The Antifa Thread

[Chief]

Scorching condemnation.

Would you find it easier to express outrage if it was a pack of white skinheads attacking a negro?

I agreed: disgraceful humans. Violent criminals.

I dunno what more you need from me.

 

[Chief]

Fighting for inclusion my arse.


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Wow what does that have to do with anything?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Wow what does that have to do with anything?

In fairness it was in response to something I wrote.

 

[Rettolalia]

In fairness he was responding to something I wrote.

This.

 

[Chief]

Fair enough I must not have followed the flow of the thread.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Yes - some people are violent criminals.

How do you feel about the old feminist mantra that all men are rapists? Because you seem to be doing the same with with ANTIFA members.

I agreed: disgraceful humans. Violent criminals.

I dunno what more you need from me.

This "but not all Antifa are violent criminals" argument and constantly downplaying their intimidation tactics and mitigating their violence really grinds my gears. Whether you're a card carrying Antifa member who think that the "fascists" need to be stopped at all costs or merely align yourself with the group by non-violently participating by verbally abusing, intimidating or physically blocking conservatives from attending events that feature conservative, free-speech advocates and free-thinkers, then you make up the working parts of a communist flag waving, violent far-left extremist group that is no better than the extreme far-right versions with their nazi symbolism.

Are all Antifa violent criminals? Of course not, in the same way that not all ISIS followers and their backers aren't violent criminals/terrorists, but it's still a crime to do their bidding through financial means or otherwise. The sooner Antifa is recognized as a Domestic and International Terrorist group world wide the better, as far as I'm concerned.

And before you throw up, "so you would rather have white-nationalist, far-right extremists spreading hate & violence"? I did not say that nor do I condone those people. Contrary to the belief by many on the left, I don't see that statistically irrelevant numbers of neo-nazi's as any kind of legitimate threat, here or abroad. Nothing that law enforcement and intelligence agencies can't manage.

I also do not consider 99% of the people and organizations that Antifa are "protesting" to be "fascists" or "far-right" I also see the real reason/purpose for Antifa is to impose a hard-line socialist ideology.

If anything, groups like Antifa who spend most of their time trying to bully regular people from attending events of people that the far-left are ideologically opposed to and trying to shut down those events risks some who previously weren't ideologically aligned but also feel marginalized being radicalized to join actual far-right extremist fringe groups.

This constant shutting down of free-speech and conservative idea's and ideals by "progressive" socialists & globalists (many who mean well) really needs to stop. People are tired of being told how to think. We don't all want the same things, believe in the same things or want the same future. The more those on the far-left keep pushing their ideals and shutting down speakers from the centre and the right, the more push back there will be and the result will be more Donald Trump's. Just let people be FFS and we can all co-exist without all this ideological intolerance spiraling out of control.

 

[Chief]

Antifa are anarchists. Not socialists.

I have no real problem with people protesting fascism aggressively. Some of it is misdirected and some of these groups attract bad people. But the idea is sound.

The relative lethality of the various ideologies has been done to death. Lefty and anarchist terrorists have nothing on the fascists and other far-right mobs.

I don't have much sympathy with people being heckled going to see Ann Coulter. It's a nothing burger.

But the cops don't seem interested in protecting people, whatever their political affiliation, unless they're mining company representatives and officials.

 

[FireKrakouer]

I have no real problem with people protesting fascism aggressively. Some of it is misdirected and some of these groups attract bad people. But the idea is sound.

I'd argue that almost all of it is misdirected. Outside of Charlottesville, when have they ever protested actual "fashies"? Modern Antifa is a simple excuse for a generation with no great war to LARP and feel like they're saving the world, when all they're doing is jumping at shadows.

Nazi terror attacks are a concern, but IIRC all recent nazi attacks have been by lone wolves who were not part of any coordinated group. Punching people for wearing MAGA hats certainly won't solve the problem.

 

[Chief]

I'd argue that almost all of it is misdirected. Outside of Charlottesville, when have they ever protested actual "fashies"? Modern Antifa is a simple excuse for a generation with no great war to LARP and feel like they're saving the world, when all they're doing is jumping at shadows.

Nazi terror attacks are a concern, but IIRC all recent nazi attacks have been by lone wolves who were not part of any coordinated group. Punching people for wearing MAGA hats certainly won't solve the problem.

And almost nobody does. But it takes up news cycles.

Women being harassed outside abortion clinics? Yeah it gets a look in sometimes. MAGA hat wearer gets punched? WORLD NEWS!

 

[EasternTiger]

You'd think they'd choose their targets carefully.

Instead, I see them intimidating the very people they should be trying to attract to their cause ie. girls walking through a crowd of angry men alone, the eldery, gay journos.

Their behaviour is bizarre, and I don't see anything resembling commonsense coming from that group.

 

[maryjames]

Weak breed of brainwashed washed up no life confused fools.

Sad for them. How does one come to be so crazy. Even Obama said the far left need to get there heads checked.

