All-Round Good Guy
- Jun 24, 2011
- AFL Club
- Other Teams
- Panionios, Hellas
There would likely be a re organisation of the leagues so those who wish to enter the 2nd division could (and some sides would already have money behind them when this would be to come through). They idea of a more regional comp would slash the costs but may affect the ability to get a proper broadcast deal and comp wide sponsorship revenue (although you may be able to find 3-4 sponsors paying the same amount within their specific markets e.g. retra vision in wa)I doubt anything close to all NPL clubs could afford to fly and accommodate their players and coaches as a matter of course.
Good luck trying to terminate the rest of their 3 year contract under the pretense of force majeure. At most it will free them from their obligations for the duration of any period where competition was not possible. They'll be laughed out of court with a huge legal bill to pay. They are better off negotiating a payout to the A League out of court if they dont want to continue.Fox Sports’ multi-million dollar roadblock to A-League restart | The World Game
Updated Updated 21 hours ago
By Dave Lewis
All the dominoes are in place for a long-awaited resumption in a NSW hub format featuring 32 games in 36 games - with an August 22 grand final.
However, Fox Sports - according to reliable club sources - won’t sanction a return to action until the FFA agree to accept a funding package worth up to 50 per cent less annually than the existing $57.6 million a year commitment to the code.
There are three years left on the six-year agreement with the game’s long-time partner, meaning the FFA are being asked to wear a loss of revenue of around $86 million.
Questions had been raised over why A-League clubs were awaiting permission to resume training whilst the National Rugby League kicks off again tomorrow, after its own COVID-19 interruption.
The answer - it appears - has now been revealed, with Fox Sports playing hard ball with the ruling body.
Fox Sports’ parent company Foxtel is $2 billion in the red, and recently slashed 250 jobs with further redundancies looming, as subscribers ditch the pay-TV service for streaming alternatives.
The FFA are suffering the consequences of that downturn, with Fox Sports latching on to the loss of content during the coronavirus shutdown as a lever to revisit its 15-year relationship with the governing body.
Fox Sports has the right to terminate the existing deal by virtue of the A-League being off the grid since March 23, as a result of force majeure (unforeseen circumstances).
The broadcaster has been disenchanted for some time over falling viewing figures and diminishing attendances across the competition.
Its current stance - which some may construe as opportunistic - is likely to be a source of frustration at the FFA, who have reached an in-principle agreement with the players over payments, and the clubs over venues.
Stadiums in NSW - including Western Sydney Wanderers’ Bankwest Stadium have been booked - and health protocols are in place for a July 18 resumption.
The way the existing contract is structured, the FFA would be in breach - if they were resume unilaterally - and open to damage claims.
The ramifications of Fox Sports stalling on sanctioning a restart run deep, with existing club sponsorships dependent on the season being completed.
Both Fox Sports and the FFA declined to comment when contacted by The World Game.
A-League broadcaster Fox Sports is refusing to sign off on a plan to restart the competition by mid-July, unless Football Federation Australia accepts a radically re-negotiated rights deal.theworldgame.sbs.com.au
I Agree with you. What is the point if by the end of the current season we have no league to go back too.The whole thing has become a shambles and they should just cancel the season and focus on sorting this sh*t out.
It is honestly starting to look like amateur hour from all involved.
Thats all good but what about the exposure? the game is buried as it is further back in the papers and in the news cycles can't imagine how it will gain anything with the AFL/NRL as its direct competitor, sponsorships will fall because of the lack there of, TV exposure/ratings will be worse too those fans/members who are fans and members of both A-league/NRL/AFL will have to make choices and I will bet most will not be attending A-league matches. these issues and many more need to be considered.If it’s played in Winter;
- we compete with other rectangle field codes yes, but we aren’t competing with. Cricket, beaches and other social activities.
- we also wouldn’t have the problem of late night games on a school night due to heat.
- having a winter break would give us November for finals, FFA Cup and ACL.
