The Antifa Thread

[EasternTiger]

Clearly, antifa is a danger to the safety of the public, ICE detention facilities. journalists, and freedom of speech.

 

[Gough]

Clearly, antifa is a danger to the safety of the public, ICE detention facilities. journalists, and freedom of speech.

You strike me as the type who would jump at their own shadow though, that you're sh**ing yourself about this mob is unsurprising.

 

[Socrates2]

So if i declare myself antidickhead does that make everyone i disagree with a dickhead? Sounds like an easy way to be correct all the time i reckon.

Yes, how intelligent of you.

 

[CM86]

Using violence to censor differing opinions is fascist behaviour champ!

You can't call Antifa "fascist" because they have a tenuous link to fascist behaviour... which isn't even the major reason that that word exists...

I mean you can, but you can't do it with any form of integrity.

 

[CheapCharlie]

The notion that Antifa is protesting against Nazis only is deflection noise propagated by admirers of their violence and activities. Perhaps it allows supporters of Antifa to feel better about supporting Antifas mindless and cowardly violence.
It could also be a load of keyboard warriors living vicariously through the violent actions of antifa.

Whenever the unnecessary violence and unprovoked assaults of antifa are brought up the first response is "But what about the Nazis!"
Yeah, most everyone agrees Nazis are bad, but Nazis being historically bad doesn't justify the actions of Antifa protesters

An article back in 2017 from the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.162546fa66b6

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Whenever the unnecessary violence and unprovoked assaults of antifa are brought up the first response is "But what about the Nazis!"

I think the main response is putting it into context of wider political violence. It's been established as a drop in the bucket, so the question moves to why this threat is being exaggerated.

 

[Socrates2]

The notion that Antifa is protesting against Nazis only is deflection noise propagated by admirers of their violence and activities. Perhaps it allows supporters of Antifa to feel better about supporting Antifas mindless and cowardly violence.
It could also be a load of keyboard warriors living vicariously through the violent actions of antifa.

Whenever the unnecessary violence and unprovoked assaults of antifa are brought up the first response is "But what about the Nazis!"
Yeah, most everyone agrees Nazis are bad, but Nazis being historically bad doesn't justify the actions of Antifa protesters

An article back in 2017 from the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.162546fa66b6

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Lol hilarious, don't you have a proud boys email to answer. ASIO don't moniter the vegans in antifa ,they moniter the far right groups that people on this thread are members of to prevent another Chistchurch massacre.Get some perspective champ.

 

[CM86]

Whenever the unnecessary violence and unprovoked assaults of antifa are brought up the first response is "But what about the Nazis!"
Yeah, most everyone agrees Nazis are bad, but Nazis being historically bad doesn't justify the actions of Antifa protesters

Plenty of posters on this site have made a big deal pointing out that Nazis no longer exist, or that there are so few neo-Nazis as to not matter, etc.

Plenty of posters agree that Nazis are bad... but don't see any link between them and neo-Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists etc.
Some support those ideologies while saying that Nazis are bad, and don't exist.



I understand I shouldn't talk about this in this thread, but you brought it up.


Also, I condemn Antifa violence.

 

[WA ROO]

Also, I condemn Antifa violence.

Your posting itt has excused and downplayed their violence repeatedly

 

[CM86]

Your posting itt has excused and downplayed their violence repeatedly

Ok. Can you please link those repeated posts so I can either clarify them, or apologise for them?

 

[EasternTiger]

The notion that Antifa is protesting against Nazis only is deflection noise propagated by admirers of their violence and activities. Perhaps it allows supporters of Antifa to feel better about supporting Antifas mindless and cowardly violence.
It could also be a load of keyboard warriors living vicariously through the violent actions of antifa.

Whenever the unnecessary violence and unprovoked assaults of antifa are brought up the first response is "But what about the Nazis!"
Yeah, most everyone agrees Nazis are bad, but Nazis being historically bad doesn't justify the actions of Antifa protesters

An article back in 2017 from the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.162546fa66b6

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Good post.

There is no place for vigilante groups in society. As I said before, you also can't have a situation where a major political party has its own hit squad, like Murder Inc in the 1930's.

The sooner antifa are recognised as a Domestic Terror group, the sooner they can be stopped.

 

[Socrates2]

Your posting itt has excused and downplayed their violence repeatedly

You're just a troll champ.Trying to build up antifa to something they are not. It's pretty pathetic and embarrassing to be honest. Why are you concentrating on antifa and not mentioning the nutbag far right groups who want to murder muslims and bash immigrants and have killed over 100,000 people . I think you are what they call a gullible ideological zealot or a white supremacist apologist. Most people find racism disgusting but people like youself use it and think it's a great way to win votes. Keep up the propaganda comrade lol

 

[Socrates2]

Good post.

There is no place for vigilante groups in society. As I said before, you also can't have a situation where a major political party has its own hit squad, like Murder Inc in the 1930's.

The sooner antifa are recognised as a Domestic Terror group, the sooner they can be stopped.

