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Heard some interesting stuff in the last few weeks about how our half forwards have been instructed to play.

(From a father of a young player).

Basically the role of a half forward is to protect and release the midfielders like tay adams, pendles etc. Specifically at centre clearances and stoppages forward of center.

Is it just me or is that stupidest f***ing thing youve ever heard?? Shouldnt a half forward be instructed to be creative, and use their footy smarts ?? Shouldnt the midfield be releasing the half forwards?!?!? When u hear stuff like that u can understand our impotence forward of centre - also why collingwood is where it is atm
 
Heard some interesting stuff in the last few weeks about how our half forwards have been instructed to play.

(From a father of a young player).

Basically the role of a half forward is to protect and release the midfielders like tay adams, pendles etc. Specifically at centre clearances and stoppages forward of center.

Is it just me or is that stupidest f***ing thing youve ever heard?? Shouldnt a half forward be instructed to be creative, and use their footy smarts ?? Shouldnt the midfield be releasing the half forwards?!?!? When u hear stuff like that u can understand our impotence forward of centre - also why collingwood is where it is atm

When i read shit like that.. it makes me think.. either I'm insane and i dont get.. or the man in charge is.. either way.. one of us is.
 

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Heard some interesting stuff in the last few weeks about how our half forwards have been instructed to play.

(From a father of a young player).

Basically the role of a half forward is to protect and release the midfielders like tay adams, pendles etc. Specifically at centre clearances and stoppages forward of center.

Is it just me or is that stupidest f***ing thing youve ever heard?? Shouldnt a half forward be instructed to be creative, and use their footy smarts ?? Shouldnt the midfield be releasing the half forwards?!?!? When u hear stuff like that u can understand our impotence forward of centre - also why collingwood is where it is atm
It really depends on the context of the instruction. It makes enormous sense that at stoppages in the attacking part of the ground the best stoppage and clearance players are afforded the chance to do their work by team mates blocking and creating space at the balldrop and this is often the role of the 5-6 forward (high half forward or defensive wingman). It makes no sense in transition as you want the forward being exactly that. This is a concept that is becoming prevalent even in rep junior footy.
 
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Well at least I know where Hardwick gets his press conference lines from
"We're four rounds into a long season. We just need to keep our eye on the ball and we haven't beaten Melbourne for the last three years, so that'll certainly be my focus."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-16/secondtier-tigers-get-the-job-done-for-dimma
 
It really depends on the context of the instruction. It makes enormous sense that at stoppages in the attacking part of the ground the best stoppage and clearance players are afforded the chance to do their work by team mates blocking and creating space at the balldrop and this is often the role of the 5-6 forward (high half forward or defensive wingman). It makes no sense in transition as you want the forward being exactly that. This is a concept that is becoming prevalent even in rep junior footy.
Makes a lot of sense actually about the way we play. Our half forwards do get sucked up the ground and aren't there to receive at the turnover. It happened s lot v the dogs in round one and the saints yesterday

Not just our half forwards though. How many times this year have we got the all at the wing or on half back looked up and there was no one home. Moore and White been caught down the ground nany times already so then we stop prop switch and turnover.
 
I just don't understand why the pressure isn't forthcoming in the media?

No heat is being applied whatsoever.
The hawks have helped
 
Clarko isn't under any pressure to save his job though.

It's as if he's a media darling is Bucks.

Any other coach would have been whacked a long time ago.
With the hawks it about there fall so far this year not many thought they would fall to where they are
Cannot make every day about bucks,
 
Heard some interesting stuff in the last few weeks about how our half forwards have been instructed to play.

(From a father of a young player).

Basically the role of a half forward is to protect and release the midfielders like tay adams, pendles etc. Specifically at centre clearances and stoppages forward of center.

Is it just me or is that stupidest f***ing thing youve ever heard?? Shouldnt a half forward be instructed to be creative, and use their footy smarts ?? Shouldnt the midfield be releasing the half forwards?!?!? When u hear stuff like that u can understand our impotence forward of centre - also why collingwood is where it is atm
What. The. F.
 
