Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

Why are crowds booing Goodes?

  • Racism

    Votes: 565 29.9%
  • He's perceived as a dirty player

    Votes: 563 29.8%
  • He's perceived as making a team game all about himself

    Votes: 758 40.1%
  • Because everyone else is booing, I thought I'd join in - like a Mexican wave thing

    Votes: 268 14.2%
  • Because Gillon doesnt want them to

    Votes: 135 7.2%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 74 3.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 183 9.7%
  • His onfield message is at odds with his off field one

    Votes: 233 12.3%
  • He can do no wrong with the MRP

    Votes: 164 8.7%
  • I was saying Boo-Urns?

    Votes: 61 3.2%
  • Jack Watts

    Votes: 56 3.0%

  • Total voters
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Really?
That's a top notch argument you got there.:thumbsu:
It's just an observation based on the available facts.

You make specific claims, repeatedly. The public record proves you wrong.

You deny the facts.

Hence: There is no hope that you will ever accept reality, preferring instead to be outraged at something that you made up.

No hope for you. None at all.
 

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Because the person who was personally abused has the right to point out that abuse whilst imploring others not to enact retribution on his behalf.

Do you even have a handle on what hypocrisy actually means?
Sure do ,
Accuse and humiliate someone as a racist and then "plead" for the media not to do it.
Hypocrisy.
 

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"A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation."

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Ok Ok, you don't like SJW.

How does "bossy boots" work for you then?
 

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Sure do ,
Accuse and humiliate someone as a racist and then "plead" for the media not to do it.
Hypocrisy.
I'll repeat it. As the abused party, Goodes has the right to highlight that abuse himself.

It's not hypocrisy by any definition of the word. You're embarrassing yourself by failing to understand the most basic facts of this issue.
 

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I'm surprised about the parts of this that are continuing on. Goodes had every right to call out that girl. However, he made the right comments after. Again, the issue was the media who put her face on the front page and named her.

Goodes looks like an ape. She called him an ape. He called out that is racist. Hun posts her to the front page and names her. Goodes tried to calm the situation. She called him to apologise saying she didn't understand and didn't mean to be racist. Goodes accepted the apology. Media continued to run with the story for weeks.

Goodes is not the issue. Calling her out is not the issue. The girl not getting it is not an issue. The media is....
 

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Sure do ,
Accuse and humiliate someone as a racist and then "plead" for the media not to do it.
Hypocrisy.
This is where you make a fool out of yourself and people start to ridicule you.

I plead with all BigFooty users not to go on a witch hunt. It's not subie's fault. He doesn't know what he is saying. Literally. He has no clue.
 

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a few Boos? Seriously? 40,000 screaming West Coast fans on your back would just roll off. 2 years of this crap for a bloke who has 18 seasons under his belt? 2 brownlows etc, I've yet to see one single actual reason for it other than generisations about him being a flog, if someone could please articulate the reasons in specific terms I would be most grateful
I don't think it's been two years of abuse for Goodes. As for "actual reasons", I was at the 2014 GF and heard the Boos against Goodes, I was a bit surprised, seriously, I first thought they had mistaken him for Buddy, then a fan in front abused him (not racially-but there was swearing)and something about him injuring Gibbo. I had just assumed that is what most of the booing was for so it came as a shock to me when Caroline Wilson called the Hawthorn boos racist the next day. I didn't want to read that shit, we just won a flag and reading that self righteous spanker's overzealous attacks on imaginary racist taunts took some of the gloss off what was an otherwise perfect Sunday morning's reading. If Goodes or Wilson had been in my lounge room I would have boo-ed them for that alone.
 

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It's just an observation based on the available facts.

You make specific claims, repeatedly. The public record proves you wrong.

You deny the facts.

Hence: There is no hope that you will ever accept reality, preferring instead to be outraged at something that you made up.

No hope for you. None at all.
The public record.... lets look at the "public record"
He called her out at the match - fact - racist
He called it a racist statement after the match - fact -
He called her racist - not only racist but "the face of racism" - the next day - fact

These are the "facts" and they are not in dispute. They are what HE said and what HE did without even bothering to speak to her.

After having 3 cracks at her, he then implores the media not to do anything - what did he think would happen?
He knew perfectly well - one thing Goodes is not, is stupid.
Every comment for that presser was thought out and considered.
His "war dance " traditional' - not traditional - "cultural"- not cultural - indigenous - made up - whatever it was - scenario was a bit of a fiasco though.
 
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It's just an observation based on the available facts.

You make specific claims, repeatedly. The public record proves you wrong.

