The Antifa Thread

[Socrates2]

I'm an admitted lefty, so let me state before I say what I'm about to say that there is no political bias in it:

You sound insane, and your postings come across as the ramblings of a madman.

You sound completely insane yourself, thanks for the continuing insults my 'lefty' friend. Who are your favourite 'lefties'? You seem easily influenced by Alt Right propaganda and sound a little unhinged. Are you completely mad? How are the insults treating you, it's your style not mine my confused friend.

 

[Stax on the mill]

You sound completely insane yourself, thanks for the continuing insults my 'lefty' friend. Who are your favourite 'lefties'? You seem easily influenced by Alt Right propaganda and sound a little unhinged. Are you completely mad? How are the insults treating you, it's your style not mine my confused friend.

Pot..Kettle..Black. Pretends to take the moral ground by whingeing about insults, then proceeds to hand out some of his own. Trifle hypocritical Socrates; but that's par for the course.

 

[Socrates2]

Pot..Kettle..Black. Pretends to take the moral ground by whingeing about insults, then proceeds to hand out some of his own. Trifle hypocritical Socrates; but that's par for the course.

It's called satire my insulting friend . You only post insults yourself. What do you expect me to do champ? Do you have anything at all to say? Are you afraid of Antifa? I'll give you a tip, if you stay in Australia and don't travel to America to search for small anti-racism protests you should be fine. If you do find the protest don't hang around it for 9 hours trying to provoke people by standing in the middle of the protest, and don't beg the police for attention. Do you think anti- racism protests should be banned because of this RWNJ?

 

[CM86]

Huh? He was hospitalised with a brain haemorrhage

Didn't he attend the hospital? And his lawyer told us that hr was diagnosed by someone, with a brain hemorrhage?

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Sure is victim blaming, the only people who would support those questions are s**t people.

But they popped inti your head.

Where did those questions come from?
You made them.

 

[Engimal v3]

You sound completely insane yourself, thanks for the continuing insults my 'lefty' friend. Who are your favourite 'lefties'? You seem easily influenced by Alt Right propaganda and sound a little unhinged. Are you completely mad? How are the insults treating you, it's your style not mine my confused friend.

I've always been an open centre-leftist. Your post appears to create the illusion that you've trapped me in some sort of "gotcha" moment, but I've always been consistent in my views.

I oppose those who wish to win political discussions by inciting physical violence and intimidation, in this country and also and in Western friends. When we have real, verifiable examples of this happening, I think there is reason to be concerned.

 

[Socrates2]

I've always been an open centre-leftist. Your post appears to create the illusion that you've trapped me in some sort of "gotcha" moment, but I've always been consistent in my views.

I oppose those who wish to win political discussions by inciting physical violence and intimidation, in this country and also and in Western friends. When we have real, verifiable examples of this happening, I think there is reason to be concerned.

The guy works at a far right website and went there deliberately to provoke and to get beat up. Some perspective please. If you compare these anti racist protesters with the far groups, there's no comparison about who is more violent.

 

[Poor Form]

No.

The communist party only narrowly lost the election the Nazi party won. Hitler understood they were his main rivals for power so staged the Reichstag Fire just four weeks after the 1933 election and blamed the communists do solidify his grip on power. This all occurred many years after Hitler's first speech at a Thule society meeting (who he was meant to be spying on, making him possibly the world's worst spy).

He used opposition to communists and their extremism to justify his own escalations and further his political goals. So i think the answer you were looking for was YES. My premise was that he used them to get into power at the expense of moderates i should have added, not that they created him or the Nazi party.

He was sent to join and spy on the DAP (who had strong links to the Thule society) and found their beliefs lined up nicely enough with his own (or perhaps was radicalized further by them) the DAP became the Nazi party. I would have thought other spies have fallen in love the group (or person) they were supposed to be spying on but yeah he was pretty bad far as spies go.

 

[Poor Form]

Didn't he attend the hospital? And his lawyer told us that hr was diagnosed by someone, with a brain hemorrhage?

