Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
    1,888
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Kidding, right?
Let's see. If the booing stops I'd say you're wrong. If it continues, you may be right.
False metric. Just because Bolt and his ilk are criticizing Goodes, just because they are framing booing as a pivotal free speech issue, doesn't mean they are only vindicated by the booing continuing.

The important thing for them is to get enough people pigeonholing Goodes as opinionated and self-important, and as jumping in with what they want seen as the human rights "industry".
 

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You've missed my point then

Unlike me , he made no allowance for the fact that she may NOT have meant it to be racist

He immediately presumed she meant it in a racial context.
As you would in his position.

No investigation - no contact with her - very happy to run with " call racism where I see it " story straight after the game
Yep.

Had all night and the best he could do was maintain that she was racist the next day to a full press conference
What were his exact words about it the next day? I know they've been posted but I don't have the links.

So, let's knock that over. On the field, after the game, the next day. We've heard this part. You think that wasn't fair.


What position did he finally arrive at?

How does that match up with your position?
 

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False metric. Just because Bolt and his ilk are criticizing Goodes, just because they are framing booing as a pivotal free speech issue, doesn't mean they are only vindicated by the booing continuing.

The important thing for them is to get enough people pigeonholing Goodes as opinionated and self-important, and as jumping in with what they want seen as the human rights "industry".
.... Or maybe they just hold an opposing point of view

To which I believe they are entitled


How on Earth has this gotten as far as it has ?
 

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Oh come on. You're a bigot if you're sick of the perpetually outraged? SJW is fine.
"A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation."

Urban Dictionary work for you?

So it is meant to be about people who are just in it for the lulz, shutting stuff down, slacktivists clicking like on Facebook so they can be seen to be doing the right thing in front of their friends.

What it seems to have devolved into is "anyone who has an opinion that what I say doesn't match some left-of-centre ideal".

It is a lazy way to argue a point. You can do better.
 

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First the minutes applause
Turning of the backs
Now the banner

.... For Gods Sake
"And now, let's turn the table on racism with turntables, featuring DJ Matainavora with a very indigenous remix of You Will Never Tear Us Apart!"
Wouldn't you love to see that at the next Port game?
 

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Different penalties, different reaction by family and friends , compassion and forgiveness in the case of manslaughter being accidental or unintended

This is what is missing in this whole fiasco

And all due respect - we are talking about someone being called a name and having their feelings hurt
Not murder
You missed the point, again...outcome is still the same for the person at the receiving end.
 

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Among the more stupid things I've read in my life tbh.

I just can't accept this. My experience in establishing common ground with people of different cultural perceptions screams to me that inflexibility like this is most counter-productive (not to mention pretty arrogant).
I am shocked that you don't accept this. Shocked I tells ya.

But given that by your estimation that was one of the more stupid things you've read I can understand why!
 

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I'm actually anxious about the Geelong v Sydney match. If he gets booed all game with every touch again this will be all over the media more than ever.
he won't, cats are not up to it. they have a long history of celebrating their own failure.

also it isn't a key contest in the seasons context. Unless goodes reverts to form and well, you know

the word flog is used on BF because you get carded if more descriptive
 

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As you would in his position.
You cannot presume to know what I would have done.
Would I have flown off the handle at a child in front of a national audience and a stadium full of people without knowing for sure what she meant?
Doubt it very much. Would I have made a complaint for the AFL to investigate if I felt that aggrieved by a child's comment? Who knows. Would have wanted to be 100% sure before I made a Federal Case out of it.


Yep... he ran with the racism angle


What were his exact words about it the next day? I know they've been posted but I don't have the links.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Pretty sure you know he went with "face of racism is a 13 year old girl" line. Even 12 hours after the event.

So, let's knock that over. On the field, after the game, the next day. We've heard this part. You think that wasn't fair.
No. It was unfair to accuse her of a racial slur - not once, at the time, not twice, after the game and certainly not the third time at the press conference without some sort of investigation on his part. He's dead set lucky if you ask me, that her parents were not "Tania and James Hird" types and took him to court over it.




What position did he finally arrive at?
"Finally" being the operative word.
Finally, AFTER labelling her the "face of racism" he conceded that she may have not had the benefit of an education or parenting that would have prevented an outburst of this nature in the first place. He had ample time to consider his words.



How does that match up with your position?
It doesn't.[/QUOTE]
 

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You cannot presume to know what I would have done.
Would I have flown off the handle at a child in front of a national audience and a stadium full of people without knowing for sure what she meant?
Doubt it very much. Would I have made a complaint for the AFL to investigate if I felt that aggrieved by a child's comment? Who knows. Would have wanted to be 100% sure before I made a Federal Case out of it.



Yep... he ran with the racism angle




Are you being deliberately obtuse? Pretty sure you know he went with "face of racism is a 13 year old girl" line. Even 12 hours after the event.



No. It was unfair to accuse her of a racial slur - not once, at the time, not twice, after the game and certainly not the third time at the press conference without some sort of investigation on his part. He's dead set lucky if you ask me, that her parents were not "Tania and James Hird" types and took him to court over it.





"Finally" being the operative word.
Finally, AFTER labelling her the "face of racism" he conceded that she may have not had the benefit of an education or parenting that would have prevented an outburst of this nature in the first place. He had ample time to consider his words.





It doesn't.
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Why do all the pro-booers fail to cite his comments in full?
 
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