You deny the facts.

Hence: There is no hope that you will ever accept reality, preferring instead to be outraged at something that you made up.

No hope for you. None at all.
Don't waste your time mate. He seems like a head in the sand type.
 

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I don't think it's been two years of abuse for Goodes. As for "actual reasons", I was at the 2014 GF and heard the Boos against Goodes, I was a bit surprised, seriously, I first thought they had mistaken him for Buddy, then a fan in front abused him (not racially-but there was swearing)and something about him injuring Gibbo. I had just assumed that is what most of the booing was for so it came as a shock to me when Caroline Wilson called the Hawthorn boos racist the next day. I didn't want to read that shit, we just won a flag and reading that self righteous spanker's overzealous attacks on imaginary racist taunts took some of the gloss off what was an otherwise perfect Sunday morning's reading. If Goodes or Wilson had been in my lounge room I would have boo-ed them for that alone.
Makes no sense Mick. You want to boo Goodes for something that Wilson wrote?
 

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This is where you make a fool out of yourself and people start to ridicule you.

I plead with all BigFooty users not to go on a witch hunt. It's not subie's fault. He doesn't know what he is saying. Literally. He has no clue.
You know nothing Jon Snow
He's a she
 

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I don't think it's been two years of abuse for Goodes. As for "actual reasons", I was at the 2014 GF and heard the Boos against Goodes, I was a bit surprised, seriously, I first thought they had mistaken him for Buddy, then a fan in front abused him (not racially-but there was swearing)and something about him injuring Gibbo. I had just assumed that is what most of the booing was for so it came as a shock to me when Caroline Wilson called the Hawthorn boos racist the next day. I didn't want to read that shit, we just won a flag and reading that self righteous spanker's overzealous attacks on imaginary racist taunts took some of the gloss off what was an otherwise perfect Sunday morning's reading. If Goodes or Wilson had been in my lounge room I would have boo-ed them for that alone.
In the game in question it was obvious. He was not booed at all before he did pushed Schofield to score their first goal and it was ignored by the ump:
http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-r...09&eventType=Goal&seek=2603&videoQuality=high
 

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The public record.... lets look at the "public record"
He called her out at the match - fact - racist
He called it a racist statement after the match - fact -
He called her racist - not only racist but "the face of racism" - the next day - fact

These are the "facts" and they are not in dispute. They are what HE said and what HE did without even bothering to speak to her.

After having 3 cracks at her, he then implores the media not to do anything - what did he think would happen?
He knew perfectly well - one thing Goodes is not, is stupid.
Every comment for that presser was thought out and considered.
His "war dance " traditional' - not traditional - "cultural"- not cultural - indigenous - made up - whatever it was - scenario was a bit of a fiasco though.
So is it your position that indigenous Australians must suffer racist abuse in silence because of what the media might do?

Is it also your position that they must consult with their abusers before reacting?

Perhaps Goodes should have asked for her phone number during a break in play so he could give her a ring the next day to clarify her comments?
 

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The public record.... lets look at the "public record"
He called her out at the match - fact - racist
He called it a racist statement after the match - fact -
He called her racist - not only racist but "the face of racism" - the next day - fact

These are the "facts" and they are not in dispute. They are what HE said and what HE did without even bothering to speak to her.
Guys, I mean it. Subaru needs to be left alone. He obviously can't be held responsible for his actions.

What he needs is support. Get around him. #subarustopswithme
 

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The public record.... lets look at the "public record"
He called her out at the match - fact - racist
He called it a racist statement after the match - fact -
He called her racist - not only racist but "the face of racism" - the next day - fact

These are the "facts" and they are not in dispute. They are what HE said and what HE did without even bothering to speak to her.

After having 3 cracks at her, he then implores the media not to do anything - what did he think would happen?
He knew perfectly well - one thing Goodes is not, is stupid.
Every comment for that presser was thought out and considered.
His "war dance " traditional' - not traditional - "cultural"- not cultural - indigenous - made up - whatever it was - scenario was a bit of a fiasco though.
wow. you are really determined to look like a clown arent you? im cringing a little now sorry
 

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wow. you are really determined to look like a clown arent you? im cringing a little now sorry
Then show me where those facts are inaccurate .... or again, is it just easier to attack the poster rather than the argument?

Personal attacks are the refuge of the defeated so take your best shot.
 

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Then show me where those facts are inaccurate .... or again, is it just easier to attack the poster rather than the argument?

Personal attacks are the refuge of the defeated so take your best shot.
Ok, you've gone to great lengths to type up your list of "facts".

What's your point?
 
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