Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
    1,888
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Correct


Agree with some comments, don't agree with everything, there is a different perspective here
Fair enough but here is my view:

In the heat of the moment he wanted to make a stand, he had (probably) been talking a lot about racial issues at the time in and outside of football. The fact he realised it was a young girl doesn't matter he already turned around and completed the action of trying to find a point at the person that called him an ape. Why would he stop himself in the middle just because it was a youngish girl? 13 isn't that young and she might've looked a bit older but that's besides the point anyway.

The "Face of Racism" is a metaphor, I'm sure people have similarly pointed that out already 100 times...

It is not literally saying she is the face of racism and is evil or something like that, it is a technique used to highlight the sadness of the situation that a young child who probably doesn't know what she is doing is inflicting this type of pain on others without knowing the consequences.

Note: Please don't try compare how much racial abuse hurts compared to getting embarrassed on national media as a 13 y.o. girl who actually did something wrong (but was not condemned by Goodes).
 

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I have responded to you on that 3 times now and from you ...on each occasion .......crickets
I'm wasting no more megabytes repeating myself for the fourth time!
No you haven't. You've dodged out of it every time.

So Goodes is near the boundary and gets racially abused, what's next?
 

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Ignoring the other anecdotal crap (I'm sure, and I bet I'm guessing correctly here, you are someone who knows next to nothing about Indigenous culture, and knows few Indigenous people. Im not surprised you have rare experiences of racism towards Indigenous people... Who would have thought it?!)...

You arent going to respond to me with an argument? Can't explain why? You are pathetic. It isn't a theory. It is a straightforward argument, and one you will need to reply to if you are to justify your position (FWIW I think that you are a racist if you boo one more time). Let me restate:

You should concern yourself with the motivations of others if you, through your own free actions, support what they are doing. You don't live in a bloody vacuum and need to take some responsibility for what you do. If what you do furthers what racists do, and you know that, you are volitionally giving your voice to theirs and are supporting what they are doing. You are responsible for that.
For starters, of course I don't plan on engaging in the argument. Unlike you, I'm not a mushroom who spends all day posting on Bigfooty.

Secondly, I don't care about aboriginal culture, and I really don't care about your knowledge of it. It's irrelevant to the problem I highlighted: people labeling others racist for booing.

Thirdly, this is about booing at football games, not racism elsewhere. If it wasn't at a football game, it wouldn't be on this board.

Fourthly, I'm not concerning myself with the actions of others just because an obnoxious w*nker like you tells me to. I'm free to boo for non-racial reasons all I want, and I'm comfortable knowing that doesn't make me a racist, contrary to what dopes like you might suggest.

Don't waste your breath with him. He is either incapable or unable to mount any counter argument, reasonable or other.

Apparently "he" will decide if he's racist or not. Laughable and a typical argument of a racist.
You don't decide what constitutes racism, bigot. If you weren't a complete moron, you'd realize a lot of it comes down to interpretation.
 
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I'm going to offer a thought to you all.

I am sure, like myself, that you had a near instant reaction to this issue. What I mean by that is, you probably formed an opinion very quickly on it.

The problem we have on BigFooty, and to be fair as people in general, is once we've stated a stance we blindly ignore opposing views or new information because we have this aversion to ever admitting we were wrong.

Maybe sit back, have a think about what you've heard, what others have said, take on the information. And maybe, just maybe, reconcile yourself with the idea that, you know what, it's actually ok to take on new information and change your mind.
 

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I'd say your point misses the mark by a long, long way. You're talking about exactly what wider society ignores- poverty, disadvantage, loss of culture and the breakdown of society.

But yeah, I was often bullied by indigenous kids in primary school so obviously that should change the way I think about things... right?
o_O

None so blind as those who refuse to see.

Goodes's War Dance did nothing to address ' poverty, disadvantage, loss of culture and the breakdown of society'. Thanks for proving my point.
 

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well they wouldn't, of course, because the booing isn't along racial lines.

but thanks for confirming it's just a footy thing.
Tell me if Goodes played 350 odd games won 2 brownlow medals multiple AA's etc at your club would you boo him because he's outspoken about racial issues? What a load of shit
 

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We've been going around in circles with these clowns for days now.

The moral to their story is that kids can do what they want, without consequence, because they're kids. We are stupid for thinking otherwise.
No
That's not so.
No-one absolved her of any consequences - just that the consequences were out of kilter to the indiscretion when her age is taken into account

This is only part of why Goodes was booed, something you fail to acknowledge.
 

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For starters, of course I don't plan on engaging in the argument. Unlike you, I'm not a mushroom who spends all day posting on Bigfooty.

Secondly, I don't care about aboriginal culture, and I really don't care about your knowledge of it. It's irrelevant to the problem I highlighted: people aren't racist just because they boo.

Thirdly, this is about booing at football games, not racism elsewhere. If it wasn't at a football game, it wouldn't be on this board.

Fourthly, I'm not concerning myself with the actions of others just because an obnoxious w*nker like you tells me to. I'm free to boo for non-racial reasons, and I'm comfortable knowing I'm not a racist because of that, contrary to what dopes like you might suggest.



You don't decide what constitutes racism, bigot. If you weren't a complete moron, you'd realize a lot of it comes down to interpretation.
You're a racist using any reasonable interpretation. And one that is unprepared to consider the views of other people. Only one of us is a moron here and it aint me. (I'm not going to waste any further time responding to you btw).
 

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Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun 4m4 minutes ago
BREAKING: AFL about to launch powerful new video campaign promoting responsible barracking at the footy @superfooty

Jesus Christ, so this is what it's come to. To people who now go to the footy, always stay seated, keep your arms by your sides at all times, gold clap for when your team scores a goal, golf clap when the opposition team scores a goal. Actually, we will no longer be keeping scpres of games. Everyone is a winner come the final siren, and all players will be chaired off after a hard fought contest.

Carry on
 

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I dont think posting random but useful information is going to get through to a bunch of people who feel that booing someone is a mature thing to do.
That's as it may eventually be. And I acknowledge that logic and reason all too often takes a back seat when passions are inflamed. At such times too many let their Amygdala alone do their thinking.

But I still have the right to express my opinion and share information that can be read by those who wish to understand the principles, structure, logic or otherwise of arguments being made by either side of an argument.

If it helps highlight techniques and strategies used by some to manipulate - so much the better.
 

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Tell me if Goodes played 350 odd games won 2 brownlow medals multiple AA's etc at your club would you boo him because he's outspoken about racial issues? What a load of shit
ha ha, cool your jets ace.

that's just the point. virtually nobody seems to boo him 'cause he's outspoken about race. it's more along team lines (and other things), as you keep alluding to.
 
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