Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
    1,888
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TheMightyEagles

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Look I am busy. What freedom of speech laws are you referring to? If in your workplace a visitor, which is what you are if you have a ticket, or a person with a contract, if you are a member (that's what supporters are in football games are legally) cannot bully an employee. The employer has a legal obligation to prevent the bullying. Goodes is an employee and the football ground is his workplace. The way the legal obligation on the employer would be done in a football ground would be to remove the bully or those who bully. That's why some people are talking about removing opposition supporters if the bullying continues. There is no special privilege here. How is the prevention of bullying and vilification an injustice? Those questions are rhetorical.
If you accept this argument, then you have to take it to its natural conclusion - i.e. the targeted boo'ing of any player is workplace bullying. It's behaviour which is designed to put players off their game (i.e. their means of livelihood). Goodes can't be the sole exception.
 

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Stop putting one blogger's opinion on a pedestal. The author does make some interesting points on indigenous culture and the way it's understood by wider society. But much of his argument boils down to the idea that Adam Goodes is a rich footballer and so he should just stop whinging and get on with life. It's hardly a game changer.
Way to cherry pick out the only point that fits your discourse. And since when do you speak for a black aboriginal man and a section of his community?
How narcissistic is that? Dictating to a black man that his point of view is wrong because he is in the minority in his own community (which he already stated he is not!) so he is irrelevant? Apparently this aboriginal mans opinion is worth less than Adams Goodes so screw him?
How very enlightened you must be.

One thing I’ve come to understand about our society is that often, those who see themselves as the most tolerant, educated and enlightened are usually most racist, close-minded of all. These types were the first to pick up their keyboard or a microphone and declare that speaking negatively about the so-called ‘war dance’ effort from Adam Goodes over the weekend means that we are culturally ignorant, yet in making such a claim, have themselves ignored an entire segment of the Aboriginal community, who are appalled at the ‘performance’. In wanting us to be a homogenous community capable of only thinking and feeling one way, therefore enabling them to have the correct information and be ‘right’, they are guilty of the same crime they are continually accusing an entire nation of – RACISM.
 

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I'll post this again:

Most "dances" of this ilk have some kind of this "tribal nature" with that warrior element and we are in a sports theatre, I mean what were you expecting a dance to be some kind of Michael Jackson moonwalk or something???

And then he explained to the public exactly what is was. How people would even get outraged at this is borderline moronic, just to justify the incessant. booing.
 

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Not the point. Suggesting anyone who boos from this point on, which the coaches/media/whatever are, is bigoted and idiotic.
That is entirely the ******* point. If you willingly give your voice to a racist cause - which you are doing if you knowingly increase the sound a group of racists are making towards Goodes - then you are acting in a racist manner. You are supporting what the racists are doing.

This is very, very simple. You knowingly and willfully help out a racist cause, you can be considered one.
 
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He has stated he knew it was a "young face" when he turned around.
Why do you feel the need to defend this ?
It's a fact.
Goodes obviously was quite happy to continue to press the issue despite her age.
I think 16 year olds have young faces, fk i was carded until i was 25.

What does it matter his or your interpretation of "young face". His actions were appropriate.
 

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As he should have.

Also he and most reasonable people would understand he wasn't calculating age, and how this had a baring on being vilified in these seconds, let alone in indigenous round.
Why then after the apology and knowing her age he came out the following day and declared her the new face of racism.
 

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I'll quote him for you. No mention of incite. Please quote that:"I haven't had the opportunity to do the war cry... and show that passion and pride about being a warrior and representing my people," Goodes said........
"It wasn't something that was pre-meditated. Lewis Jetta and myself had a chat on Thursday that we wanted to represent on Friday night, we wanted to do a dance.
"It's a shame that Lewis couldn't get on the board because he had something planned as well."There was nothing untoward to the Carlton supporters."[But] for me it had to be towards opposition and say here I am, take me as I am."Guys can cheer, boo, whatever. Take it as it is."
Well obviously THAT was not true !!!!! What a load of baloney !!!!!!!
Bloody hypocrite ....
Pre-mediatated but not planned ?????? Ha !
Shot himself in the foot in mouth there !!!

This is why I dislike him
 

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That is entirely the ******* point. If you willingly give your voice to a racist cause - which you are doing if you knowingly increase the sound a group of racists are making towards Goodes - then you are acting in a racist manner. You are supporting what the racists are doing.

This is very, very simply. You knowingly and willfully help out a racist cause, you can be considered one.
I'm not too sure why people fail to understand this.
 

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strong words from Ross Lyon:

“It is offensive and wrong what’s occurring.
“I really like what Chris Scott said, from here if you continue to boo Adam Goodes you are a racist and a bigot.”
Love Ross. Champion bloke. Got it wrong here. Towing the party line of irrational thought for club PR.

We'll never know how many of these AFL figureheads coming out really believe their words. It's a competition now to appear most tolerant for the media scrutiny of staying silent.
 
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He has stated many times until then he was fine with it, but i think we can all agree the mob bullying intensified from this week onwards.

He specifically attributes it to this race incident and doesn't think the booing is normal reasonable use of the boo which he has stated he has no issue with.
 

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There are two interesting threads on this board at the moment involving vilification, one represents all that's good about this community, the other, it's sewer.
 
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Well obviously THAT was not true !!!!! What a load of baloney !!!!!!!
Bloody hypocrite ....
Pre-mediatated but not planned ?????? Ha !
Shot himself in the foot in mouth there !!!
He has stated many times until then he was fine with it, but i think we can all agree the mob bullying intensified from this week onwards.

He specifically attributes it to this race incident and doesn't think the booing is normal reasonable use of the boo which he has stated he has no issue with.
 
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I think 16 year olds have young faces, fk i was carded until i was 25.

What does it matter his or your interpretation of "young face". His actions were appropriate.
He said he thought she was about 14, so he clearly knew she was a child.

He would, or should have known, that his actions would have her evicted and it would get national media coverage - it was a nationally televised game at the MCG, he then went on to call her the face of racism in this country at a prepared speech at a press conference post-match. He had no qualms about what he did, he thought it was ok to do that to a child. Many people think differently.
 

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That is entirely the ******* point. If you willingly give your voice to a racist cause - which you are doing if you knowingly increase the sound a group of racists are making towards Goodes - then you are acting in a racist manner. You are supporting what the racists are doing.

This is very, very simply. You knowingly and willfully help out a racist cause, you can be considered one.
Just because you believe booing Goodes is racism, doesn't make it racism.
Can you show us the %'s of blacks that are booed, then %'s on whites that are booed?
 

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just like Rosa Parks who refuses to give up her seat for a white person.

Adam is fighting for what is fair & right!!
Fighting? Right now he looks like he has run off and hid and got his bully mates to do the fighting for him.

Comparing actual racism to getting booed. ******* embarrassing
 
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