The Antifa Thread

[EasternTiger]

It will be interesting to see if the antifa supporters here disavow domestic terror groups.

One feels posters like Soft Downhill Skier are too far gone, and will go down with the sinking ship.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

It will be interesting to see if the antifa supporters here disavow domestic terror groups.

One feels posters like Soft Downhill Skier are too far gone, and will go down with the sinking ship.

You know the feds don't label domestic terror groups, right?

 

[WA ROO]

They aren't all violent, and there are relatively few incidents of random violence.

 

[CM86]

It will be interesting to see if the antifa supporters here disavow domestic terror groups.

One feels posters like Soft Downhill Skier are too far gone, and will go down with the sinking ship.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...included-in-official-terror-warnings.1224155/

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

lol. they stole the guy's hat.

 

[CM86]

lol. they stole the guy's hat.

He hasn't watched 40 odd minutes of footage in 15 minutes. He is just going by the thumbnails and titles.


Also he had to edit my post from "They aren't all violent, and there are relatively few incidents of random violence. (Which I condemn...) " and doesn't understand the word "relatively".

 

[EasternTiger]

You know the feds don't label domestic terror groups, right?

Well I'm no terror expert, so I don't know the specifics, considering antifa would be looked at more and more as an international organisation.

I do know you will defend antifa until the bitter end.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

He hasn't watched 40 odd minutes of footage in 15 minutes. He is just going by the thumbnails and titles.


Also he had to edit my post from "They aren't all violent, and there are relatively few incidents of random violence. (Which I condemn...) " and doesn't understand the word "relatively".

No he hasn't. I guarantee most is low level scuffling at rallies where white nationalists would be throwing just as many, destruction of property, more hat stealing, or videos just talking about violence.

And some would be anti-globalisation action, which he just merges into antifa.

 

[CM86]

Well I'm no terror expert, so I don't know the specifics, considering antifa would be looked at more and more as an international organisation.

I do know you will defend antifa until the bitter end.

Antifa is an international organisation?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Well I'm no terror expert, so I don't know the specifics, considering antifa would be looked at more and more as an international organisation.

I do know you will defend antifa until the bitter end.

It's a non-binding resolution that is political virtue signalling.

There is a separate list for designated foreign terrorist organisations which you can look up.

 

[WA ROO]

Deflect,deny,downplay
The gameplan is in effect again

 

[EasternTiger]

It's a non-binding resolution that is political virtue signalling.

There is a separate list for designated foreign terrorist organisations which you can look up.

Cruz has also suggested the FBI open a RICO investigation.

I'd initially go down that track. If that doesn't work then use the Patriot Act.

We all agree antifa are violent goons and must be stooped.

 

[CM86]

Cruz has also suggested the FBI open a RICO investigation.

I'd initially go down that track. If that doesn't work then use the Patriot Act.

We all agree antifa are violent goons and must be stooped.

I disagree.
The ideology isn't bad. There is an increasing violent element.

I don't believe they should be shut down just because their ideology opposes yours and right wing extremist groups.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Cruz has also suggested the FBI open a RICO investigation.

I'd initially go down that track. If that doesn't work then use the Patriot Act.

We all agree antifa are violent goons and must be stooped.

The FBI can be a politicised organisation, but it's a stretch to ask them to use resources against loosely affiliated groups who don't pose a lethal threat to anyone.

They do have some independence from government, and would recognise this as a political con.

There's already too many white nationalists who are killing people, and they need to be dealt with.

 

[EasternTiger]

I disagree.
The ideology isn't bad. There is an increasing violent element.

I don't believe they should be shut down just because their ideology opposes yours and right wing extremist groups.

Their ideology is flawed. As a result, their actions are violent and nonsensical.

You can't just ignore a terror group because you consider their perceived enemies as far worse.

Your argument amounts to 'Don't worry about locking up the Gambino crime family because the Yakuza are far worse.'

Think before you post.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Their ideology is flawed. As a result, their actions are violent and nonsensical.

You can't just ignore a terror group because you consider their perceived enemies as far worse.

