Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

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GazzaRoo

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I never said anything about whiteness or national pride. The poster admitted that he hated Adam Goodes for standing up against racism and telling a few uncomfortable home truths (FACTS) about this country's history and current state.

It's not a contradiction to think this is a great country while admitting that there are troubling moments in our past that continue to reverberate and need addressing. Perhaps you struggle to hold two views at once but I don't.
It has nothing to do with 2 views. Racism exists in every country and culture around the world. That is no different in australia but to say a person is an awful human being because he doesn't think he should be ashamed of being a descendant of those who came before him is not on. By your thinking anyone whose fore fathers committed a crime must forever be named and shamed as the same. Never should we forget the wrongs of our past but in that we can never move forward if we keep throwing those mistakes into the faces of the new generations and of those generations to come.
 

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Pretty much this. Also interesting to note that Goodes never said the boos were racist. In fact last year he said he wasn't affected by it. Robbo, Pridham, and the rest of the media gang are the ones calling the boos racist.
If Adam Goodes came out in the media 2 days ago and said 'I disagree with my club president, old mate Robbo, Michael O'Loughlin, Lewis Jetta and the rest - I don't believe that booing me on the field is overtly racist', then this wouldn't be an issue would it..

He doesn't need to say it personally, he's got a PR team doing his labeling for him.
 
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Hes not special there. How many players have been called a f*wit by the crowd for acting the fool on a football field? So Mark Williams was treated the same as everyone else, yet Goodes is treated differently. Differently to every other black player in the AFL. At what point will you start to see that its not about colour? I know that goes against you desire to claim everyones a racist, but facts are facts.
Mate, you misread my post. I agree with you.
Willo incited the crowd, the crowd gave it back. Cause and effect stuff, similar to my belief about Goodes.
Buddy copped it because he was successful and a smart arse. Australian's don't warm to smart arses, unless they are in their side or taking 10 for at the MCG, then you can be the biggest piece of garbage on earth, nobody will care. Just the way Australian are.
71 indigenous players, 1 targeted. Not a race issue, initially. Potentially an element there now though.
 

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I agree that personally that I won't be booing Goodes anymore because he is obviously affected by it beyond the sporting arena. However I think there should be a clearer line as to what's acceptable behaviour and what's not. Either booing is acceptable or it's not. You don't change what's acceptable depending how many other people are booing or how frequently they are booing.

It's quite simple really my friend!

When someone cries out that it is hurting them & they would like it to stop, then that is about the right time to stop.

This was done about 8 weeks ago. Goodes said back then that it was affecting many of his friends & loved ones.

Some individuals, including Jordan Lewis:thumbsu: came out & said they clearly didn't like his treatment.

Others, Dermie:thumbsdown: have continued their own personal agendas in their dislike of Adam for what ever reason, & used that agenda to cross the line on why they think he shouldn't be upset by it, or that he should toughen up.

These people would NEVER speak like that to Adam's face.

Why doesn't Dermie perhaps speak to Adam about it.

Speaking of weak. Why can't Derm just cop it sweet from Rebecca Wilson when she has called him out for his stance on the matter?

If Adam Goodes is upset that it is affecting too many of the people he cares about, let alone himself, then his standing in the game alone should be enough to deserve the respect & that it's time to stop.

Now Dermie may have had very good reason as to why he really dislikes Adam, be it the slide against Gibson or the goal that snuffed out the Hawks in the 2012 GF on one leg, but even after seeing that he & Jetta were visibly shaken by it after the the West Coast game, the best thing he should have done would have been to zip it.
NO!
The self righteous one chose to push his agenda against Goodes/ The Swans, even further.

I take my hat of to Lewis. He is not afraid to speak out & also kudos to Matty Lloyd who has changed his stance on the matter after realising that it was clearly affecting people!
 
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Who said that? I don't think anyone on here is talking about banning all booing.
Your own Swans boss said it - booing Adam Goodes is racist. The media is driving that message on. Quit being disingenuous. It's so old.

You act as though the feeling of abuse at booing would end at Adam Goodes. What makes you think that if you think there are racists in large sections of the crowd? If racism is rampant as many claim in this country, it will just move to a different indigenous player for a "made up reason" until booing them is considered racist too.
 

