List Mgmt. The 2019 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Snake_Baker]

it is very 2019 Left wing PC point of view.

Everyone is a winner and if you are a loser you may identify as a winner anyway

My point is............how can you determine a "winner" now?

 

[Russian Demon]

it is very 2019 Left wing PC point of view.

Everyone is a winner and if you are a loser you may identify as a winner anyway

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Not quite. Its more based in game theory. If all trades are equitable, the team that performs more of these trades has an advantage over the field. As it turns out, the benefits of pissing off all your trading partners by trying to gain the single advantage of 1 unequitable trade is outweighed by the lost opportunities of equitable ones with everyone else. Anyone who has played Settlers of Catan will know what I mean.

But yeah... snowflake, leftie, participation trophy. Is it hard work being a grumpy boomer all of the time?

 

[Demon bhoy]

Here's how it works:

1) Melbourne are getting what THEY want NOW.
2) North are getting what THEY want NOW.


There's a myriad of respective variable factors at play for both parties, and no trade can ever be viewed from a level starting point, due to the fact that no two clubs are ever in the exact same list balance & development phase.

How it all plays out mostly depends upon blind luck. No football club can read the future.

This fact appears to be beyond the conceptual understanding of the average blinkered dullard.

Luck your here to help us work our way through this then

 

[Bluelegs]

it is very 2019 Left wing PC point of view.

Everyone is a winner and if you are a loser you may identify as a winner anyway

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Ridiculous. The statement has nothing to do with PC.

 

[Demon bhoy]

it is very 2019 Left wing PC point of view.

Everyone is a winner and if you are a loser you may identify as a winner anyway

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Medals for everyone cause you tried you best

 

[markm106]

Any credibility to the rumour we use one of our picks to go after the Smear?

I think it was mainly raised as a thing Melbourne should do rather than a rumour. Would make sense for us but seems very unlikely IMO.

 

[Tulip]

I was asked not to post. But check the player we would least want in the top 20.

So why did you post lol

 

[markm106]

Interesting that we mustn’t have leaked anything re the north pick swap. Not one mention of it prior. Maybe JM has something else cooking other than giants pick 6 and 2020 first rounder.

 

[Cannon82]

It's supercoach moron level thinking to conclude anything else.

So the Mitch Clark trade a few years back. Melbourne winners?

 

[PrinceCharles]

So if a trade goes ahead, everyone are clear winners because they agreed to the trade. That's a very Soccer Mum mentality.

it is very 2019 Left wing PC point of view.

Everyone is a winner and if you are a loser you may identify as a winner anyway

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Congrats, you're top two on my list of people who have missed the point by so far they may as well be reading the other side of their phone, for today.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Any credibility to the rumour we use one of our picks to go after the Smear?

Not really. No doubt we will have a dip if it falls over late, but highly unlikely.

Dees are scheduled for at least 3 meetings today I’m hearing.

 

[Cannon82]

My point is............how can you determine a "winner" now?

Yes, calling a winner now is speculative at best. That doesn't mean trades are win-win though, so rather than say "they agreed to the trade, ergo it is win-win", you should probably have said "we'll see how it all plays out". If you really feel like proving your point, feel free to dig this thread up in 5 years.

 

[Cannon82]

Congrats, you're top two on my list of people who have missed the point by so far they may as well be reading the other side of their phone, for today.

Very informative.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Yes, calling a winner now is speculative at best. That doesn't mean trades are win-win though, so rather than say "they agreed to the trade, ergo it is win-win", you should probably have said "we'll see how it all plays out". If you really feel like proving your point, feel free to dig this thread up in 5 years.

If I’m still on this hell site in five years just end me honestly

 

[Cannon82]

If I’m still on this hell site in five years just end me honestly

It would be my pleasure! You've already been around for six - can we back date the five years?

 

[blitznu]

So the Mitch Clark trade a few years back. Melbourne winners?

Which 1 getting him or leaving?

 

[Cannon82]

Which 1 getting him or leaving?

Are the two events unrelated? Bloke was a headcase and that deal was always destined to go pear-shaped.

 

[PrinceCharles]

Very informative.

Thanks

 

[blitznu]

Are the two events unrelated? Bloke was a headcase and that deal was always destined to go pear-shaped.

Didnt most think it was a massive win getting him and beating freo at the last minute. But yeah it was a lose but at the start was seen as a win. Point is who gives a **** if people think a trade is a win or lose like you said no campaigner knows for 5 years anyway. The Hogan trade every sooking campaigner saying we lost that he could continue to party it up, **** his foot more and retire this year who wins the trade then?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yes, calling a winner now is speculative at best. That doesn't mean trades are win-win though, so rather than say "they agreed to the trade, ergo it is win-win", you should probably have said "we'll see how it all plays out". If you really feel like proving your point, feel free to dig this thread up in 5 years.

Really? How about Wayne Schwass & Shannon Grant?

Nobody knows right now as to how this is going to turn out mate.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Pick 3 for GWS Pick 6 and future first coming in hot.

 

[blitznu]

Really? How about Wayne Schwass & Shannon Grant?

Nobody knows right now as to how this is going to turn out mate.

How bout Tyson and Preuss? North needed an extra mid we needed a back up ruckman was a win-win. Oh wait they are both dog shit.
Nah both could turn it around and be serviceable

 

[Snake_Baker]

How bout Tyson and Preuss? North needed an extra mid we needed a back up ruckman was a win-win. Oh wait they are both dog shit.
Nah both could turn it around and be serviceable

I'm not writing off Dom by any stretch.

As for Braydon, the Dees have to get to a position where he can play the second forward/ruck role consistently. It's more about a team balance thing with him.

 

[blitznu]

Pick 3 for GWS Pick 6 and future first coming in hot.

Surely we rate 3-8 roughly the same so 3 to 6 isnt that bad.

 

[Topkent]

So why did you post lol

Because I'm not trustworthy