Your argument amounts to 'Don't worry about locking up the Gambino crime family because the Yakuza are far worse.'

Think before you post.

No. These antifa people who throw punches or steal red hats or whatever can be dealt with existing assault and misdemeanour laws.

You'd hope that federal resources would be used on those who pose actual threats to others. Those stats have bee posted numerous times in this thread.

 

[CM86]

Their ideology is flawed. As a result, their actions are violent and nonsensical.

You can't just ignore a terror group because you consider their perceived enemies as far worse.

Your argument amounts to 'Don't worry about locking up the Gambino crime family because the Yakuza are far worse.'

Think before you post.

But they aren't a terror group. And that isn't downplaying, that is a fact.

Your position seems to be that Antifa is some kind of international crime organisation.
If that's your starting position... anyone not agreeing with your extreme view is going to look like they are downplaying any dangers involved with Antifa...

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

In my opinion ALL ethnic and religious nationalists/supremists are a brown stain on collective humanity. It is one thing to be proud of your cultural roots - it is quite another to use that pride in a forceful manner meaning to exclude other ethnic or cultural groups from participating in the society of your chosen nation, wherever it may be.

Ethno-religious nationalists and supremacists might well hold rallies and marches as the law allows and those opposed might hold counter rallies and such, but violence should only be dished out when those ethno-religious groups actually start attacking minority cultures or multi-cultural society itself. Islamists who want to attack the mainstream. Neo-Nazis who want to do the same. If they're marching or rallying it's okay to just drown them out with noise and numbers.

Don't acquaint their heads with the pavement until they actually start acting out their hate-filled ideology.

 

[CheapCharlie]

Lol hilarious, don't you have a proud boys email to answer. ASIO don't moniter the vegans in antifa ,they moniter the far right groups that people on this thread are members of to prevent another Chistchurch massacre.Get some perspective champ.

Thanks for your advice Big Boy.
Perspective wise, chief, it's unlikely that ASIO had been monitoring either Right wing extremists or left wing extremists until recently.
For as you would know, champ, the main and continuing threat are religious extremists, mainly of the Islamic variety. ASIO has done a reasonable job in keeping Australian society safe from these extremists,'ol squire.
But you don't work for ASIO do you? SO I guess your guess as to who ASIO do and don't monitor is just biased guesswork me 'ol captain.
Now, champy-chief, as to this claim that antifa is made up of ASIO monitoring-worthy vegans. Are you suggesting vegans are not to be trusted?

 

[CheapCharlie]

But they aren't a terror group. And that isn't downplaying, that is a fact.

Your position seems to be that Antifa is some kind of international crime organisation.
If that's your starting position... anyone not agreeing with your extreme view is going to look like they are downplaying any dangers involved with Antifa...

So antifa is a leftist version of the proud Boys?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Thanks for your advice Big Boy.
Perspective wise, chief, it's unlikely that ASIO had been monitoring either Right wing extremists or left wing extremists until recently.
For as you would know, champ, the main and continuing threat are religious extremists, mainly of the Islamic variety. ASIO has done a reasonable job in keeping Australian society safe from these extremists,'ol squire.
But you don't work for ASIO do you? SO I guess your guess as to who ASIO do and don't monitor is just biased guesswork me 'ol captain.
Now, champy-chief, as to this claim that antifa is made up of ASIO monitoring-worthy vegans. Are you suggesting vegans are not to be trusted?

Why would ASIO have any reason to monitor anti fascist groups in Australia?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Why would ASIO have any reason to monitor anti fascist groups in Australia?

Isn't that one aspect of what ASIO does?
Monitors dangerous extremist fringe groups that threaten and practice violence while attempting to undermine government?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Isn't that one aspect of what ASIO does?
Monitors dangerous extremist fringe groups that threaten and practice violence while attempting to undermine government?

Can you provide an example of this happening in Australia?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Can you provide an example of this happening in Australia?

I don't have free access to ASIO investigations

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I don't have free access to ASIO investigations

No, I was referring to any examples of them meeting your conditions to justify surveillance. Antifa in Australia. You have anything?