The Antifa Thread

[YippeeYiYeo]

So your answer to right-wing violence being hundreds of times more deadly than antifa, with "someone beat up someone"?

Now - the people were yelling about "try and run people over".

So, tell us the context here. We only see a coward-kick, not the previous part.

dude.... are you seriously an ANTIFA apologist or supporter?

 

[Chief]

dude.... are you seriously an ANTIFA apologist or supporter?

Everyone should be anti-fascist.

Are you seriously NOT?

 

[Mr Blicavs]

So your answer to right-wing violence being hundreds of times more deadly than antifa, with "someone beat up someone"?

Now - the people were yelling about "try and run people over".

So, tell us the context here. We only see a coward-kick, not the previous part.

First, a white guy was being robbed by Black Lives Matter rioters, one of which was Marquise Love who was dressed in a security uniform and pretending to work for Star Protection Agency. A transgender antifa person attempted to intervene and stop them, so they robbed the transgender person instead. That’s when a truck driver who was parked nearby tried to also intervene. He was attacked, prompting a white woman to try to help him.

She was punched and then tackled to the ground. The truck driver drove off when rioters tried to open his door but eventually crashed. The Marquise Love and other rioters pulled him from the vehicle and beat him nearly to death.



Not your best work Chief

 

[Chief]

First, a white guy was being robbed by Black Lives Matter rioters, one of which was Marquise Love who was dressed in a security uniform and pretending to work for Star Protection Agency. A transgender antifa person attempted to intervene and stop them, so they robbed the transgender person instead. That’s when a truck driver who was parked nearby tried to also intervene. He was attacked, prompting a white woman to try to help him.

She was punched and then tackled to the ground. The truck driver drove off when rioters tried to open his door but eventually crashed. The Marquise Love and other rioters pulled him from the vehicle and beat him nearly to death.



Not your best work Chief

unprovoked violence is not acceptable. We can call that a given.

Where do these videos show this story about robberies and the like?

In your video people are shouting "get out of the way", "get off the road" to let cars move along the road, including this guy's.

Some idiot kicked his car.

He sped off... then reversed back toward the small, milling crowd. Someone shouted he had no license plates?


Neither video backs up the story in your post.

When it comes to stories that make out that white supremacists driving around during rallies are blameless victims, you will have to excuse any thinking person for being skeptical.

If you have any sort of proof or article from a reputable publication or group, then I'm happy to read it.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

unprovoked violence is not acceptable. We can call that a given.

Where do these videos show this story about robberies and the like?

In your video people are shouting "get out of the way", "get off the road" to let cars move along the road, including this guy's.

Some idiot kicked his car.

He sped off... then reversed back toward the small, milling crowd. Someone shouted he had no license plates?


Neither video backs up the story in your post.

When it comes to stories that make out that white supremacists driving around during rallies are blameless victims, you will have to excuse any thinking person for being skeptical.

If you have any sort of proof or article from a reputable publication or group, then I'm happy to read it.

I fear your idea of a reputable publication is only one that will reinforce your own pre concieved idea that this bloke did something to deserve that.
Challenge yourself... if I can find them, you certainly can. Theres plenty eyewitness accounts of what happened. Even his "co conspirator" has dropped him in it.

 

[Chief]

I fear your idea of a reputable publication is only one that will reinforce your own pre concieved idea that this bloke did something to deserve that.
Challenge yourself... if I can find them, you certainly can. Theres plenty eyewitness accounts of what happened. Even his "co conspirator" has dropped him in it.

Let's say your story is true. Perfectly OK to accept that on face value.

Yes. Attacking defenceless people, and robbing people are both bad. Bad things to do.

Is this the entirety of the anti-fascist movement doing this?

You can see in those videos, people are trying to stop others blocking traffic, right?

Antifa itself isn't even one group - it's a bunch of autonomous groups and people. It's anarchistic.


Now, apart from ALL of this, what has this got to do with the stats on deaths that were the subject of discussion?

