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[Art Vandelay_]

That's not what they were punished for. It was for the lack of governance wasn't it? They can't prove there was a drug violation at all.

Failing to tell them where your players are is a drug violation. It's more broad than simply taking illegal substances.

 

[jd2010]

Failing to tell them where your players are is a drug violation. It's more broad than simply taking illegal substances.

Haven't heaps of clubs been done for that though? And none of them got anything substantial

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Haven't heaps of clubs been done for that though? And none of them got anything substantial

This was deliberate. They were actually hiding Whitfield.

 

[jd2010]

This was deliberate. They were actually hiding Whitfield.

Gubby and Lambert were. The club didn't advise them to did they?

 

[Jatz]

Failing to tell them where your players are is a drug violation. It's more broad than simply taking illegal substances.

That's my point. When you say soft for a drug violation, you don't mean the actual taking of drugs?

 

[Loonerty]

I'm intrigued by the loss of draft points as a penalty. That's not something I had considered would be done. Not sure if I like it or not.

 

[Jatz]

I don't really like it either. Why manipulate the draft due to that indiscretion?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

That's my point. When you say soft for a drug violation, you don't mean the actual taking of drugs?

Pick 18 and 100k is a soft punishment. Very soft.

Soft because they year on year have oodles of points so will hardly miss 1000 and soft because the AFL still financially assist them so who exactly is paying the fine?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Hmmmm. On the one hand the Yarran family are hardly a beacon of professionalism so can we believe one of them.
On the other hand it would explain how you could go from minor premiers to 3rd last so rapidly. Whom to believe :/

 

[Van_Dyke]

His career was already over.





And there were plenty of reasons for our fall last season before we get to drugs etc

 

[kreglze]

Well IF it turns out to be true, I hope they are skewered by the Melbourne media like we were.

But could just be the ramblings of a bloke who is salty over getting turfed.

 

[Latro]

He is a nasty piece of s**t. Look at what he went to jail for.

Wonder if the Dockers board is atill defending him.

 

[gaskin]

It's funny that people actually think he wrote that. It may have come from his account but unless he is seriously the dumbest person on the planet then there is no way he wrote that. Especially considering the club is standing behind him and offering support during his legal battles. Right from the start "looking for a best friend" should tell you automatically it is someone taking the piss. Then if you actually read it out loud it is hilariously stupid.


If he did write it then he is the dumbest piece of crap to ever walk through the doors of a football club.

 

[jd2010]

It's funny that people actually think he wrote that. It may have come from his account but unless he is seriously the dumbest person on the planet then there is no way he wrote that. Especially considering the club is standing behind him and offering support during his legal battles. Right from the start "looking for a best friend" should tell you automatically it is someone taking the piss. Then if you actually read it out loud it is hilariously stupid.


If he did write it then he is the dumbest piece of crap to ever walk through the doors of a football club.

You say it like footballers have to be smart. There's every chance a footballer could actually be that dumb!

 

[Jatz]

Freo have been unable to contact him directly but he SMS'd an official saying he doesn't have a FB account. The account has since been deactivated.

Hard to say if it's him or not really.

 

[gaskin]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-24/yarran-facebook-drama-exdocker-tells-club-he-didnt-post-rant

 

[Latro]

Freo have been unable to contact him directly but he SMS'd an official saying he doesn't have a FB account. The account has since been deactivated.

Hard to say if it's him or not really.

A Freo player left a comment on the post so could be a typical AFL coverup.

 

[Van_Dyke]

A Freo player left a comment on the post so could be a typical AFL coverup.

It was another post that someone left a comment on I thought?

 

[Latro]

It was another post that someone left a comment on I thought?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Van_Dyke]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

IIRC Balic posted a comment on a photo of what I presume is Yarran's daughter or niece,

 

[Latro]

IIRC Balic posted a comment on a photo of what I presume is Yarran's daughter or niece,

Isnt the claim the whole account is fake?

 

[Loonerty]

AFL.com.au article ranking the backlines. Essendon ranked 17th

 

[Art Vandelay_]

AFL.com.au article ranking the backlines. Essendon ranked 17th

Ok I'll bite, based on their defences who'd you have yourself above?

