Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
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So it's clear he tried to shrug them off and just get on with his footy, but it's got to the point where he's cracking?

Yeah cool, let's boo louder and crush the guy! Great plan.
Saying it's a "mark of respect" is a pretty emphatic way to categorise booing if mere 12 months later you say its racist. I don't find it plausible that leap.

Personally I never said lets boo louder. I said those that want that right to boo even an indigenous player on grounds they don't like them should continue because this draconian measure is a troubling one.
 

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Spent a few years in the UK and Ireland, booing is definitely not a big thing over there, particularly in Ireland where you are almost frowned upon if you do it. Definitely an Australian thing
I think this is what im trying to get at.

If you think Adam Goodes has his head up his arse then call him out on it. Come up with something you can shout rather than just boo.

Imagine if the barmy army came over and just booed the entire time.
 

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Sure I will. I still have absolutely nothing against aboriginals, and booing Goodes doesn't conflict with that.

If anything, one good reason to boo would be to see people like you shit your pants. Again, that doesn't make me a racist; it doesn't suggest I bear an agenda toward a race.

Going AGINST the ethos of your own clubs views

People who hate are usually racists also ........fits the criteria


You might not be racist but you're carrying out racist type views
 

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Nice try, but none of those quotes link back to my posts.

So your response is that Goodes should have gone and hugged her?


How would you have had Goodes handle that situation?

(I am near certain this is the exact same discussion you evaded for most of yesterday)
Never evaded it at all... have said all along - Goodes meets with the girl, she apologises , he accepts her apology

Not a biggie ...he looks like he's done his bit ...she's made aware what she said was wrong
That's todays
CBF 'd finding yesterdays

Interesting that you choose to focus on "hug " rather than that she should apologise and he should forgive....

But that wouldn't suit your argument would it
You can always throw an egg at me I guess

#nowthatsmature
 

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Can we be sure he was aware of the girls age when he pointed her out? I thought his explanation and readiness to speak to her about how her taunt is very hurtful to indiginous Australians the next day was fair. If nothing else it put on public record that "Ape" is an insulting slur. Based on some of the reaction in the aftermath of that night it is clear that many people were unaware of that fact. Lets get fair dinkum, for a great many posters on Bigfooty who have outed themselves lately as, if not racist, completely ignorant of the racial divide in this country, it would not have mattered whether the person involved was 14 or 41.
well he's the famous millionaire sports star who's got the world by the balls and many people (including myself) believe that it was very petty to even give her the time of day. in this case, despite the race narrative that's being driven, he's the advantaged one and she's the nobody (and i don't wanna hear some crap about injustices that happened 200 years ago, in 2015 goodes is in the top 1% of society). the fact that she was a little teenage girl only exacerbates that point.
 

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Do people truly think that a just turned 13 year old could possibly have known that when she yelled ape at Adam Goodes that it would hit him like a 1 tonne racial slur of bricks? I know it must be impossible or outside reality that a child could look at Adam Goodes and think he looks like an ape for no other reason than she think he looks like an ape, as in monkey that she has probably learnt about at primary school. She didn't know the full extent and consequence of what she was saying. This is not the point. The point is Adam should have known this, being an adult who probably has kids himself. 13 year olds also do not fully understand the myriad of different sexuality and the slur words that go with that. Yet they will still sling those words around. How many thirteen year olds among us knew up to thousands of years of human race relations and the words that go with all of it and the meaning etc? Do you think that Australia's horrid past is copy and pasted into young peoples minds through govt education? Hell no! I finished school in 2007 and learnt/taught **** all about indigenous issues. IMO racism only largely exists institutionally now and that's the problem, not little girls saying ape, not at your local footy club, not with boos. Adam Goodes truly felt like his identity and race was attacked by a girl who wouldn't even partially understand race issues at all. Yes it must have hurt him ofc but maybe someone has to be the adult here and get on with it and see it for what it was and from where it came (name calling from a little girl) not what it could possibly, maybe, be, Yet Isn't (purposeful racially motivated slur from little girl who knew or didnt know either way lets slam her), oh yeh that adult is Goodes. Does anyone get a chance to learn things without a public shame session as a child? Is that meant to bring us all together or some shit? **** sake. If you get upset about what a 13 year old says to you then your a child yourself. If you try and spin what a child said to you as racially motivated and instigate a public commentary about it, your a douchebag.
 