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

The lead moderator of these forums is an open supporter of a domestic terrorist group in the USA. What a time to be alive.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

Let's say your story is true. Perfectly OK to accept that on face value.

Yes. Attacking defenceless people, and robbing people are both bad. Bad things to do.

Is this the entirety of the anti-fascist movement doing this?

You can see in those videos, people are trying to stop others blocking traffic, right?

Antifa itself isn't even one group - it's a bunch of autonomous groups and people. It's anarchistic.


Now, apart from ALL of this, what has this got to do with the stats on deaths that were the subject of discussion?

You should have just left it at denouncing this arseholes actions.... youll find that Keese Love has a long history of violence and racism.
Interesting that you used the "dont tar them all with the same brush" argument with ANTIFA.... when thats exactly that they do to those to the right of them

 

[Chief]

You should have just left it at denouncing this arseholes actions.... youll find that Keese Love has a long history of violence and racism.
Interesting that you used the "dont tar them all with the same brush" argument with ANTIFA.... when thats exactly that they do to those to the right of them

The far right.


What has this got to do with deaths?

 

[Mr Blicavs]

The far right.


What has this got to do with deaths?

Far right = anyone who doesnt follow ANTIFAs narrative.


Do better Chief.... you're supposed to be the big wig around these parts. The voice of reason

 

[Chief]

Far right = anyone who doesnt follow ANTIFAs narrative.

The narrative being "fascism is bad".

Do you not think that fascism is bad?

 

[Mr Blicavs]

The narrative being "fascism is bad".

Do you not think that fascism is bad?

Yes I do...
Do you think ANTIFA are fascists?

 

[Chief]

Yes I do...
Do you think ANTIFA are fascists?

Define ANTIFA.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

Define ANTIFA.

Domestic terror organisation.... again, do you think ANTIFA are fascists?

 

[Chief]

Domestic terror organisation.... prove me wrong

Yeah this whole "debate" thing doesn't work like that.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

Yeah this whole "debate" thing doesn't work like that.

Yeah its your point of view or its nothing.... thats the very definition of fascism. Do better

 

[Chief]

Yeah its your point of view or its nothing.... thats the very definition of fascism. Do better

No, that's not the accepted process.

You made a claim, it's up to you to prove it. It's not up to me to disprove it.

So let's leave that and go back and look at deaths caused by far-right groups, compared to anti-fascists and lefties.

It's about 300 to 1 in the US in the last ten years, per the article I posted.

 

[Elroo]

Define ANTIFA.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Everyone should be anti-fascist.

Are you seriously NOT?

By that logic, everyone should support "democratic republics" like North Korea? And the National Socialist German Workers Party were socialists?

I think you'll agree that self-proclaimed titles shouldn't necessarily be taken as gospel.

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Jesus, its always been obvious to the regular poster that Chief is left leaning, but this far left...

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Everyone should be anti-fascist.

Are you seriously NOT?

I love how you didnt answer the question btw. Just stated that everyone should be ant-fascist then asked a question yourself. Almost as if your slightly ashamed to support ANTIFA.

 

[Chief]

I love how you didnt answer the question btw. Just stated that everyone should be ant-fascist then asked a question yourself. Almost as if your slightly ashamed to support ANTIFA.

Sure I do.

Bash the fash like we did in dickety-45.

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Sure I do.

Bash the fash like we did in dickety-45.

wow. Youre so edgy.

 

[Gough]

wow. Youre so edgy.

True though. Last time the far right put there heads up in any numbers decent people (see I can lay claim to them too) united to stop them. Both my Grans, a long way from dirty lefties and both who lost brothers in the war were adamant to their dying day it wasn't worth it but it was a price to be paid for stopping Hitler.

 

[Mr Blicavs]

True though. Last time the far right put there heads up in any numbers decent people (see I can lay claim to them too) united to stop them. Both my Grans, a long way from dirty lefties and both who lost brothers in the war were adamant to their dying day it wasn't worth it but it was a price to be paid for stopping Hitler.

ANTIFA arent decent people... and anyone who thinks they are, arent either