04
    Posts:
    1,286
    Location:
    some where near punt road
    OK, let's get a few facts straight.
    Richmond now have 11 premierships, that's what all the history books will say as of now.
    Secondly, Geelong chose to play at least some of their home games at the MCG, you can't pick and choose where you play home games during the H&A season, then complain when the AFL picks and chooses where you play your "home" finals.
    As for the other complaints about the Tiges, suck it up, the Richmond Football Club are the 2017 Premiers.
     
  17. kranky al

    kranky al Norm Smith Medallist

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    east perth www.pixelpac.com.au
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    7,770
    Location:
    Greenough
    Lol


    BEgging to bail you out


    You flogtrumpets were busted arse broke.

    You desperately needed our coin.

    A private company - indian pacific formed the eagles

    Nice revisionism though
     
  18. kranky al

    kranky al Norm Smith Medallist

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    east perth www.pixelpac.com.au
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    7,770
    Location:
    Greenough
    So figure out a true home game as a +1

    A true interstate away game as a -1

    And a derby as a neutral 0

    Add up an interstaters season and what do you get

    Pretty close to zero right?

    Just 50000km cramped in airplanes and away from home.


    Now use this same formula for melbourne clubs.

    Tack a few thousand km for travel and tell me whos got an advantage?
     
  19. Grockadoc

    Grockadoc Moderator

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies, Man Utd, Cavaliers
    Joined:
    Jul 08
    Posts:
    15,610
    Location:
    Geelong
    I said home games. You mention away games. Nice deflection. If you do not believe interstate sides have a leg up during the H+A season in regards to home games you are massively, massively deluded. Hell, even one of your fellow Eagles fans agreed with that statement.
     
  20. Helen Wheels

    Helen Wheels Hustler

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Fighting Furies
    Joined:
    Jun 15
    Posts:
    14,195
    Location:
    Demimonde
    Winners write history. Losers engage in revisionism.
     
  21. mickctiger

    mickctiger Club Legend

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Richmond
    Joined:
    Feb 04
    Posts:
    1,286
    Location:
    some where near punt road
    There's more salt here than there is the dead sea
     
  22. Joey longshadow

    Joey longshadow Club Legend

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Baltimore ravens
    Joined:
    Oct 15
    Posts:
    1,221
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Speaking as a Victorian.. I couldn't give a rats arse
    Putting myself in interstate supporters shoes... Yep I can well understand your frustration with the GF being played at the G
    However as you are aware a 30 year deal has been signed... But even if it hadn't.... You would still not be getting GF's simply because non of the other AFL states have a stadium that can seat 100,000 ...and the AFL and the corporates will never back the amount of money that would be lost with a minimum of 20'000 less fans... Even at the MCG it isn't big enough as witnessed by all the tigers fans who couldn't get tickets.... On top of that S.A. and W.A will never build 100,000 seat stadiums because for most of the usage they would be half empty
    ....i understand your frustration... But there is no solution ...
    Also I don't buy into this it's such an unfair disadvantage for interstate teams when you consider 01... Lions.. 02.... Lions...03... Lions... 04..Port ...05...Swans...06....Eagles... Those teams won... So maybe your interstate teams need to harden the f@#k up they are mentally fragile

    By the way we Vics hated that era... Know what our teams did about it.... Got better....
     
  23. Fabes

    Fabes Team Captain

    Hawthorn
    Other teams:
    Joined:
    Jan 15
    Posts:
    525
    That bloke Al, you know... the Kranky one? I'm worried he has high blood pressure :(

    Who would have thought an awesome premiership win based on effort, heart, hunting in numbers and determination would get someone's panties so knotted! Especially when the losing team isn't even the one that person supports!!

    Liked: Richmond Premiership win
    Hated: A mediocre effort from Adelaide due to amazing Richmond pressure brings out the haters re: interstate grand final teams and MCG advantage blah blah farking blah!
    Learned: That Kranky bloke either needs to not wear underwear so that they don't get twisted in knots or he needs to take some pills for his blood pressure.
     
    tugga likes this.
  24. Nostradumbass

    Nostradumbass BigFooty Legend

    Richmond
    Other teams:
    Everton FC, Williamstown FC.
    Joined:
    Oct 07
    Posts:
    33,781
    Location:
    Tannhäuser Gate
    So good. Keep it coming I say.
     
    Elton Johns Wig likes this.
  25. kranky al

    kranky al Norm Smith Medallist

    West Coast
    Other teams:
    east perth www.pixelpac.com.au
    Joined:
    Jun 09
    Posts:
    7,770
    Location:
    Greenough
    For every home game that theres an advantage

    Theres an away game that neutralises that advantage.

    Where as you guys leave the state a coupla times a season and host interstaters more