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None so blind as those who refuse to see.

Goodes's War Dance did nothing to address ' poverty, disadvantage, loss of culture and the breakdown of society'. Thanks for proving my point.
Things are bad in indigenous communities. A lot of people aren't aware of how bad things are. People should be more aware. More needs to be done.
These communities can do more to help themselves. Sure.
But where is it being argued that the war dance was actually about addressing these issues? Frankly, if someone expressing any sort of pride in being indigenous gets so many people up in arms, it's not hard to understand why we aren't getting anywhere. Your argument is flawed.
Respected? By whom? 30 odd blog posts in 4 years :rolleyes:
People on this site/social media who don't even understand half of what the post is about or just didn't read it at all.
Working at a school were 100% of the kids are indigenous..

Its been a big story up here just like everyone else around the country. Pretty obvious that a fair potion on here seem to forget that Indigenous people read and use social media.

We read a few newspaper articles, roar articles and this thread. The kids had some pretty profound reflections.

Australia has a LONG LONG LONG way to go.

We may not be a racist country(though you could make a pretty good argument for it) but we are without doubt terribly ignorant.
No, it's only white, middle class social justice warrior types who vote for the ALP and the Greens who are reacting to this.
Stop with the lies and propaganda, we knows it's a conspiracy!
 

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It doesn't make any sense why Goodes was so bitter and angry in the first place.

The AFL community has celebrated Indigenous culture for at least the past 20 years. When the odd bigot yells out something racist in the crowd, they are instantly reported by other fans, then ejected and the club revokes their membership. We've come a long way from the "Nicky Winmar at Victoria Park" days.

He's a dual Brownlow medallist, 4 x All-Australian, Indigenous Team Of Century member & 3 x BnF winner. The AFL has rewarded his contributions to the game.

So why is he still angry? When he complains about Indigenous issues, he is complaining to the AFL community, who have treated him so well.
We already report and ban racists, what more can we as fans do?

Hawks and Swans have enjoyed a good rivalry over the last few years (Didn't Goodes star in the 2012 GF?) and incidents like the one below have fuelled the hostility:


He then publically complains about the booing after the round 8 Hawks game before performing a war dance towards the crowd against Carlton the week after. The football community is alienated by Goodes, who feel that he has made it into a race issue when most fans just want to reconcile with Indigenous people and get on with the footy.

People are tired of the lectures and they don't appreciate the condemnation when they were originally just trying to support him.
Please do not bring facts into an argument
 

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By your own definition, your ongoing booing of Goodes, with the knowledge of everything that has come to light this week (including the explanations of other Aboriginal people how hurt they have been from decades of abuse etc), represents, to me, an "antagonism directed against someone of a different race" based on the fact you think you have a right to belittle him, and are therefore superior to him.
Jesus christ this is stupid; by that logic anyone who insults anyone is a racist.

Stop twisting the definition, and point out where I (or anyone else) suggested that Goodes gets booed because he's inferior to the white race.
 

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I think we both know you were more interested in your angle than my answer.
No just interested if you believed in free speech/expression but thought the booing should be stopped. I find often people are for free speech in theory until someone says something they don't agree with. The price of freedom of speech or expression is often having to put up with things that one may find distasteful. Apologies if some of this is going over your head.
 

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Going AGINST the ethos of your own clubs views

People who hate are usually racists also ........fits the criteria


You might not be racist but you're carrying out racist type views
Going against my own club means nothing. I'm not a sheep who agrees with everything they do.

People who hate? Like who? Did I say I hated anyone?

Racist type views? Like what? Where did I suggest he was inferior because of his skin colour?

Sorry, this is just too dumb.
 
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If you think Adam Goodes has his head up his arse then call him out on it. Come up with something you can shout rather than just boo.
You are kidding right? What can people say to him? "You self-serving asshole goodes"? Like that? ... that appears grounds for vilification from here on in.. One report from a bleeding heart and your membership is likely revoked. Don't play dumb.

This is special treatment on hyperdrive.
 
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