Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
    1,888
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They are the minority. The booers. Can we ignore them? I can.
I cringe every time I hear the boos and racist comments directed at Goodes in recent times. Makes me embarrassed to be a football supporter, and hence associated with these people, I find it pretty hard to ignore.
 

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I'll make it simple for those slow on the uptake:

If you boo Goodes for what he does on the field, you're not a racist.

If you boo Goodes for what he does off the field, you are.

It's not really that hard to understand.
 

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Another completely ignoring context. Invasion Day? Think again. Maybe read the actual speech instead of relying on hearsay.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...-really-divisive/story-fnia3v71-1227463023081
Go listen to the AD speech - he says nothing of the sorts.
Yeah I've gone back and edited my post. Australia Day doesn't really hold my interest so I've never bothered to look into it and just went off what others were saying, my bad.

I've left just the pertinent parts.
 

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Racism and bullying are bigger than the game.

The booing idiots have made themselves bigger than the game. By carrying on with this disgrace they have humiliated the game with the national headlines they have caused. This is making news in the northern states and being used by fans of every other code to paint us all with the same brush. If the cowards cared about anyone besides themselves they'd stop.
Absolutely. As is player welfare via the mental health of the players. In this particular case Adam Goodes.
If being offended isn't a personal choice then there should be some objective way to measure offense. There isn't, because it relies wholly on the individuals perception. Which can change.

Having no control over the offense YOU TAKE (offense can only be taken, not given) implies no free will. By saying Goodes has no choice other than to be offended YOU are saying he has no free will. YOU are likening Goodes to an animal.
I reckon I could test your free will quite easily by walking up to you and saying one or two things to your face you would take offence to.

In other words, it's easy in principle but not quite so easy in practice not to take offence.
 

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You're being silly now. It has nothing to do with headline or intellect. Adam didn't respect all of the other Australians who are proud of Australia Day. Denigrating Australia Day is going to piss some people off. For him to now cry foul just shows how clueless he is.
I don't know where to go but I'll give it a go:

Millions of people around the world celebrate Christmas Day. Some religious, some not. But it is a cultural institution that brings people together, makes people appreciate family and experience some joy of giving to loved ones, feasting etc.

I don't celebrate on the 25th of December. My older brother and younger sister were killed by a drunk five years ago on December 25. So for me, Christmas Day is a symbol of something different, and something horrible and sad.

I do wish people a happy Christmas (as AG wished the nation, including you a happy Australia Day) and I don't begrudge others their festivities.

Mmm. Guess I'm divisive.
 

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The further this thread goes the more it seems people aren't booing Goodes because they're racist - they're booing him because they've never actually researched into the reasons they believe make it reasonable to boo him. How many times does that AOTY speech need to be posted? How many times do his COMPLETE comments re: the "ape" girl need to be posted? At this stage, people are either willfully ignoring evidence that goes against their position or they're not willing to engage in the research and are just gobbing off based on headlines and word-of-mouth info.

The "We boo because he's dirty/a diver" arguments have been roundly shot down as nonsense, as SJ, Lewis and Thomas don't receive the same treatment.

The "He bullied a 13-year old girl" claims hold no water when you read his actual quotes and consider what actually happened.

The "He used the AOTY pulpit to attack Invasion Day!" reasoning has been shown time and again as an utter falsehood.

What's left? "I boo because it gets under his skin?" Good for you, you're a primary school sandpit bully. "I boo because the AFL can't tell me what to do!" Cool, you're obstreperous to the point where you're happy to boo a man when you know he, his team-mates, many players around the league and many fans find it distasteful. Congratulations, you are incapable of restraint!
 

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Can we just talk about some of the ******* bombs dropped by Joanne, the mother of the girl who called him an ape please

Heres a few gems

“She’d only turned 13 five days beforehand. She was technically still 12" - Actually, Joanne, I think you'll find in every sense of the word technically, your daughter was 13 at the time.

"...and having her questioned by police without an adult being present was absolutely disgusting on the part of himself and the AFL,” - God dammit Adam, you know its your responsibility to oversee police interrogations

Shes a real gem this one
Classy, getting stuck into the mother of the child on a public forum

But cry like a little bitch when someone dares to Boo Goodes at a game of footy.
 

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The further this thread goes the more it seems people aren't booing Goodes because they're racist - they're booing him because they've never actually researched into the reasons they believe make it reasonable to boo him. How many times does that AOTY speech need to be posted? How many times do his COMPLETE comments re: the "ape" girl need to be posted? At this stage, people are either willfully ignoring evidence that goes against their position or they're not willing to engage in the research and are just gobbing off based on headlines and word-of-mouth info.

The "We boo because he's dirty/a diver" arguments have been roundly shot down as nonsense, as SJ, Lewis and Thomas don't receive the same treatment.

The "He bullied a 13-year old girl" claims hold no water when you read his actual quotes and consider what actually happened.

The "He used the AOTY pulpit to attack Invasion Day!" reasoning has been shown time and again as an utter falsehood.

What's left? "I boo because it gets under his skin?" Good for you, you're a primary school sandpit bully. "I boo because the AFL can't tell me what to do!" Cool, you're obstreperous to the point where you're happy to boo a man when you know he, his team-mates, many players around the league and many fans find it distasteful. Congratulations, you are incapable of restraint!

The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!

I think the disrespect and potential slander directed to the crowd by the media and some connected with the AFL hierarchy did not help!

Some of the crowd group feel disrespected in a big way probably.


For example RL players showing support to Goodes by doing a War dance in is not relevant of its own. If they did it to opposition supporters it would be relevant but I doubt they would take a liking to that.

You see the war dance for some is a bit like Goodes being judge and jury accusing all the section of the crowd without a judge and jury and with an execution on the end.

Some others in the media and AFL sidelines have also performed arguably an execution by labelling them racist without consultation. This is from a background of negligence as well.

I think a lot have had a gutful and that comes from deteriorating fan relations from when Vlad began and maybe even before. This is just a sharp acute catalyst IMO.
 
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So you think there no racist element at all in the booing?
No one boos Adam because he's vocal and opinionated about human rights issues?
Yes, there is no racist element to the boo-ing. How much do the other indigenous get boo'd? Do they carry on like this fake Australian of the Year?
 

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I've got no problem with that Adam said. But I am amazed that he or his script writer were so ignorant to think that saying this "very much the feeling of invasion day" wouldn't cause a negative reaction.
I'm sorry, are you saying it's his fault that people wilfully cherry pick his statements to deliberately claim he said precisely the opposite of what he actually said? A la how Andrew Bolt put it today - Goodes is different and not just because he then made things worse by waving an imaginary spear at white spectators or peddling a vicious version of our history as Australian of the Year

Where the holy hell does Bolt get that from? It is a complete fiction. And why does this thread contain poster after poster endlessly repeating the same lies? Do they just buy whatever they are told without ever bothering to check the source information?

And this is Goodes' fault??? Methinks he could have used the most obsequious, conciliatory and kow towing language possible and still there would be arsewipes with an agenda like Bolt picking and choosing his words to make out he said something completely different.
 

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The other main thing is the aggressive running war dance to the crowd by Goodes and Jetta.

I would not underplay this catalyst!
If you felt legitimately threatened or upset by that then I don't know what to tell you. Also, he was booed mercilessly by Hawthorn fans the week before that happened, so your timeline is wrong.
 
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