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Bbut,bbut
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Any time some one posts about the violence of your heroes,there you are bbut,bbut Tarrant,Brevik.Please don't post about gutless fascists
See, this is what you do when you can't respond. You vomit up cut and pastes, and catchphrases like 'gutless fascist' over and over.
 

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See, this is what you do when you can't respond. You vomit up cut and pastes, and catchphrases like 'gutless fascist' over and over.
Bbut,bbut
Again and again
Any time some one posts about the violence of your heroes,there you are bbut,bbut Tarrant,Brevik.Please don't post about gutless fascists
 

CM86

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Don't believe in Democracy
Want a totalitarian one party state,with them in charge
Use violence and intimidation to silence any opposition
Definition of fascism

A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Realistically, doesn't that line up more with what Antifa oppose?

Where do you get the information that they:
1. Don't believe in democracy?
2. They want to run a totalitarian state?
3. They use violence and intimidation to silence any opposition?

Are these verifiable facts that you can fully support with evidence? Or your beliefs held about Antifa?
 

WA ROO

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1. Don't believe in democracy?
Violent protests before and after the last presidential election in the US
Same with the Brexit vote

2. They want to run a totalitarian state?
They want communism

3. They use violence and intimidation to silence any opposition?
Yep
Turning Point USA cannot go onto campuses for fear of violence
The terror attack at the ICE facility
G20 in Hamburg

Just little things
 

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Violent protests before and after the last presidential election in the US
Same with the Brexit vote
Who were they violent against?
And weren't they protesting what they believed was a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual?

They want communism
Stating that all of Antifa want communism, and that it means they want to run a totalitarian state is just a one-liner. Where is the depth to this point?
What does it mean? How do they all want communism, and how do they intend on achieving it?

Is it a realistic view, or throw away line?

Yep
Turning Point USA cannot go onto campuses for fear of violence
The terror attack at the ICE facility
G20 in Hamburg
Just little things
There are more examples of them engaging with opposition than silencing any opposition with violence.

Those seem to be very rare occurrences (that are worryingly increasing).

Do you support TurningPointUSA? Oppose? Or are you ambivalent towards them?
 

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Do you support TurningPointUSA? Oppose? Or are you ambivalent towards them?
Ambivalent really(Candace Owens isn't that hot)
But I do believe that they should be able to speak at campuses without threats of violence
Same for Ben Shapiro,Jordan Petersen,Jerry Seinfeld,Nancy Pelosi,AOC whoever
 

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weren't they protesting what they believed was a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual?
Thanks for proving my point
They were attacking people they disagreed with before and after an election trying to intimidate them
Whatever reasoning they used does not take away the fact that antifa were pi**ed off that they couldn't get their way
 

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Is all of Antifa bad? If anyone has ideologies similar to or the same as Antifa, are they bad?

Are their any positives to Antifa? Does anyone share any of the ideologies that Antifa has?

What classifies someone as Antifa?
Not all bad. No. Yes. Yes. Largely self identifying I would have thought.
 

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Ambivalent really(Candace Owens isn't that hot)
But I do believe that they should be able to speak at campuses without threats of violence
Same for Ben Shapiro,Jordan Petersen,Jerry Seinfeld,Nancy Pelosi,AOC whoever
Yes everyone should be able to speak without threat of violence.
Should we limit people's speech if they might use their words to create the threat of violence?
 

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Thanks for proving my point
They were attacking people they disagreed with before and after an election trying to intimidate them
Whatever reasoning they used does not take away the fact that antifa were pi**ed off that they couldn't get their way
That's not evidence that they don't believe in democracy at all.
 

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That's not evidence that they don't believe in democracy at all.
Violently attacking someone for voting the wrong way?
Violently attacking/trying to stop people wanting to attend the presidential inauguration?
Shutting down people campaigning for the unapproved party/views?
 

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Violently attacking someone for voting the wrong way?
Violently attacking trying to stop people wanting to attend the presidential inauguration?
Shutting down people campaigning for the unapproved party/views?
They were protesting what they believed was a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual.

That is the anti-fascist aim.

That doesn't mean they don't believe in democracy.

They aren't fighting to remove democratic institutions.
 

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