Art Vandelay_
TheBrownDog
- Oct 28, 2012
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Steal by the Dees imo. Has the potential to be the best in the comp.
Should romp AA this year.
Should romp AA this year.
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The hottest of takes. A horridly bad take.
Oh for sure, I know it would be difficult but I just dont think Cripps would go to Freo, so we would just have to figure something out. I think Hurn might retire at the end of this season so all his money could go straight into the Cripps fund.He is a restricted free agent so it won't really be a choice of nominating. If WC have told their players to take a pay cut and they won't be bringing in anyone on big money he'd be likely to have to take under $500k a year from WC and you'd still need to work out a trade with us. At least with Freo he would get the $'s he'd be able to command and there's already a heap of young Vics on their list that could make a trade possible.
Surely you're smarter than this.Why? Just cos?
So I guess you dont understand football.not overly high no. McGovern overrated. Barrass and Sheppard underrated and better defenders.
If I join a thread and im 6 pages back. I find something I want to reply to, I reply.
Evidently you aren't.Surely you're smarter than this.
Quivorir just had an aneurysm.If I join a thread and im 6 pages back. I find something I want to reply to, I reply.
I return to 6 pages back continue reading. Find something I want to reply to, I reply.
This is the way.
Well you seem to not understand so I dont know...Evidently you aren't.
I mean no one else who replied understood either other than to assume it was you being dumb.Well you seem to not understand so I dont know...
You’ve been asked why you believe the comment you made.Surely you're smarter than this.
My claim had nothing to with how it gets done as I'm aware in our situation it would be quite difficult to get it done given our tight cap and the previous deal with Kelly that has hamstrung us a little.You’ve been asked why you believe the comment you made.
These 5 words don’t answer that question.
So why?
and I will ask you having made it clear that league rules prevent trading a R1 pick and west coast are tight for cap space.
and before you query the cap. Tom Browne (bs merchant) at Ch7, Jake Niall (The Age) and Cal Twomey (AFL) have all highlighted WCE as having a tight cap.
So I put to you that you have made a big claim borne out of nothing more than ‘we are West Coast and Freo are sh*t Ha Di Ha Ha’ so naturally he would come here... and had no clue that via Trade or RFA you likely don’t have the capital to get it done.
No idea why. If as you say he’s halfway through his career so a move home would be based around prospects of success then odd logic to say WCE.My claim had nothing to with how it gets done as I'm aware in our situation it would be quite difficult to get it done given our tight cap and the previous deal with Kelly that has hamstrung us a little.
My claim was just that Cripps wouldnt want to come home to play with Freo, he would want to come home and play for WCE.
The reasons for that is that he has wasted the first half of his career in a losing situation so would not want to make a big move just to go to another perennial loser. If he comes home he would want to play for WC. That's all I'm saying.
No interest about Geelong, we're not talking about them.No idea why. If as you say he’s halfway through his career so a move home would be based around prospects of success then odd logic to say WCE.
Likely finals cannon fodder in 2021. Unlikely to be better in 3 years time.
3rd oldest list this year. In 3 years time (by season’s end) Gaff is 32, Sheppard 33, Yeo 30, Redden 33, Naitanui 34, Kelly 30, Shuey 34, Cripps 32, Kennedy 37 (ret), Vardy 33, McGovern 32, Hurn 37 (ret), Darling 32.
How many of those are in your best 10 players? Maybe 8-9?
Fremantle 13th oldest list. In 3 years time the following players will be over 30. Mundy 39 (ret), Conca 32, Fyfe 33, Walters 33, Wilson 31, Taberner 31, Hamling 31, Hill 34, Colyer 33, Lobb 31.
Certainly looks a more replaceable group than yours. Younger team so has growth left, has recent high picks, more picks to come.
If you are right and he doesn’t want Freo then he’d be choosing WCE for money and to come home. Not success.
If he’s after success then either Freo have that scope for growth or he re-signs with Carlton.
And before you think about making it about my club, 2nd oldest list so that cliff may arrive for us soon enough too.
No interest about Geelong, we're not talking about them.
Sure you can say a lot of our players are a little bit older. But history will tell you that doesnt matter. WCE are a club that generally succeeds and Freo just arent.
West Coast have played 34 full seasons in the AFL and 25 out of those 34 seasons we have played Finals, winning 4 flags. Fremantle on the other hand has played 25 full seasons making the finals just 7 times for 0 flags. They havent made the finals since 2015.
So the proof is in the pudding, will we need to replace aging stars, yes, but we've done it in the past and continue to be successful. I'm sure we will do it again.
Cripps I'm sure wouldnt be too keen to join another perennial loser club like Freo. Not saying we would win a flag if he joined but history suggest we'd be the far better bet for him for a bit of success if he were to return home.
How we get him would be another story and would prove quite difficult given our situation.
Uh... what? Mundy is going to win the rising star soon, not retire.Fremantle 13th oldest list. In 3 years time the following players will be over 30. Mundy 39 (ret), Conca 32, Fyfe 33, Walters 33, Wilson 31, Taberner 31, Hamling 31, Hill 34, Colyer 33, Lobb 31.
Huh?Patrick Cripps has won none of those flags, so he won’t care about your history.
History means Fk All. Two of those flags happened before he was born. Might as well stay at Carlton, they've won a lot of flags.Huh?
I'm saying WCE have a history of success, Freo dont. Of course he will care about history as it suggest what is likely to happen in the future.
Said that about Kelly too. Still made that happen.He also wont care for history when his manager says you've got very little chance getting a trade done with WC but if you want to go back to WA then Carlton and Freo have a lot more chance making it happen
Freo's youth isnt even that good?Yea, you do. Cripps still won’t care about your history if he likes Fremantle’s youth more.