Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
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The may be a perception in the media that it is because of racism, but there is going to be a growing portion who are doing it because of his personal antics and the way this whole saga has been managed. (AFL recent history is they screw up the management of every saga badly, Essendon, tanking, Sydney trading ban, etc).

The fact the media is running the story is no real shock to me, the media tow the AFL line badly, look back and see how the media handled the claims made by players in the past about wide spread recreational drug use and PED use by players, those who made the claims at the time were shouted down by the AFL and media that it was isolated, Akermanis was called a liar even with his comments about PEDs, yet history has shown us there is plenty of substance behind the claims. The AFL hates bad press more than anything else, they will try and twist anything into some sort of positive at all cost and comment on everything, when often the best thing to do is do nothing.

Whilst there are some who didn't like the war dance in the indigenous round, it had its place in that round and everyone should of moved on.
Move on to the Hawthorn match, firstly we have to accept there is bad blood between both clubs, not firstly over rivalry but over Buddy. Some might not want to boo a two time premiership player, so they look to another target, Goodes. He takes it personally and claims are made about racism, from there it has just got out of control. If nothing was said after the Hawthorn match it would of died down and everyone moved on and the war dance would be just a highlight clip, bit like Greg Inglis goanna crawl.
Yep, I think you've got some fair points. I certainly agree that a large portion of those booing are doing so for the novelty and have their own reasons. Having said that, it's time to move on.
 

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Alternatively, human decency kicks in and we make our own decisions to stop booing for now?
Look im not in disagreement that the booing should stop. It should stop because if this is his last year, he should be able to play his last games out with the crowds support for what he achieved in the game. It shouldnt stop because the dogooder talking heads like Caro, Wilson, Gill etc are telling people they are racist.
 

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The bottom line is this. Every action has a consequence, and they arent always pleasant ones. Sometimes your actions draw negative attention. If you act in a way that displeases your target audience you're going to get negative attention. Its the way things always have been.
what has he done to justify the constant negative attention at every match. please tell me?

and you may not agree that the undertones are racist, but that's the perception now up here in Sydney, and reports of this story overseas.

fans have been turning off the game because of the drug scandal, scheduling, the current state of play on the field, and the obvious conflicts between the governing of the game and the competition.

now the fans themselves are contributing to the negative headlines for all to associate with the game.
 
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Sorry, but you miss the point entirely.

The booing is perceived as being racially motivated. It doesn't matter if that's not why an individual does it; that's how it's perceived.

It's not about telling you how to think or how you can voice your disapproval. It's about human decency and stopping an activity that is regarded as racist.
Booing is a part of the fabric of the game....If Goodes can't deal with it, or his feelings are too precious, then he knows where the exit gate is.
 

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Ends up? He's been in politics for years, he just hasn't been elected yet. But if a bit of a song and dance and an orchestrated media shit storm earns your vote, more power to you. I'm sure having an Indigenous PM is a heart-warmingly progressive thing to do.
Goodes has generally been a fairly private person, just FYI. But yeah, he's been in politics for years...
He's a public figure. It comes with the territory of being an outspoken public figure. The onus is on him to cope with the territory or quit for his own mental health if thats the issue.
Wow, such an admirable stance. Deal with it or retire.
Quite pathetic really.
Yes, I heard Alan Jones read this on the radio this morning also.

Alan Jones. Miranda Devine. Andrew Bolt. There's some truly great Australians on the side of those booing. Be proud.
Don't forget Rita Panahi and Neil Mitchell.
 

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You won't stop it now ...Big wigs coming out and demanding people stop will only incite it more . pretty ignorant and dumb response from the sydney boss and AFL boss.
AFLPA have the same stance as well.

So it's basically the entire AFL community vs the fans.
 

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seriously I cant believe how an ex-captain of the club has considered packing his bags and going home and continues to play the victim mentality. I thought he was a leader or a role model. fair dinkum . its booing motivated by a variety of intentions, but seriously empower yourself Adam. It feels like he is the 13 year old girl
 

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what has he done to justify the constant negative attention at every match. please tell me?

and you may not agree that the undertones are racist, but that's the perception now up here in Sydney, and reports of this story overseas.

fans have been turning off the game because of the drug scandal, scheduling, the current state of play on the field, and the obvious conflicts between the governing of the game and the competition.

now the fans themselves are contributing to the negative headlines for all to associate with the game.
If you want to know why people dont like Adam you can just go and read the hundreds of posts of people telling you why. It continues because its now a game with him and it puts him off his game. Pretty simple even a left wing uni student should be able to understand it.
 

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Look im not in disagreement that the booing should stop. It should stop because if this is his last year, he should be able to play his last games out with the crowds support for what he achieved in the game. It shouldnt stop because the dogooder talking heads like Caro, Wilson, Gill etc are telling people they are racist.
Media types will always go for sensationalism. It's pretty disgusting but that's the state of media these days - everything is about circulation and clicks.

