Society/Culture The Abortion Thread

(Log in to remove this ad.)

cartwright

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Posts
6,193
Likes
5,531
Location
here
AFL Club
St Kilda
More like I'm for not killing something for a mistake in the heat of the moment.

Getting to sit at the adult table of life comes with responsibilities.
no. You're willing to simplify a complex, difficult and personal decision down to what you call an "inconvenience".

I'm simplifying your position to you are in favour of forced pregnancies.
 

FireKraquora

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jul 5, 2011
Posts
6,167
Likes
9,453
AFL Club
Collingwood
Unless all these legislators fall into a volcano simultaneously, a black market of backyard abortions will emerge where women will die.
I don't agree with how strict this particular bill is, but you make it sound as if there isn't another way for these hypothetical women... like using contraception, the morning after pill, or having a termination within 6 weeks. Expecting personal responsibility is so unfair!
 
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Posts
34,524
Likes
27,367
AFL Club
GWS
I don't agree with how strict this particular bill is, but you make it sound as if there isn't another way for these hypothetical women... like using contraception, the morning after pill, or having a termination within 6 weeks. Expecting personal responsibility is so unfair!
The Alabama law has no 6 weeks provision. This pro life floggery is nothing more than virtue signalling, considering the US has worst maternal mortality stats in the developed world, and these states would be below the national standards.

In terms of contraception, the federal Govt wants to limit women's access to it
 
Joined
Jul 16, 2009
Posts
35,821
Likes
35,846
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Fremantle
Moderator #832
no. You're willing to simplify a complex, difficult and personal decision down to what you call an "inconvenience".

I'm simplifying your position to you are in favour of forced pregnancies.
And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.
 
Joined
Dec 1, 1999
Posts
73,422
Likes
43,456
Location
Brisbane
AFL Club
Carlton
Admin #834
Can you demonstrate that? The stats I have on why abortions are used are overwhelmingly for lifestyle, financial or otherwise inconvenient reasons. They don't specify how it started though.

We really need to find out who is selling this contraception to African Americans, because that must be some dodgy stuff.

Or maybe they are claiming the failure and the culture of raw dogging is all a myth.
About half according to these studies:

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-rel...-report-using-contraception-month-they-became
 

Run n Spread

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Apr 2, 2013
Posts
7,479
Likes
5,156
AFL Club
Collingwood
And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.
My belief = Life does not begin at conception so it is not a human life. So abort away. If that makes me pro choice/abortion so be it. Where human life and rights begin I honestly don't know. But it is not just to force someone to carry or be a parent against their will.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

cartwright

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Posts
6,193
Likes
5,531
Location
here
AFL Club
St Kilda
And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.
Nah. I’m in favour of a person deciding their medical decisions and having rights over their body - not the state. It’s a very simple thing.

You, are in favour of forced pregnancies.
 

FireKraquora

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jul 5, 2011
Posts
6,167
Likes
9,453
AFL Club
Collingwood
You often post videos without adding any text. In the past hour you've done so in three different threads. Can you please write a summary of the vids, or provide some sort of info about them? I'm sure if I spammed RW vids across the board that you wouldn't bother clicking on them, at least without some idea of their content.
 
Joined
Jul 16, 2009
Posts
35,821
Likes
35,846
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Fremantle
Moderator #839
Nah. I’m in favour of a person deciding their medical decisions and having rights over their body - not the state. It’s a very simple thing.

You, are in favour of forced pregnancies.
The rights to your body end as soon as it impacts someone else, which in my opinion it does.

When does life begin?
 

cartwright

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Jun 7, 2007
Posts
6,193
Likes
5,531
Location
here
AFL Club
St Kilda
The rights to your body end as soon as it impacts someone else, which in my opinion it does.

When does life begin?
No it does not.
A embryo or fetus doesn’t survive without the body.

And if this backwards hick law that you support to force pregnancies had the same thought it would include ivf wouldn’t it?
Except it doesn’t.
 
Joined
Jul 16, 2009
Posts
35,821
Likes
35,846
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Fremantle
Moderator #846
No it does not.
A embryo or fetus doesn’t survive without the body.

And if this backwards hick law that you support to force pregnancies had the same thought it would include ivf wouldn’t it?
Except it doesn’t.
A baby born doesn't survive outside the body either, humans aren't able to survive independently for years. What has that got to do with it?
 
Top Bottom