But they popped inti your head.

Where did those questions come from?
You made them.

Well trying to read into the mind of the shitter who made the video would make me think shit thoughts I suppose. What was your aim in posting the video, I find it hard to believe you were posting it to disparage Antifa so a reasoned man might believe that you were trying to pose such questions.

 

[Engimal v3]

The guy works at a far right website and went there deliberately to provoke and to get beat up. Some perspective please. If you compare these anti racist protesters with the far groups, there's no comparison about who is more violent.

You're victim blaming, because the victim is right-of-centre. The reality is that a journalist attended a left-wing event and was assaulted to the extent that his brain began to hemorrhage. If Antifa and its associated groups had any level of self-awareness, this would be their "are we the baddies?" moment.

 

[Mofra]

He used opposition to communists and their extremism to justify his own escalations and further his political goals. So i think the answer you were looking for was YES. My premise was that he used them to get into power at the expense of moderates i should have added, not that they created him or the Nazi party.

Disagree completely - the communists weren't even a threat to his rise in Bavaria until after the 29 crash, in which anti-establishment parties garnered a huge powerbase within Germany.
Bavaria was a microcosm of Germany at large and Hitler learned from the power vacuum caused by Eisner's assassination (Eisner's current memorial is a weird nod to German humour).
He exploited a similar power struggle post-29 but the communists simply weren't his major target before then, especially considering his masquerading as a 'man of the working people' (via the DAP / NSDAP) and his 25-point plan specifically mentions Jews twice and omits any reference to communists.

 

[Echoes]

You didn't watch it...

Your right.

I turned off when the video showed two gay/trans Antifa and used that imagery to suggest that the idea that Andy Ngo (or anyone feeling at physical threat from Antifa) feeling threatened or being assaulted by Antifa is just a beat up, and to generally portray Antifa as simple, harmless non violent proponents of tolerance and fairness.

Antifa is not that.

 

[Stax on the mill]

It's called satire my insulting friend . You only post insults yourself. What do you expect me to do champ? Do you have anything at all to say? Are you afraid of Antifa? I'll give you a tip, if you stay in Australia and don't travel to America to search for small anti-racism protests you should be fine. If you do find the protest don't hang around it for 9 hours trying to provoke people by standing in the middle of the protest, and don't beg the police for attention. Do you think anti- racism protests should be banned because of this RWNJ?

You’re the one dishing out the insults “my friend”. So your abuse is satire, whilst the poster you responded to is dishing out insults? No need to get narky when I point out your hypocrisy. As for Antifa, they’re no better than what they purport to oppose. Bigoted, violent, intolerant new age fascists who get off by attacking and terrorising law abiding citizens. But hey, if that’s your cup of tea, who am I to criticise you?

 

[Chief]

I'm not sure, I'm working on your criteria here. Nazi is not a word I often use outside of the context of WW2. Can you give an example of someone who you consider a Nazi, so I can get a gauge on what sort of person's head you'd split open (or agree with others splitting open)?

This post writes itself:

Stormfront (website) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Chief]

Eisner's assassination (Eisner's current memorial is a weird nod to German humour).

"We'll always remember the comics he drew at the Gabba."

 

[Engimal v3]

This post writes itself:

Stormfront (website) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Haha, oh Chief! You're the only person who would consider a latte-sipping, Labor voting Brunswick resident like me as an antisemitic, white nationalist Holocaust denier because I dared to ask who you consider to be a Nazi.

 

[Socrates2]

You’re the one dishing out the insults “my friend”. So your abuse is satire, whilst the poster you responded to is dishing out insults? No need to get narky when I point out your hypocrisy. As for Antifa, they’re no better than what they purport to oppose. Bigoted, violent, intolerant new age fascists who get off by attacking and terrorising law abiding citizens. But hey, if that’s your cup of tea, who am I to criticise you?

