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jd2010

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Considering the few lucky breaks we got with umpires call LBW's going as not out for a few that looked out to the naked eye we can't really complain
 

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Considering the few lucky breaks we got with umpires call LBW's going as not out for a few that looked out to the naked eye we can't really complain
Agreed. In addition to the Paine run out in the first innings which should’ve been given out imo.

Got to give credit to India overall, even with Yadav down (possibly for the series, calf muscle I heard) they still are managing to get it done.
 

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Cummins and Green showed a lot of patience and fight, with solid techniques. Some of their top order mates should be taking notes.
 

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Cummins and Green showed a lot of patience and fight, with solid techniques. Some of their top order mates should be taking notes.
The only positives from an Aussie perspective have been Green, Wade, Cummins and Marnus. Next test (pending fitness) should be:

Pucovski/Harris (if Puck not fit)
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Wade
Green
Paine (c, +)
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood

Starc has not bowled well since day 1 of the first test.
 

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The only positives from an Aussie perspective have been Green, Wade, Cummins and Marnus. Next test (pending fitness) should be:

Pucovski/Harris (if Puck not fit)
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Wade
Green
Paine (c, +)
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood

Starc has not bowled well since day 1 of the first test.
Warner I’ve read is still touch and go for the third test, obviously he’s a no brainer to include straight back in if fit. He’d be a huge boost especially with getting the run rate going.

It wasn’t just Burns failing again yesterday that was a worrying sign, it was how all at sea he looked. He was out there for what, 10 minutes maybe? And in that time he lost his sh*t almost running himself out a couple of times, and should’ve been given out LBW to Bumrah.

No composure at all. Sure they’re a world class attack and there’s a lot of pressure out there. Contrast that to the way Cummins and Green dig in for the task, and back their technique. It reflects really poorly on Burns and he just doesn’t look like he belongs at this level unfortunately.
 

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Some pretty random and impressive stats in this. Siraj with a hell of good debut alongside Gill.

I knew the run rate for Australia was quite low, didn’t realise how unusual it was though. Lowest since 1990, wow. 103 overs in the second innings and just scraped to 200. Some damn good bowling and pressure from India. Without Warner or Smith firing, there’s a lack of someone who can score quickly and keep the runs ticking over.
 

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Some pretty random and impressive stats in this. Siraj with a hell of good debut alongside Gill.

I knew the run rate for Australia was quite low, didn’t realise how unusual it was though. Lowest since 1990, wow. 103 overs in the second innings and just scraped to 200. Some damn good bowling and pressure from India. Without Warner or Smith firing, there’s a lack of someone who can score quickly and keep the runs ticking over.
run rate was pathetic from the aussies, India did bowl well, but we just didn’t find gaps or play shots, let their bowlers dictate way to much and then the pressure kept building and each batsmen just fell into a hole.

With Smith badly out of form, our batting is shocking, especially with no Warner. We really do bank on those 2 making a heap of runs when we play in Australia. Mar us is a very solid bat now too though.
 

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Thought Warner was looking okay in his short innings, clearly looking to score quickly and get the runs ticking over. Fell pretty easily for Siraj’s trap though.

India’s bowling continues to be hampered by injuries, I’m guessing Saini on debut will be targeted. If this damn rain stops of course.
 

jd2010

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The ICC need to sort out a better test championship and/or ranking system. NZ being ranked #1 is a massive joke.

Played nearly half the amount of tests as England. 8 out of the 11 series in the counted period were at home. Their record in the 3 away series was the white wash defeat to us last year, a win in neutral UAE against Pakistan and a drawn series against Sri Lanka.

Would be good if the ICC could incorporate 6 match test series 3 home & 3 away between say the top 4 sides to properly determine who would win a test series between two even nations. Think the NZ-Aus series would be pretty close and assuming the weather held up we'd get up 4-2 possibly 5-1. Would think that India would get us quite easily 4-2 or 5-1, and would do the same to NZ. England probably worthy of the 4th spot
 

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When you look at other results, NZ probably deserve it with India being the only other nation you could make a case for the #1 spot. In the last few years, NZ beat Pakistan in the UAE and Sri Lanka away and we lost both series. They smacked India at home who we are currently struggling against (and also lost the last series against them). For whatever reason, they just turn to water whenever they play the Aussies (I'm convinced it's between the ears).
 

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When you look at other results, NZ probably deserve it with India being the only other nation you could make a case for the #1 spot. In the last few years, NZ beat Pakistan in the UAE and Sri Lanka away and we lost both series. They smacked India at home who we are currently struggling against (and also lost the last series against them). For whatever reason, they just turn to water whenever they play the Aussies (I'm convinced it's between the ears).
They drew against SL.

India don't match up well for Nz conditions at all. Bumrah would go alright but the rest of their bowlers would be average at best. And then even the best batsmen struggle in overcast conditions with Southee and Boult bowling at them. In a 3 test series over there we'd go alright possibly win the series at very least take a test
 

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Nothing wrong with the rankings they have been in place for decades, and at present NZ are doing the best. The Future tours schedule now ensures that all nations play each other over a 5 year period (ICC_Tours.pdf ). This being affected by covid is unavoidable but overall the system works fine.

As for the test championship, that works even better. Points are allocated based around 120 per series and the points per test changes depending on the length of the series so really regardless of length or location each series has equal weight, and given all series between the top 9 nations from 2019 to 2023 are for test championship points that will be that either in the this test championship 19-21 or 21-23 all nations will contest matches for points with everyone else.
 

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Pant’s glovework was average at times even in the last tour. Geez he’d want to make some big runs to justify playing ahead of Saha, which I believe is what India’s rationale was in bringing him once Kohli left.
 

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So there's a test championship final at lords for the first time ever. Hopefully it's us vs the kiwis
 

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Should Warner be playing? Hard to decipher for certain, he looked very ginger in that chase (if you can call it that) to the boundary. If he injures himself further and does more damage, would really have to question how wise it is that he’s out there.
 

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