- better quality surely on winter rather than in the heat of Summer.
- All levels aligned.
The more I think about it the more I think it would be a good idea.
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Sorry bdz, been biting my lip at just about every one of your posts but this time I'm gonna reply.
Television audiences? The amount of eye balls on the A-League will be even less in winter. By a long way. In every state during winter months everything is saturated with the other codes. Free to air, pay TV and online platforms. Even now when the A-League is in the summer months, we struggle for oxygen. It's still 6-7 pages back in the sports sections of papers. Even if I allow you in this argument that numbers will be the same in the A-League in terms of interest and viewing (which I don't but I will for the sake of argument), how do you expect the league to grow? How do you expect it to expand? And by that I mean expand the way it has in 15 years. Yes we are in a lull now, but the interest in the league is much bigger now than it was in 2004/5. Back then, people thought the Melbourne club would struggle out of all the new clubs! The whole reason why we were able to do things like sign Carlos Hernandez was based on the idea that we could actually have tangible growth. I don't like using anecdotes much, but I will in this case. Majority of people I know, follow both AFL and football. Split their choices up during winter, it's gonna be a bad time. You may say 'fu** those people' we need to go out on our own, but this has been tried before. It's history repeating itself mate.
But the growth thing man, it's so important. The ability to be able to adapt to situations when things get going. It's the reason why we moved from Olympic Park. That doesn't happen in winter. For obvious reasons. We don't have room to move, to be able to have clubs that can invest, and re-invest, year after year. Even now MVFC does well, but we can't even build an academy in this city. Now you think it will be good for us commercially if we pit ourselves against prime time AFL?
Every single thing we do in this sport has to take into account the specific cultural context we are in. This is why various administrators of football over decades and decades have mulled over this and have always ended up landing on summer, for that very reason. We are already starved of attention and the corporate dollar that makes it all tick. Companies will not invest in things that don't have eye balls. It's that simple. Moving the league to winter would be nothing short of a disaster.
On the topic of a 2nd division, pro-rel and all that. Man, I just don't know anymore. I think a 2nd div is obviously a good idea, if executed well, but if it's just a souped-up NPL what is the point exactly? Who will invest in something that no one watches? Take the best and biggest NPL clubs, and look at their capitalisation. They struggle. Increase their spends by being part of a national league in winter, who will pay for it? I hate being a f*n realist, but at the end of the day money drives these things. It is literally the way things happen in all sports. We just happen to be sh*t out of luck in this country for a multitude of reasons when it comes to money and getting first dibs to it. We don't have the population, let alone the facilities. Aside from a handful of NPL clubs, we don't even have adequate stadiums. Then there is the cultural layer. People in Australia just aren't interested in 2nd tier sports. Mate, I was going to NSL games in the 90s and 00's. Yes there were some good periods but a lot of that was down to cultural milieu at the time, kids of migrants, perfect storm etc. Now the kids of migrants have their own kids, and they are assimilated. Even South v Knights these days barely gets 5000 people. It's just the way it is.
We can either have ambitions to be bigger and grow as best we can, or we can lower the bar. Lowering the bar means moving to winter, it means less investors in the game, it means less media interest. It means we are prepared to just accept being a niche hobby. I'm personally not up for that.
I'm up for this -
I say all this with a very heavy heart. I wish we had the context that would allow for a fully fledged football pyramid that would prosper and grow in the way us football nuts want it to. Like it does in other parts of the world. It would be wonderful. Perfect for us football romantics. But to me, and maybe it's cos I'm a bit jaded and old now, just can't happen in the short and medium terms. Mind you, as I said just before, I just don't know ... things could turn out really bad for football coming out of this pandemic. I hold my hand up and say right now, we are at a cross-roads once again and it could all turn to sh*t. But I like to think that James Johnson will come out of this a hero to the game. We need to build on what we have established the past 15 years, not throw it away.
Nothing personal to to you bdz, just my thoughts in general.