 

[Rettolalia]

Weak breed of brainwashed washed up no life confused fools.

Sad for them. How does one come to be so crazy. Even Obama said the far left need to get there heads checked.

Just look at these faces.

So tolerant. So progressive. So woke.

So brave and stunning.

Like mugshots for a 21st Century Manson Family.



If CW 2.0 breaks out over there, these clowns will be lucky to see out a day.

 

[Groin guru]

You'd think they'd choose their targets carefully.

Instead, I see them intimidating the very people they should be trying to attract to their cause ie. girls walking through a crowd of angry men alone, the eldery, gay journos.

Their behaviour is bizarre, and I don't see anything resembling commonsense coming from that group.

Yeah, I've always found that as odd. That and the need to attack someone when they are aren't looking, prepared, or in large numbers. They wait for someone to attack and then they bravely jump in later. Then to top it off they start ridiculing the victim as if what they've done was a great accomplishment. There is no toughness in any of it. There is no standing up for what they believe in. Just cowardice.

 

[Rettolalia]

Yeah, I've always found that as odd. That and the need to attack someone when they are aren't looking, prepared, or in large numbers. They wait for someone to attack and then they bravely jump in later. Then to top it off they start ridiculing the victim as if what they've done was a great accomplishment. There is no toughness in any of it. There is no standing up for what they believe in. Just cowardice.

Look at the caliber of person in the mugshots I just posted.

Do they look like the sorts of people blessed with a willingness to fight and die in combat with there fellow man (and women)?

The literal outer edge of the modern gene pool. Nothing more.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Antifa are anarchists. Not socialists.

I have no real problem with people protesting fascism aggressively. Some of it is misdirected and some of these groups attract bad people. But the idea is sound.

The relative lethality of the various ideologies has been done to death. Lefty and anarchist terrorists have nothing on the fascists and other far-right mobs.

I don't have much sympathy with people being heckled going to see Ann Coulter. It's a nothing burger.

But the cops don't seem interested in protecting people, whatever their political affiliation, unless they're mining company representatives and officials.

They are both. Actually more Marxist than socialist.

What fascism are you referring to? Who are the 'actual' fascists and fascist groups that are so dangerous that our governments, law enforcement and intelligence services are unable to control that we require anarchist/Marxist arts degree students to protect us from their 'words'? Ann Coulter? She's not even close to being a fascist. Why even "heckle" people attending her event? (That was more than heckling, BTW) Downplay it as much as you like, but Antifa are not going to be winning over any non-loons acting like modern day brownshirts themselves. If anyone are the fascists it's them.

 

[EasternTiger]

Who are the 'actual' fascists and fascist groups that are so dangerous that our governments, law enforcement and intelligence services are unable to control that we require anarchist/Marxist arts degree students to protect us from their 'words'? Ann Coulter?

Magnificent post AB.

The argument from the lefties on srp is that Police, ASIO, Special Operations Group, and the Australian Defence Force are all outgunned by the likes of MILO, so we need antifa to act as a paramilitary unit in case he assembles a group of NAZIS on our shores, and destroys civilisation as we know it.

In lieu of any real fascists to fight, they like to stay limber by harassing women and old people.

 

[Rettolalia]

Classic Antifa. Cowards in groups, bullying women and old men.

It’s now time the fight was brought to bare upon them. Surely?

 

[EasternTiger]

Classic Antifa. Cowards in groups, bullying women and old men.

It’s now time the fight was brought to bare upon them. Surely?

I am with you brother.

 

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[Rettolalia]

Absolute morons

 

[Chief]

Just look at these faces.

So tolerant. So progressive. So woke.

So brave and stunning.

Like mugshots for a 21st Century Manson Family.

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If CW 2.0 breaks out over there, these clowns will be lucky to see out a day.

Catch up mate - already been posted a long time ago.

 

[Chief]

They are both. Actually more Marxist than socialist.

What fascism are you referring to? Who are the 'actual' fascists and fascist groups that are so dangerous that our governments, law enforcement and intelligence services are unable to control that we require anarchist/Marxist arts degree students to protect us from their 'words'? Ann Coulter? She's not even close to being a fascist. Why even "heckle" people attending her event? (That was more than heckling, BTW) Downplay it as much as you like, but Antifa are not going to be winning over any non-loons acting like modern day brownshirts themselves. If anyone are the fascists it's them.

As we know, Antifa are a minor player. The real threat is the far-right. This is verifiable fact.

 

[Rettolalia]

As we know, Antifa are a minor player. The real threat is the far-right. This is verifiable fact.

Tell that to the people of Portland.

 

[Chief]

Tell that to the people of Portland.

I’ll ask my mate who lives there. Neither he nor his wife have mentioned it.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Tell that to the people of Portland.

I’ll ask my mate who lives there. Neither he nor his wife have mentioned it.

Let's see what Portland Antifa are up to today...D'oh!