17. ESSENDON
B: Mark Baguley, Michael Hartley, Matt Dea
HB: David Myers, Michael Hurley, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

"The Bombers' back half has been bolstered dramatically by the return of Michael Hurley and David Myers, and there is also the possibility of redeploying swingman Cale Hooker to a key defensive role. They have also extended the careers of 2016 top-up players Matt Dea and veteran James Kelly, while Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Michael Hartley gained many admirers last year and should continue to improve in a better team. They also have reasonable back-up with Patrick Ambrose, Mitch Brown and Aaron Francis also capable of playing key roles. However, there is no escaping the consensus that the reconstituted Dons lack the overall class of the bulk of their rivals and it remains to be seen whether they can establish the cohesion required to become a miserly mob."

The rest of the comp:

1. SYDNEY
B: Nick Smith, Heath Grundy, Dane Rampe
HB: Callum Mills, Aliir Aliir, Jarrad McVeigh

2. WESTERN BULLDOGS
B: Dale Morris, Marcus Adams, Matthew Boyd
HB: Robert Murphy, Easton Wood, Jason Johannisen

3. GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
B: Heath Shaw, Aidan Corr, Zac Williams
HB: Nathan Wilson, Phil Davis, Nick Haynes

4. GEELONG
B: Jake Kolodjashnij, Tom Lonergan, Jed Bews
HB: Zach Tuohy, Harry Taylor, Jackson Thurlow

(Nowhere near ours, Henderson will be in defence )

5. ADELAIDE
B: Luke Brown, Kyle Hartigan, Jake Lever
HB: Rory Laird, Daniel Talia, Brodie Smith

6. HAWTHORN
B: Taylor Duryea, James Frawley, Kaiden Brand
HB: Grant Birchall, Ben Stratton, Shaun Burgoyne

7. WEST COAST
B: Brad Sheppard, Tom Barrass, Will Schofield
HB: Sharrod Wellingham, Jeremy McGovern, Shannon Hurn

8. MELBOURNE
B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Michael Hibberd
HB: Jayden Hunt, Oscar McDonald, Christian Salem

9. ST KILDA
B: Dylan Roberton, Nathan Brown, Jarryn Geary
HB: Leigh Montagna, Jake Carlisle, Sean Dempster

10. NORTH MELBOURNE
B: Sam Wright, Robbie Tarrant, Marley Williams
HB: Shaun Atley, Scott Thompson, Luke McDonald

11. PORT ADELAIDE
B: Darcy Byrne-Jones, Tom Jonas, Jasper Pittard
HB: Hamish Hartlett, Jack Hombsch, Matthew Broadbent

12. GOLD COAST
B: Trent McKenzie, Steven May, Adam Saad
HB: Kade Kolodjashnij Rory Thompson, Jarrod Harbrow

13. COLLINGWOOD
B: Tyson Goldsack, Lynden Dunn, Ben Sinclair
HB: Jeremy Howe, Ben Reid, Brayden Maynard

14. CARLTON
B: Simon White, Sam Rowe, Lachie Plowman
HB: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Sam Docherty

15. FREMANTLE
B: Tommy Sheridan, Joel Hamling, Lee Spurr
HB: Michael Johnson, Alex Pearce, Garrick Ibbotson

16. RICHMOND
B: Kamdyn McIntosh, Alex Rance, Dylan Grimes
HB: Bachar Houli, David Astbury, Nick Vlastuin

18. BRISBANE LIONS
B: Darcy Gardiner, Jack Frost, Ryan Harwood
HB: Tom Cutler, Harris Andrews, Claye Beams

...

imo, you would be better than Richmond and Collingwood, the Tiges have 1 decent defender and boy he's brilliant so clearly their rating is purely Rance dominant. Collingwood's defence is just bog average. Port probably a tad high for me as that looks average also.

So not bothering to nitpick the best 8-10 defences as they all look decent I'd go:

11: Gold Coast
12: Carlton
13: Fremantle
14: Port Adelaide
15: Essendon
16: Richmond
17: Collingwood
18: Brisbane (although their youth does look good, just very raw atm).

 

[Loonerty]

Melbourne, St Kilda, Collingwood, Carlton at least I'd say.

Myers won't be playing defence. No idea what the author was thinking there. Tippa probably won't either.

Add the fact we have Hooker, Brown, Ambrose as talls with McKenna, Gleeson, Dea able to play off half back along with the likes of Kelly, Goddard and Stanton.

Our defence is not an issue for us.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Wouldn't give you Blues or Dees. Both have very underrated defences.
Simpson, Docherty, Plowman and Weitering is a very good core.
McDonald x2, Hunt, Salem, Jetta quite good as well.