I'm glad people are starting to agree that enough is enough. You don't have to like the guy, but as a champion of the game he deserves a bit more respect in his last few games.
 

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Yes, I heard Alan Jones read this on the radio this morning also.

Alan Jones. Miranda Devine. Andrew Bolt. There's some truly great Australians on the side of those booing. Be proud.
of course they are. isn't this sort of belligerent behaviour how they made their king?
 

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Media types will always go for sensationalism. It's pretty disgusting but that's the state of media these days - everything is about circulation and clicks.

I'm glad people are starting to agree that enough is enough. You don't have to like the guy, but as a champion of the game he deserves a bit more respect in his last few games.
I agree.
 

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Booing is a part of the fabric of the game....If Goodes can't deal with it, or his feelings are too precious, then he knows where the exit gate is.
Sorry, that comment belongs on page 1 or 2 of this thread. It's a shallow thought and we've moved well past that point now.
 

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Ends up? He's been in politics for years, he just hasn't been elected yet. But if a bit of a song and dance and an orchestrated media shit storm earns your vote, more power to you. I'm sure having an Indigenous PM is a heart-warmingly progressive thing to do.
i dare say if he doesn't like boos and negative public opinion then politics is the last occupation on earth he should get into. imagine if tony abbott quit after beeing booed!
 

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No. Most racists are cowards and would never admit they are racists. In this case, they can cling/hide behind the "Goodes is a dickhead" excuse and mob mentality, and pretend they are not racist. When the reality is they can't handle his opinions on indigenous matters.
Lol. What if I told you I know of a couple of aboriginal people that boo him as well and loathe him... Is that also racist or are they excused due to color?
 

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Look im not in disagreement that the booing should stop. It should stop because if this is his last year, he should be able to play his last games out with the crowds support for what he achieved in the game. It shouldnt stop because the dogooder talking heads like Caro, Wilson, Gill etc are telling people they are racist.
Problem is it won't, or at least not for the right reasons. It's now about forcing people to tow the party line - you could stick a cardboard cut out of Goodes on an RC car and drive it around the ground and people will boo every time it gets near the ball. Fear of publicly being branded a racist by the PC element is a piss poor solution to the 'problem'.
 

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So the booing isn't racist but you prefer to make the blanketing assumption that the booing is because of the dance?

Wow...

Wrong on both accounts.

Firstly I never said the all the people who were booing were not racist. No doubt some where. It is naive to think otherwise. But putting things into perspective and considering the poll, I have not been there, but have seen some events and I believe the majority of the booing is not about race at all rather Goodes conduct and now other peoples conduct.

Secondly I have never made the blanket assumption is because of the dance. I am saying the dance was a threat to some like it or not. The fact of the matter is, and many other posters have said the same, that Goodes conduct on the field as well as ape gate and his handling of the girl, note I do not mention Eddie as that was fair game, was not totally done well and this has been added to the booing and probably the level of the booing. The war dance though in the aftermath has had an exponential effect to the booing though IMO and was a major catalyst if not the major catalyst.

It does not help Goodes AFLHQ sided with him rather than the crowd after the spear incident IMO. To be fair, and I am not singling Goodes out here because I think their are other players behind the scenes meddling with his honourable desires possibly, it does not help AFL HQ either nor puts some media personalities in a good light either IMO
 
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I've never actually come across someone who has admitted to being a racist.

Either they are too ashamed/cowardly to admit it, or too ignorant/stupid to admit it.

So I wouldn't know what a "true racist" would do. How do you know?

Maybe they are clever little buggers who deliberately don't target all aboriginal players so they can't be identified as true racists?
Have you stopped to think that the booing of Goodes has nothing to do with racism? I've yelled abuse at umpires on a consistent basis so am I racist as well considering I have some aboriginal heritage and considering they're white?
 
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Sorry, that comment belongs on page 1 or 2 of this thread. It's a shallow thought and we've moved well past that point now.
Sorry, the only shallow thought here, is the notion that all booing is racist!....And that all booing should be banned as a result of young Adam Goodes' perceptions & feelings.
 

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I support the right of people to boo at matches without being called racist. I support the right of people to have their own thoughts without being told they MUST be racist. Im sorry if that causes more grief to an AFL player, but said player may well have done some illadvised things that were part of it too.



Sure you have.



Never said it was important. I just find it fascinating that folks like you can denigrate people on the other side of the argument and think nothing of it.
You will not find me calling those booing racist. Nor will you find me saying they MUST be racist.

I made my assessment of those doing the booing and I gave a clear explanation of why.

I also explained why I think the booing should stop, again clearly outlining the reasons.
 

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Sorry, the only shallow thought here, is the notion that all booing is racist!....And that all booing should be banned as a result of young Adam Goodes' perceptions & feelings.
Who said that? I don't think anyone on here is talking about banning all booing.

Opposition fans have always booed and heckled players taking set shots, or in-game villains. By all means those that want to do that can.
 
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