Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
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Goodes' comments regarding Australia Day being 'Invasion Day' I think hasn't gone well with most Australians. Seems almost contradictory that he would accept the Australian of the Year award given his own vitriolic stance on Australia Day. Although I think the booing should stop since it has personally affected Goodes to the point that he is considering retirement, I wouldn't be surprised if it continued simply out of frustration at how the media and the AFL have handled it including the generalisation that all booers are somehow evil white redneck raycists.

Despite working with the Aboriginal community, etc... I think the way he handled the 'ape' incident was wrong and counter-productive. Up until this point he was respected by the wider AFL community and since then his actions have caused more division than anything.

I don't think the booing is racist. Ballantyne gets booed. So did Buckley and Carey. Given Goodes' inflammatory comments regarding Australia Day, the way he handled the 'ape' incident, the war dance incident, it is unsurprising that sections of the broader AFL community have reacted the way they have. Goodes shouldn't have to tolerate any form of racism in the same way that AFL supporters should have to tolerate his on and off-field behaviour -- the progress he has made with the Aboroginal community is an entirely separate issue.

In attempting to show pride in his race and culture he has only caused more division, has politicised the AFL, and have wrongly created and pushed a generalisation that AFL supporters are a bunch of evil inbred low-IQ white raycist KKK rednecks.

And no, this saga hasn't brought up any uncomfortable facts about race relations in this country. If anything, it has demonstrated how incredibly weak the AFL is in handling this entire situation. They think that they can put a lid on the situation by unashamedly using shaming tactics to rewire people's opinion towards their own in a cheap effort move on. And the fact that the AFL have caved into Goodes' victimology is astounding. It's a shame since Goodes' AFL legacy has been unquestionably tarnished by these recent incidents.
He couldn't of handled the ape incident any better, that girl deserved to be called out and educated on the subject
 
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But AFL players and coaches being politically correctly to support someones feelings isn't meaningless drivel? Just seems like a whole bunch of "who can show their tolerance harder" in the media this week.

Where as we here in this thread represent the cross section of people in this country with unbiased opinions. Honest on both sides. So much so a lot of you are all embarrassed at the opinions. So you can't be suggesting the poll areas suggesting it isn't racism is not counted in it, but people in the public space acting for their politically correct interests ARE counted.
 

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Your opinion predicates on the fact that all booing is not based in large part on Goodes job as a footballer. A sydney swans prime target of booing. A much maligned protected species within his job, a footballer. Which he had long history of before going political on the country.

No one person could possibly know the collective reasons for booing and no one can claim its all racial. Not even lunatics like Pridham.

The poll in here alone (which is not subject to political correctness bias) shows there is no consensus. Sorry. Theory falls flat.
Believe I was discussing the use of the term 'ape'. It is racist, it is not freedom of speech. Simple, don't get yourself confused.
ps If you think that a poll on BF is a good guide, well you have my sympathy. Don't get me wrong, I like BF, but seriously!;)
 
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This is actually ****** the support this wanker is getting. It isn't ******* RACISM. If staging for free kicks, sliding in and taking out peoples knees countless times, being protected from the umpires, singling out a 13 year old girl and embarrassing her and then calling her the face of racism and also taunting the crowd by pretending to throw a spear at them in some provocative war dance is a race then apparently any flog who does this shit can claim racism and not identify the fact they people MAY actually be booing them because they are arrogant, harmful human beings then there is something severely wrong.
 
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Its clear from some comments here that some fans are racist in my opinion, and use the freedom of speech argument to get over their views. They of course will deny this.
Despite the spin that comes out of AFL house its clear that as a sport we are behind Soccer, Rugby League and Rugby Union in racial tolerance.
 

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He couldn't of handled the ape incident any better, that girl deserved to be called out and educated on the subject
I don't agree with this at all. There are a myriad of different ways he could've handled the situation. I've worked in a multicultural primary school environment and I've seen and heard racial slurs being flung around many, many times and the way Goodes handled it -- by ejecting the girl -- was wrong, and hence, the backlash.

Humiliation is never considered 'education'.
 

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The ape and zoo comments are completely racist. That's undeniable.

There are many valid reasons to not like Goodes but him taking umbrage to being called an ape is not one of them.
 

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Its clear from some comments here that some fans are racist in my opinion, and use the freedom of speech argument to get over their views. They of course will deny this.
Despite the spin that comes out of AFL house its clear that as a sport we are behind Soccer, Rugby League and Rugby Union in racial tolerance.
In this country maybe, soccer elsewhere is terrible.
 

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This is actually stuffed the support this ****** is getting. It isn't ******* RACISM. If staging for free kicks, sliding in and taking out peoples knees countless times, being protected from the umpires, singling out a 13 year old girl and embarrassing her and then calling her the face of racism and also taunting the crowd by pretending to throw a spear at them in some provocative war dance is a race then apparently any flog who does this shit can claim racism and not identify the fact they people MAY actually be booing them because they are arrogant, harmful human beings then there is something severely wrong.
Any yet you just had to bring up him defending himself from racism
 

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Its clear from some comments here that some fans are racist in my opinion, and use the freedom of speech argument to get over their views. They of course will deny this.
Despite the spin that comes out of AFL house its clear that as a sport we are behind Soccer, Rugby League and Rugby Union in racial tolerance.
Freedom of speech means hearing things you might not always agree with. To whom would you delegate the task of deciding what we can and can't say?
 

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yeah it's horrible when you are frightened by an imaginary spear and difficult to know how to retaliate to protect yourself adequately
Those imaginary spears are dangerous and can cause real damage.

I am surprised no-one was seriously injured when Goodes threw it into the crowd.
 
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Believe I was discussing the use of the term 'ape'. It is racist, it is not freedom of speech. Simple, don't get yourself confused.
Then you are conflating things....

The poll, which I was talking about, isn't about the ape incident. It is about why people boo Adam Goodes. You want to make it about something specific, you will find yourself disagreeing with a portion of the nation in your assertions.
 
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