Society/Culture The Abortion Thread

[its free real estate]

If you’re aghast at the Alabaman law and not third trimester abortions your priorities are all wrong.

 

[cartwright]

More like I'm for not killing something for a mistake in the heat of the moment.

Getting to sit at the adult table of life comes with responsibilities.

no. You're willing to simplify a complex, difficult and personal decision down to what you call an "inconvenience".

I'm simplifying your position to you are in favour of forced pregnancies.

 

[its free real estate]

virtue signalling

vIrTuE sIgNaLlInG

 

[FireKrakouer]

Unless all these legislators fall into a volcano simultaneously, a black market of backyard abortions will emerge where women will die.

I don't agree with how strict this particular bill is, but you make it sound as if there isn't another way for these hypothetical women... like using contraception, the morning after pill, or having a termination within 6 weeks. Expecting personal responsibility is so unfair!

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I don't agree with how strict this particular bill is, but you make it sound as if there isn't another way for these hypothetical women... like using contraception, the morning after pill, or having a termination within 6 weeks. Expecting personal responsibility is so unfair!

The Alabama law has no 6 weeks provision. This pro life floggery is nothing more than virtue signalling, considering the US has worst maternal mortality stats in the developed world, and these states would be below the national standards.

In terms of contraception, the federal Govt wants to limit women's access to it

 

[FireKrakouer]

In terms of contraception, the federal Govt wants to limit women's access to it

Yikes. I agree with the left that contraception should be widely available and affordable. Pushing for abstinence as the only option is unrealistic and unfair.

 

[Taylor]

no. You're willing to simplify a complex, difficult and personal decision down to what you call an "inconvenience".

I'm simplifying your position to you are in favour of forced pregnancies.

And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.

 

[Pie eyed]

I'll be avoiding the inbred god bothered state of Alabama when in the US next March.
Not that I was going there anyway.

 

[Chief]

Can you demonstrate that? The stats I have on why abortions are used are overwhelmingly for lifestyle, financial or otherwise inconvenient reasons. They don't specify how it started though.

We really need to find out who is selling this contraception to African Americans, because that must be some dodgy stuff.

Or maybe they are claiming the failure and the culture of raw dogging is all a myth.

About half according to these studies:

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-rel...-report-using-contraception-month-they-became

 

[Bomberboyokay]

 

[Run n Spread]

And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.

My belief = Life does not begin at conception so it is not a human life. So abort away. If that makes me pro choice/abortion so be it. Where human life and rights begin I honestly don't know. But it is not just to force someone to carry or be a parent against their will.

 

[cartwright]

And you're in favour of ending human life.

Or you are playing the same game as those who have racial superiority beliefs and deciding what form of human life is of higher value.

Can cut both ways.

It's a very simple thing. If you don't think it's a human life you're ending then there's no issues, but if you do then it's a problem.

I'm willing to have my mind changed on when human life begins.

Nah. I’m in favour of a person deciding their medical decisions and having rights over their body - not the state. It’s a very simple thing.

You, are in favour of forced pregnancies.

 

[FireKrakouer]

You often post videos without adding any text. In the past hour you've done so in three different threads. Can you please write a summary of the vids, or provide some sort of info about them? I'm sure if I spammed RW vids across the board that you wouldn't bother clicking on them, at least without some idea of their content.

 

[Taylor]

Nah. I’m in favour of a person deciding their medical decisions and having rights over their body - not the state. It’s a very simple thing.

You, are in favour of forced pregnancies.

The rights to your body end as soon as it impacts someone else, which in my opinion it does.

When does life begin?

 

[GreyWind]

The rights to your body end as soon as it impacts someone else, which in my opinion it does.

When does life begin?

Interesting concept. What's your definition of impact?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Interesting concept. What's your definition of impact?

Don't waste your time with her. Lots of doublespeak.

 

[ep2018]

The worst part of the new laws is that doctors are required by law to report miscarriages to law enforcement, the woman may be charged with manslaughter. Very scary indeed.

 

[cartwright]

The rights to your body end as soon as it impacts someone else, which in my opinion it does.

When does life begin?

No it does not.
A embryo or fetus doesn’t survive without the body.

And if this backwards hick law that you support to force pregnancies had the same thought it would include ivf wouldn’t it?
Except it doesn’t.

 

[Taylor]

Interesting concept. What's your definition of impact?

Damaging or destroying would fit the bill.

I don't think anyone has a right to end the life of another, especially when they aren't threatening your life.

 

[cartwright]

The worst part of the new laws is that doctors are required by law to report miscarriages to law enforcement, the woman may be charged with manslaughter. Very scary indeed.

Jesus...
As I said pure evil.

 

[Taylor]

No it does not.
A embryo or fetus doesn’t survive without the body.

And if this backwards hick law that you support to force pregnancies had the same thought it would include ivf wouldn’t it?
Except it doesn’t.

A baby born doesn't survive outside the body either, humans aren't able to survive independently for years. What has that got to do with it?

 

[Taylor]

Don't waste your time with her. Lots of doublespeak.

It must twist your nuts that I'm the one arguing against the cultural genocide of so many black people.

 

[GreyWind]

Damaging or destroying would fit the bill.

I don't think anyone has a right to end the life of another, especially when they aren't threatening your life.

So it all comes down to when life starts for you?

 

[cartwright]

A baby born doesn't survive outside the body either, humans aren't able to survive independently for years. What has that got to do with it?

Oh... You can’t be this obtuse.

Nice you ignored the ivf bit too.

 

[Taylor]

So it all comes down to when life starts for you?

Absolutely. That's all this whole thing is.