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That's definitely the narrative that is being pushed by white nationalists.
You didn't fall for it, did you?
What do you think will become of ANTIFA members in the future? From your comments, I'm guessing that you think they will all amount to nothing of relevance.
It's commonly accepted the Antifa types are the budding dictators of tomorrow
It's the narrative being spoken about by moderates
Which moderates?
Yes please.
Can you link us to the moderates who are saying that Antifa are the budding dictators of tomorrow?
Of course not. But you're completely aware that that's not what I was asking.You want me to link you people in my personal life?
Mate, i'd be embarrased to introduce you to be honest
Antifa exist to combat the white nationalists.
As white nationalism decreases, so will Antifa.
As white nationalism is increasing though, we see Antifa also increasing.
What makes you say that they thrive on violence and hate?I don't feel as if a group like ANTIFA that thrives on violence and hate will go quietly into the night as their opponents dissipate. They'll just find a new target, like how One Nation just picks the biggest non-white threat of the moment and runs on it.
Of course not. But you're completely aware that that's not what I was asking.
You said that it's commonly accepted that Antifa are the budding dictators of tomorrow.
Now that you've clarified that you just meant in your circle of friends... it makes a lot more sense...
I took issue with your first comment, which was ridiculous.Yes, i have many friends who are moderate, something you don't relate to
Generally speaking too, in a wider circle, its accepted Antifa are a danerous group
I took issue with your first comment, which was ridiculous.
Now that you've backtracked, all is well.
This was your point.I've stuck with my point
You do realise that opinions are held outside the bubble of Twitter or wherever you frame your opinions from
What makes you say that they thrive on violence and hate?
You're aware of what they oppose, right?
White supremacists...
White supremacists who have actually killed people...
In fact the thread you originally complained about Antifa in... was a white supremacist attempting to set fire to a building.
White supremacists exist for hate and violence.
So if you think that that is impossible to dissipate, then white supremacists will never disappear, so Antifa will never disappear.
Forget claims from either side.I'm sure that if I went down to my local white supremacist rally, they'd tell me that they only oppose dangerous people. Those at Cronulla had a sob-story cause, too. You'd have to be quite naive to take the claims on ANTIFA at face value.
On June 2, Luebcke was fatally shot in the head on his front porch in what appears to be Germany's first far-right political assassination since the Nazi era. The suspect — who made a detailed confession last month, only to retract it this past week under a new legal team — has a violent neo-Nazi past and police record, renewing criticism that Germany's security apparatus, with its long track record of neglecting far-right extremism, is still failing to take the threat seriously enough.
Forget claims from either side.
Look at the evidence.
Do you believe Antifa are as dangerous and violent, or more dangerous and violent than white supremacists?
If so, what do you base it on?
I believe that Antifa are less dangerous and less violent than white nationalists.
What?You'd have to assume white supremacists on numbers alone, given that 'white supremacist' is an adjective and ANTIFA are an organisation.
What?
The ideology is more dangerous for a start.There's probably millions of people that could be classed as white supremacists. I'm not sure that there would be a similar number of ANTIFA members, given that it is only one organisation.
For a reverse example to illustrate my point: "What's more dangerous, SJWs or the Ku Klux Klan?" There's millions of people that could fall under the 'SJW' banner, but how many KKK members are there really? Probably 10,000, at a stretch.
This is how genocide starts.