With the hawks it about there fall so far this year not many thought they would fall to where they are
Cannot make every day about bucks,

Aren't making any day about him at the moment.

He's walking around with no accountability for what he is producing.

All I hear is ridiculous statements from Gerard Whateley about re-signing him in the "hope" he comes good.
6yrs not a big enough sample size?
 

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Aren't making any day about him at the moment.

He's walking around with no accountability for what he is producing.

All I hear is ridiculous statements from Gerard Whateley about re-signing him in the "hope" he comes good.
6yrs not a big enough sample size?
I get that you are angry, as pies supporters are, but the media has 17 other teams to talk about
And quiet thankly l do not want to hear it 24/7 and nor do other fans.
The afl is just not all a bout Collingwood. The blow torch will come soon enough if we keep preforming like that.
 
Can Gary Pert just seriously STFU?!

We don't need you to defend and suggest our pick up in Mayne will be "vindicated" when it's clear he isn't in our best 22 and is just about finished as a footballer.
$2m over 4yrs- I can see why you want to vindicate but just stop.

He then goes on to talk about finals and that it is still realistic.
Every time this guy opens his mouth it's so far fetched from reality that it is embarrassing.

Let's hope he has the balls to make the tough call to sack the coach and "speak his mind" then.

Pert talks a lot of Shit
 
I get that you are angry, as pies supporters are, but the media has 17 other teams to talk about
And quiet thankly l do not want to hear it 24/7 and nor do other fans.
The afl is just not all a bout Collingwood. The blow torch will come soon enough if we keep preforming like that.

It's not anger, it's disbelief in this area.

It's not all about Collingwood yet we get stories written about frisbees, dogs, injury lists etc yet the biggest issue at the moment and no journalist has the balls to apply the blowtorch on the coach and challenge him and his lack of system.

I find it staggering.
 
Heard some interesting stuff in the last few weeks about how our half forwards have been instructed to play.

(From a father of a young player).

Basically the role of a half forward is to protect and release the midfielders like tay adams, pendles etc. Specifically at centre clearances and stoppages forward of center.

Is it just me or is that stupidest f***ing thing youve ever heard?? Shouldnt a half forward be instructed to be creative, and use their footy smarts ?? Shouldnt the midfield be releasing the half forwards?!?!? When u hear stuff like that u can understand our impotence forward of centre - also why collingwood is where it is atm
What is the role of the forward pockets? To protect the half forwards protecting the mids so they can be released?!

What's wrong with a see-ball get-ball kick-goal strategy in the forward line?!! The more successful players seem to get by quite comfortably by swishing around, swooping on the ball and kicking goals. Forwards are generally encouraged to attack the goals in an offensive manner, rather than provide the front line of defence in the forward zone.

No wonder we don't seem bothered about recruiting a genuine small forward when all we want is defenders at both ends of the ground.
 
It's not anger, it's disbelief in this area.

It's not all about Collingwood yet we get stories written about frisbees, dogs, injury lists etc yet the biggest issue at the moment and no journalist has the balls to apply the blowtorch on the coach and challenge him and his lack of system.

I find it staggering.

Because it's a Boring Story
 

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It's not anger, it's disbelief in this area.

It's not all about Collingwood yet we get stories written about frisbees, dogs, injury lists etc yet the biggest issue at the moment and no journalist has the balls to apply the blowtorch on the coach and challenge him and his lack of system.

I find it staggering.
Wayne Carey says he's gone! History. Will not coach next year. Source: Footy Classified
 
It's not anger, it's disbelief in this area.

It's not all about Collingwood yet we get stories written about frisbees, dogs, injury lists etc yet the biggest issue at the moment and no journalist has the balls to apply the blowtorch on the coach and challenge him and his lack of system.

I find it staggering.
They are not smelling blood yet, but when they do they will apply the blow torch
Wayne Carey says he's gone! History. Will not coach next year. Source: Footy Classified
did he say who will
 
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