The Antifa Thread

[WA ROO]

They were protesting what they believed was a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual.

That is the anti-fascist aim.

That doesn't mean they don't believe in democracy.

They aren't fighting to remove democratic institutions.

So you believe the US is fascist state?

 

[WA ROO]

Who is that?

Did you agree or disagree with my previous post?

Islamic hate preacher that was welcomed into the country

 

[CM86]

So you believe the US is fascist state?

No. And neither does Antifa. That's why they weren't fighting the state specifically. Let alone democratic institutions.

Islamic hate preacher that was welcomed into the country

How recently?

 

[WA ROO]

No. And neither does Antifa. That's why they weren't fighting the state specifically. Let alone democratic institutions.

You heard about the bombing of the ICE facility right?

 

[CM86]

You heard about the bombing of the ICE facility right?

I believe the rhetoric being used by some democratic congresswomen needs to be reduce, as it may have incentivised that action.

But I don't see how that shows they want to get rid of democracy.

 

[CM86]

They appear to be against government brutality and dictatorships.
Yes.

How would you be able to identify someone as Antifa if they don't self identify?

 

[WA ROO]

I believe the rhetoric being used by some democratic congresswomen needs to be reduce, as it may have incentivised that action.

But I don't see how that shows they want to get rid of democracy.

Attacking government institutions?
These attacks pre date the "concentration camps" rhetoric
Attacking offices of the unapproved party,happened before and after the election
Labeling everyone that voted for the unapproved party as nazi's,white supremacists ete.
Making it acceptable for antifa to attack them

 

[CM86]

Attacking government institutions?
These attacks pre date the "concentration camps" rhetoric
Attacking offices of the unapproved party,happened before and after the election
Labeling everyone that voted for the unapproved party as nazi's,white supremacists ete.
Making it acceptable for antifa to attack them

You're embellishing.

Can you please give me a quick list of all the attacks on government institutions?

 

[WA ROO]

Round and round
Do your own research

 

[CM86]

Round and round
Do your own research

Now come on. These are your points that support your position.

I have done research. In America I can't think of another Antifa terrorist attack like the ICE bombing.

So when you say Antifa don't believe in democracy because they are communists/because of all of their attacks on Government institutions. And you list only the most recent and notable attack, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to ask you about others.


As far as I am aware, the ICE bombing is the most extreme Antifa act to this day. So I question you when you say it's been happening for years.

If you can't respond to it legitimately, that's fine. But don't pretend it's for any other reason.

 

[WA ROO]

Your posting history itt thread shows you are an apologist for antifa
You ask pointless questions demanding answers
Ffs you claim to not know who Louis Farrakhan is

What are really doing is trying to kill off this
Take your game plan back to the TDS thread

 

[CM86]

Your posting history itt thread shows you are an apologist for antifa
You ask pointless questions demanding answers
Ffs you claim to not know who Louis Farrakhan is

What are really doing is trying to kill off this
Take your game plan back to the TDS thread

All I've done is challenge your views. We've barely scratched the surface and you're struggling. But instead of taking a moment to reconsider, you instead blame me for you being unable to support your claims.

Why should I know who Louis is?

 

[CM86]

Your posting history itt thread shows you are an apologist for antifa
You ask pointless questions demanding answers
Ffs you claim to not know who Louis Farrakhan is

What are really doing is trying to kill off this
Take your game plan back to the TDS thread

I've just been reading about him on Wiki.
(Not sure why I should have known him by name).

During the 2016 Republican Party presidential primaries, Farrakhan praised Republican candidate Donald Trump as the only candidate "who has stood in front of the Jewish community and said 'I don’t want your money.'" While he declined to endorse outright, he said of Trump "I like what I'm looking at."[56] In 2018, Farrakhan again praised Trump for "destroying every enemy that was an enemy of our rise."[57] Conservative pundits Candace Owens and Glenn Beck both took note of Farrakhan's position, with Owens saying it was a "really big deal" that Farrakhan had "aligned himself with Trump's administration" and Beck declaring that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and urging "reconciliation" between conservatives and Farrakhan

 

[WA ROO]

All I've done is challenge your views. We've barely scratched the surface and you're struggling. But instead of taking a moment to reconsider, you instead blame me for you being unable to support your claims.

Your game plan is obvious
No amount of explanation or evidence will be enough
The inane questions will never end
You will lie claiming ignorance
You did this with echoes trying to get him
Sucks for you that I won't play your game

 

[CM86]

Your game plan is obvious
No amount of explanation or evidence will be enough
The inane questions will never end
You will lie claiming ignorance
You did this with echoes trying to get him
Sucks for you that I won't play your game

Can't sneak anything by you!

Well, the game is up. You win.

See you later.

 

[TimmeT]

Carn dude that’s enough isn’t it? This whole thread has turned to crap and you’re making it worse now.

its what kidd vicious wants. he doesnt want a group he supports like antifa being discussed.

 

[Jello_B]

How would you be able to identify someone as Antifa if they don't self identify?

Why does it matter? But in any case they have a dress code, normally protest together, and I am assuming they would have members through online subscriptions.

 

[Jello_B]

its what kidd vicious wants. he doesnt want a group he supports like antifa being discussed.

It’s ok if he supports Antifa that’s up to him. But I’d rather listen to his reasoning than the crud he is posting that is purposely turning this thread to pooh.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

its what kidd vicious wants. he doesnt want a group he supports like antifa being discussed.

I’m happy to. I’m asking for evidence for why they are to be considered a threat. All I got, typically, was the exact same post posted 7 times.

I’ll ask you aswell. Can you provide evidence that antifa provide a serious large scale risk?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Why does it matter? But in any case they have a dress code, normally protest together, and I am assuming they would have members through online subscriptions.

Online members? Where are you getting your information from?

 

[Jello_B]

Online members? Where are you getting your information from?

Yes, through Facebook forums and the like.

 

[CM86]

Why does it matter? But in any case they have a dress code, normally protest together, and I am assuming they would have members through online subscriptions.

Because I believe people are identified as Antifa, for being anti-fascist. And once under that label they are connected to 'violent extremism'.

To me. The Antifa ideology is mostly good, with some individual actions that are bad.
While white supremacist ideology is bad, regardless of any actions.

Calling someone Antifa shouldn't be an insult. But the violent actions should be condemned.

 

[Jello_B]

Because I believe people are identified as Antifa, for being anti-fascist. And once under that label they are connected to 'violent extremism'.

To me. The Antifa ideology is mostly good, with some individual actions that are bad.
While white supremacist ideology is bad, regardless of any actions.

Calling someone Antifa shouldn't be an insult. But the violent actions should be condemned.

Not sure about that, almost everyone would be anti-fascist. I am anti-fascist. But no one I know would think that I’m Antifa. And no one would connect me with violent extremism.

 

[CM86]

Not sure about that, almost everyone would be anti-fascist. I am anti-fascist. But no one I know would think that I’m Antifa. And no one would connect me with violent extremism.

Different degrees I guess.

Antifa seems to believe there is a rise in fascist ideology in America, and they are protesting it.

I don't think you'd agree that there is a rise in fascism in America.

 

[Jello_B]

Different degrees I guess.

Antifa seems to believe there is a rise in fascist ideology in America, and they are protesting it.

I don't think you'd agree that there is a rise in fascism in America.

No problems with them protesting it. But I feel that anti-fascism is only part of their agenda. They have a broad scope that is widening.
I am continuing to observe changes globally in government control. The world is in a volatile position and the US is only part of the conversation.