Lol, sounds like you are quite paranoid or just lying champ.The police don't even moniter antifa so why do you care so much? RWNJs spreading fake news, I love it. I suppose you think there are some 'good people' in the groups antifa protest against? If you don't like Australia, go an emigrate somewhere champ. We don't need any more RWNJs here champ or any more Andrew Bolt lovers.Andrew Bolt makes millions of dollars slandering minoriy groups.What an absolute prick he is and so are his supporters.

 

[WA ROO]

Ok. Can you please link those repeated posts so I can either clarify them, or apologise for them?

Victim blaming

A different video about the Andy. (Or as some in the alt-right call him "The greatest weapon against Antifa")

I can't tell if it's satire or victim blaming... or if there is an element of truth to it.

He was only violently assaulted
Then the caveat

Andy Ngo was punched once and had some eggs thrown at him, and there is a global outcry about the immediate need for action against Antifa.

Right wing extremists have been killing people, and we talk about the need for free speech.
After James Fields drove his car into a crowd, this was followed by too much of the media and social media talking about trump and Antifa.

bbut bbut

I just think the right wing extremist violence should be talked about more.

Antifa has been used as a boogeyman to distract from the very real threat of right wing extremism. Extremism that has become more prevalent in politics and police.

Yes there are violent aspects of Antifa. Yes that's unacceptable.
But when the global conversation is almost entirely about the violence of Antifa, rather than right wing extremism, then we have a problem.

In this thread, people genuinely believe Antifa to be worse and more dangerous than right wing extremism.

So yes the violence of Antifa deserves a discussion, especially as its escalating.
But its hard to have a genuine discussion when there are so many lies and falsehoods being constantly pushed.

What do you think can and should be done about Antifa? Are you concerned that we will see similar escalations here in Australia as have been seen overseas?

 

[WA ROO]

You're just a troll champ.Trying to build up antifa to something they are not. It's pretty pathetic and embarrassing to be honest. Why are you concentrating on antifa and not mentioning the nutbag far right groups who want to murder muslims and bash immigrants and have killed over 100,000 people . I think you are what they call a gullible ideological zealot or a white supremacist apologist. Most people find racism disgusting but people like youself use it and think it's a great way to win votes. Keep up the propaganda comrade lol

Stalker alert

 

[EasternTiger]

Looks like antifa will be declared a terror group sooner rather than later. You know you've gone too far when even Donald Trump thinks you're too crazy for society to tolerate.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

bbut bbut

If you want concerted action to neuter something, it needs to be a genuine threat. Numerous posters have provided evidence that the political violence from antifa is a drop in the bucket of political violence.

So the calls for political action againist antifa are motivated by something else.

 

[CM86]

Victim blaming


He was only violently assaulted
Then the caveat



bbut bbut

Oh. You meant downplaying it in comparison to right wing extremism.

Because you replied to me saying that I condemn Antifa violence. Then said I repeatedly downplay it.

People complained that the right wing violence kept being brought up in this thread about Antifa. So I stopped doing it.
You even did it yourself.



As for Andy Ngo. I wanted to find a reason to not believe the situation, or to believe it wasn't as serious as it was. But the more I looked into it the more concerned I became about the increasing violence of parts of Antifa (which I've mentioned a few times in this thread).

Does that clear things up?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Looks like antifa will be declared a terror group sooner rather than later. You know you've gone too far when even Donald Trump thinks you're too crazy for society to tolerate.

Virtue signalling. They'll be around long after he's dead in the ground.

 

[CM86]

Virtue signalling. They'll be around long after he's dead in the ground.

He has had a problem with Antifa since Charlottesville.

I believe he sees them as opposition.

 

[WA ROO]

A grab bag of those you hate painted with the extremist brush

How many politicians have condemned Richard Spencer, Gavin McInnes, Trump, Shapiro, Milo, Stefan Molyneux?

There are current investigations into law enforcement who are supporters or members of these rifht wing extremists.
The law is working with these people to arrest Antifa members.



And my biggest problem is that anyone who opposes right wing extremism, is now considered Antifa. So it tales away from the very real and very important message that anti-right wing extremists are pushing, by lumping them all in as Antifa, and then talking about how dangerous Antifa are.

Those with the biggest problem with Antifa seem to be the ones who sympathise with the right wing extremists.
They don't agree with their methods or total ideology... but they think there is an element of truth to what they say.

Your answer to antifa showing up to Trump rally

Why shouldn't they?

Really a milquetoast conservative is fueling fascism

No. Shapiro is part of the problem and fuels the fascist ideology.

 

[CM86]

A grab bag of those you hate painted with the extremist brush



Your answer to antifa showing up to Trump rally

Really a milquetoast conservative is fueling fascism

Yep.

I condemn Antifa violence.

They aren't all violent, and there are relatively few incidents of random violence. (Which I condemn...)

You think they shouldn't be allowed to attend a Trump rally? Why not?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

He has had a problem with Antifa since Charlottesville.

I believe he sees them as opposition.

They are.

He's an authoritarian.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Your answer to antifa showing up to Trump rally

What's the issue here?

 

[WA ROO]

They aren't all violent, and there are relatively few incidents.