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glenferry23

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This is actually good news. Paine is sh*t. Get Carey in and make Smudge or Cummins skipper.
Supposedly he’s still available for selection and will play in the XI, I don’t think Paine has retired as such. Although that may change.

He’s going to cop a barrage of sledging etc. Given the sh*t he dishes out. It’s going to come back in spades.

Surely Smith can never captain again, that'd be a bit dodgy.
I tend to agree. Shouldn’t be captain again. Still a leader of the side and his experience/advice is drawn upon. However can’t make him the formal captain again I feel.

The text exchange is rather tame.

The CA PR machine essentially axing him for the dick pic.
I haven’t seen that, was there a link or something to the text exchange? I wonder why this has all come back to bite him now when the incident(s) were from 2017ish.
 

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I haven’t seen that, was there a link or something to the text exchange? I wonder why this has all come back to bite him now when the incident(s) were from 2017ish.
I dont get how a happily married man can text this sh*t. What a scumbag.
 

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I dont get how a happily married man can text this sh*t. What a scumbag.
Geez. He has a very forgiving partner indeed.

It’s not like he was some teenager who just burst onto the scene and struggling to deal with the new found fame and attention, and texted something inappropriate as a result. He still would’ve been what, 32 or 33 at that time? And married. It’s idiotic stuff.
 

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Supposedly he’s still available for selection and will play in the XI, I don’t think Paine has retired as such. Although that may change.

He’s going to cop a barrage of sledging etc. Given the sh*t he dishes out. It’s going to come back in spades.



I tend to agree. Shouldn’t be captain again. Still a leader of the side and his experience/advice is drawn upon. However can’t make him the formal captain again I feel.



I haven’t seen that, was there a link or something to the text exchange? I wonder why this has all come back to bite him now when the incident(s) were from 2017ish.
Paine being in the side is a distraction the team don't need imo. If there is an adequate replacement then Paine should be dropped.

I think Smith is the only viable candidate to be captain for the Ashes. Too hard to give it to Cummins a few weeks before an Ashes series. It would be unfair on him. Smiths captaincy could just be an interim measure and he could be replaced by Cummins after the series. The general public will have their own thoughts but Smith has the respect of everyone in the Australian dressing room and they follow him.

Paine got tipped off that the text exchange was going to be made public and quit.
 

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I think the main reason Smith shouldn’t be captain again is he wasn’t any good at it the first time around, and it would only be tougher this time. I wouldn’t be completely surprised to see Head or Usman take it on short term for the summer.
 

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Paine being in the side is a distraction the team don't need imo. If there is an adequate replacement then Paine should be dropped.

I think Smith is the only viable candidate to be captain for the Ashes. Too hard to give it to Cummins a few weeks before an Ashes series. It would be unfair on him. Smiths captaincy could just be an interim measure and he could be replaced by Cummins after the series. The general public will have their own thoughts but Smith has the respect of everyone in the Australian dressing room and they follow him.

Paine got tipped off that the text exchange was going to be made public and quit.
Yes it certainly will be a distraction. He’s going to cop a barrage. Maybe that decision needs to be taken out of his hands.

Agree that it’s asking too much of Cummins. I think he’d be fine as captain however would prefer to let him focus on his bowling and keeping himself fit etc, now that he’s overcome those earlier injuries.
 

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People do remember how bad Smith was as captain before the Cape Town incident, right? Making him captain would be a very idiotic call.

Cummins will be fine
 

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Yes it certainly will be a distraction. He’s going to cop a barrage. Maybe that decision needs to be taken out of his hands.

Agree that it’s asking too much of Cummins. I think he’d be fine as captain however would prefer to let him focus on his bowling and keeping himself fit etc, now that he’s overcome those earlier injuries.
this could all be avoided if Paine took it out of his hands to start with
 

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How the CA could have ever thought this would not come out one day. How could it not be a breach of conduct for a captain? Captain of national cricket holds a high expectation. To think they were prepared to sit on a time bomb for three years in todays environment is mind boggling
 

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How the CA could have ever thought this would not come out one day. How could it not be a breach of conduct for a captain? Captain of national cricket holds a high expectation. To think they were prepared to sit on a time bomb for three years in todays environment is mind boggling
I can’t shake this feeling either, how the fu** could they appoint him captain knowing this? All because it didn’t constitute a “breach of the code of conduct”? I’m guessing the code itself was written by middle aged white men (“the suits”). They may need to revisit that document.
 

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I can’t shake this feeling either, how the fu** could they appoint him captain knowing this? All because it didn’t constitute a “breach of the code of conduct”? I’m guessing the code itself was written by middle aged white men (“the suits”). They may need to revisit that document.
I think they may have already appointed him before they found out about it. But how they did not find it a breach of conduct and done something then is mind boggling. I think they were scared shitless of another hit to the brand on top of sandpaper gate
 

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I think they may have already appointed him before they found out about it. But how they did not find it a breach of conduct and done something then is mind boggling. I think they were scared shitless of another hit to the brand on top of sandpaper gate
After that debacle in South Africa there was enormous pressure to rebrand the image of the team. Paine was put forward as that new clean face with the good guy image, and to a large extent he did that well (except for his ridiculous sledging from behind the stumps at times).

It seems brand management took priority at the expense of all else. The executives at the time surely need to answer some tough questions now. Even if they found out after he was appointed captain, there still could have been a way to put a new captain in place whilst managing that transition etc.

There are lots of failures in this. It’s utterly embarrassing and am just about checked out of this side.
 

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After that debacle in South Africa there was enormous pressure to rebrand the image of the team. Paine was put forward as that new clean face with the good guy image, and to a large extent he did that well (except for his ridiculous sledging from behind the stumps at times).

It seems brand management took priority at the expense of all else. The executives at the time surely need to answer some tough questions now. Even if they found out after he was appointed captain, there still could have been a way to put a new captain in place whilst managing that transition etc.

There are lots of failures in this. It’s utterly embarrassing and am just about checked out of this side.
Can’t blame you, the last two captains have now resigned in disgrace. Think Pat Cummins would be a step forward ..seems a decent lad
 

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