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How much change in the behaviour can you expect when you have people like Miranda Devine, Rita Panahi pandering articles to their racist audience.

Miranda Devine articles especially have been utterly sickening not sure how she has a job in writing.
it'a all about the clicks.

something the owners of this forum would be ecstatic about right now too.
 

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How much change in the behaviour can you expect when you have people like Miranda Devine, Rita Panahi pandering articles to their racist audience.

Miranda Devine articles especially have been utterly sickening not sure how she has a job in writing.
no wait. we shouldn't criticize. we wouldn't want to hurt her feelings and make her quit right?
 

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If Adam Goodes came out in the media 2 days ago and said 'I disagree with my club president, old mate Robbo, Michael O'Loughlin, Lewis Jetta and the rest - I don't believe that booing me on the field is overtly racist', then this wouldn't be an issue would it..

He doesn't need to say it personally, he's got a PR team doing his labeling for him.
But it is racist so why would he lie?
 

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Let me spit you some truth

Australians as a whole are very racist, white Australians have a very poor view in general of Aboriginal people. This was evident long before Adam Goodes ever pointed out that girl. If I had a dollar for every Aboriginal joke or insult, dole bludging, alcoholic or half cast reference I heard growing up I wouldn't be at work typing this.

Adam Goodes is also a bit of a douchebag who doesn't represent himself very well as a human being in general.

Adam Goodes was also a very poor Australian of the year choice, but he didn't ask to be Australian of the year either, this is no fault of his.

The rage for Adam Goodes started when he was appointed Australian of the year, because most people assumed he got that award for pointing out the girl in the crowd (I'm sure we all remember the memes). The tide of public opinion then began to shift, and Adam Goodes began to be hated for what he did on the field that day. Is it racist? I'm not sure, somebody smarter than me could point out exactly where that stands on the racism spectrum.

People who say they boo Goodes because he dives for frees are complete ******* idiots. You don't.

People who say they're not racist because they don't boo every aboriginal player are also complete ******* idiots. Plenty of slave owners had black friends.

Either way, aren't we all just ******* tired of it. Surely we can find a new villain anyway

Carey got boo'd less for ******* that players wife.
 

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How much change in the behaviour can you expect when you have people like Miranda Devine, Rita Panahi pandering articles to their racist audience.

Miranda Devine articles especially have been utterly sickening not sure how she has a job in writing.
Guilt by association eh? You're a peach.

Not sure who those people write for, but the likes of Valenti, Zimmerman, etc get a platform in the Guardian because it seems that having a controversial opinion on a hot topic - even if its ridiculous - seems to get a lot of clicks, if only to witness how ******ed the article is. That's how I know that wrapping Christmas presents is misogynist.
 

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Your own Swans boss said it - booing Adam Goodes is racist. The media is driving that message on. Quit being disingenuous. It's so old.

You act as though the feeling of abuse at booing would end at Adam Goodes. What makes you think that if you think there are racists in large sections of the crowd? If racism is rampant as many claim in this country, it will just move to a different indigenous player for a "made up reason" until booing them is considered racist too.
Please read through my other posts in this thread. At no stage have I said the booing is coming from a pack of racists in the crowd. I've said that the booing is perceived as being racially motivated.

What other people say is their own opinion.
 

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Every aboriginal person would prefer that 1788 never happened.

Don't rub their face in it.
Every aboriginal person who genuinely believes they would be better off without European settlement has the option to abandon all and any benefits that settlement now provides them.
To stand up and denounce the advantages European settlement has brought whilst enjoying 1/2 million dollar salaries, sipping expensive coffee, living in a beautiful home, having his kids educated and raised in this society with all the health benefits and opportunities provided is the epitome of hypocrisy.
I would have some respect if he abandoned all his European provided possessions, took himself and his children back to bush, relinquished any opportunities European settlement gives him and his children, including his AOTY and his Brownlow's from a game invented by "the Europeans".
The reason Australians have responded so strongly to this hypocrite is the very protective, mateship qualities Aussies have regarding their country. Put simply. If you don't like us, give up the benefits, lifestyle and opportunities our way provides and f**k off.
 
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