If you want to reply to a post and seek me out to insult, then don't complain . Tell me how Antifa are bigoted? The Alt right is bigoted.You've again posted something incorrect and misleading. Antifa are anti bigot and the right are bigoted, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Engimal v3]

If you want to reply to a post and seek me out to insult, then don't complain . Tell me how Antifa are bigoted? The Alt right is bigoted.You've again posted something incorrect and misleading. Antifa are anti bigot and the right are bigoted, correct me if I'm wrong.

Chief unrelated to the topic at hand, but I just got a notification ("Socrates2 quoted your post...") from this post, despite not actually being quoted

 

[Poor Form]

If you want to reply to a post and seek me out to insult, then don't complain . Tell me how Antifa are bigoted? The Alt right is bigoted.You've again posted something incorrect and misleading. Antifa are anti bigot and the right are bigoted, correct me if I'm wrong.

Does this description disqualify "fascists"? I don't think it does so that makes Antifa self evident bigots.

 

[Patrick Bullet]

The guy works at a far right website and went there deliberately to provoke and to get beat up. Some perspective please. If you compare these anti racist protesters with the far groups, there's no comparison about who is more violent.

Are you talking about Quillette? If so, can you please provide your case for labelling it as "far right"? If not then please name the website because I'm curious. Thanks in advance.

 

[Stax on the mill]

If you want to reply to a post and seek me out to insult, then don't complain . Tell me how Antifa are bigoted? The Alt right is bigoted.You've again posted something incorrect and misleading. Antifa are anti bigot and the right are bigoted, correct me if I'm wrong.

You’re getting confused my friend. Pointing out your hypocrisy is hardly insulting you. I’m not complaining about me being insulted. Insult away. You need to read a bit more closely before posting a response.

Back to Antifa. Absolute scum of the earth. Violent, intolerant, jackbooted, new age fascists who are just as bad as those they pretend to oppose. Every time they rock up anywhere violence breaks out, mostly started by them. Then when the police move in they scream “police brutality”.

And yes, they are bigoted. Bigoted against decent, everyday, law abiding citizens, with their twisted view of the world, and their violent, intimidatory behaviour.

You’ve certainly revealed your true colours by getting into bed with that lot.

 

[Socrates2]

Chief unrelated to the topic at hand, but I just got a notification ("Socrates2 quoted your post...") from this post, despite not actually being quoted

What are you talking about mate? Please explain?

 

[Socrates2]

Are you talking about Quillette? If so, can you please provide your case for labelling it as "far right"? If not then please name the website because I'm curious. Thanks in advance.

He's mates with Tucker Carlson a known racist.

 

[Echoes]

He's mates with Tucker Carlson a known racist.

Known to who? Antifa?

 

[Engimal v3]

What are you talking about mate? Please explain?

Dunno, some weird forum bug. I got a notification saying you replied to me when you replied to Stax on the Mill

 

[Socrates2]

You’re getting confused my friend. Pointing out your hypocrisy is hardly insulting you. I’m not complaining about me being insulted. You need to read a bit more closely.

Back to Antifa. Absolute scum of the earth. Violent, intolerant, jackbooted, new age fascists who are just as bad as those they pretend to oppose. Every time they rock up anywhere violence breaks out, mostly started by them. Then when the police move in they wail “police brutality”.

You’ve certainly revealed your true colours by getting into bed with that lot.

Funny how you call a bunch of well meaning anti-racist teenagers 'absolute scum of the earth 'and yet I hear nothing from you about the Proud Boys. In this small, trivial ,singular example of a RWNJ getting punched in the head , due to hours of provocation from him ( even the police laughed him off), you seem to not even mention the Proud Boys who are the real scum of the earth. Maybe you're a fan of their's I'm not sure.Why was this 'reporter' not reporting them on that day.The antifa protest somewhere in America a long time ago,was organized to counter the vile racism of the violent Proud Boys . It was a counter protest against racism. Do you understand that and what is your opinion of the disgusting bigoted scumbags that are tha all white Proud Boys.Please mate some perspective please!