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The Australian Greens - What are they Doing?
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The simplest solution would have been monitoring, reporting and personal guarantees including criminal recourse. Then seek world's best practice with step changes to achieve that outcome.
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Maybe brush up a bit on the economics of the world then you’ll understand why this is the case globalisation and when they took the dollar from the gold standard
Then you’ll understand how the left are the spokesmen and arse clowns for this purpose and there followers are nothing more than dumbed down sheeple
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I doesn't surprise me Bomberboyokay that you'd be in "the camp" supporting racism and abuse of the vulnerable
denying the yellow peril of food and working black kids to death from cobalt poisoning
Our society can be so wonderful sometimes and so cruel others. I guess a society is only as strong as its weakest links BBoy.
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No, I gave you a day off for parroting antisemitic conspiracy theories on here.
What makes you think I'm a leftist? Do we know each other from one of your past incarnations?
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I’m still waiting for your reply in my inbox that proved you wrong in every area about Soros!
Btw how is that leftist rag piece the guardian still a credible source as it was founded with money from slavery! Just saying as everything else has has been related to slavery has been torn down or not allowed to exist
So, ScoMo's new snake in Eden-monaro has history of trying to bully local council into ill conceived planning. And greens are the problem 
The New South Wales Rural Fire Service had made repeated objections to the plan as far back as 2015 rejecting the council’s claim it had complied with a statutory objective to plan for bushfire hazards, warning the plan “does not achieve the primary objective to protect life, property and the environment”.
Here she is in action:
The New South Wales Rural Fire Service had made repeated objections to the plan as far back as 2015 rejecting the council’s claim it had complied with a statutory objective to plan for bushfire hazards, warning the plan “does not achieve the primary objective to protect life, property and the environment”.
Here she is in action:
Could you give a bit more detail? I’m interested, but I can barely be bothered to watch my own council’s webcast.
She wanted the land rezoned to be able to develop in a way the RFS thought was irresponsible. Ie opening it up to childcare, bnbs, aged care facilities, etc in bushfire prone zones.
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Just another pig ignorant rentagospel looking to get her snout in the trough. Absolutely typical of the modern anti intellectual right.So, ScoMo's new snake in Eden-monaro has history of trying to bully local council into ill conceived planning. And greens are the problem
The New South Wales Rural Fire Service had made repeated objections to the plan as far back as 2015 rejecting the council’s claim it had complied with a statutory objective to plan for bushfire hazards, warning the plan “does not achieve the primary objective to protect life, property and the environment”.
Here she is in action:
Thought about the Australian Greens today, and why they continually have a pretty basic showing poll wise, despite their policy platform aligning well with left leaning inner city suburbs, and those aged under 35.
Are the greens ever going to be a political force, or merely 'protest' party?
Are the greens ever going to be a political force, or merely 'protest' party?
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Like ONP, everyone else is disgusted by them
Greens attract protest votes from ALP voters who can’t support the ALP candidate or are upset at the ALP Government
In Victoria they should be setting up for their best ever result in 2022, but their support of the omnibus bill will hopefully become common knowledge and should sink them from gaining anyone else.
Come on man, why you gotta mislead people like that? The Greens have specifically said they won't pass the bill unless the power to determine who can be detained is not given to police officers, PSOs or security guards.
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Well then they are full of s**t
COVID-19 OMNIBUS (EMERGENCY MEASURES) AND OTHER ACTS AMENDMENT BILL 2020 — Order read for resuming debate on question — That this Bill be now read a second time.
Question — That this Bill be now read a second time and a third time — put.
The House divided (the Speaker, Mr Brooks, in the Chair) —
AYES 39
Chris Brayne; Josh Bull; Anthony Carbines; Ben Carroll; Sarah Connolly; Lily D’Ambrosio; Steve Dimopoulos; Luke Donnellan; Paul Edbrooke; Martin Foley; Matt Fregon; Bronwyn Halfpenny; Katie Hall; Dustin Halse; Paul Hamer; Jill Hennessy; Sam Hibbins; Melissa Horne; Natalie Hutchins; Marlene Kairouz; John Kennedy; Sonya Kilkenny; Gary Maas; Frank McGuire; James Merlino; Martin Pakula; Tim Pallas; Danny Pearson; Tim Read; Pauline Richards; Ellen Sandell; Ros Spence; Nick Staikos; Natalie Suleyman; Meng Heang Tak; Jackson Taylor; Kat Theophanous; Vicki Ward; Gabrielle Williams.
NOES 21
Neil Angus; Brad Battin; Roma Britnell; Tim Bull; Matthew Guy; Tim McCurdy; Cindy McLeish; David Morris; James Newbury; Danny O’Brien; Michael O’Brien; Richard Riordan; Brad Rowswell; Ryan Smith; Tim Smith; David Southwick; Louise Staley; Bridget Vallence; Nick Wakeling; Peter Walsh; Kim Wells.
They will push to amend it in the Legislative Council. The government has a majority in the Legislative Assembly, and so it wouldn't have mattered if the Greens MLAs had voted yes, no, or started square dancing, the bill would have passed the Assembly regardless. They don't have a majority in the Legislative Council though.
The bill contains many other things concerning workplace health and safety which they want passed, so the aim is to amend it rather than kill it entirely on arrival.
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Yet at the end of the day it’s down as them voting yes in its current form and if they convince 2-3 crossbenchers to pass as is, history will show the Greens supported it without amendments
Their voter base is generally well educated, but there's only something like 28% of Aussies that have a Bachelor degree or higher. So it's a pretty small pool.
The Greens brand - in many ways the most valuable political brand in the country - is a bit of a double-edged sword. It secures a huge swathe of 'environment first' votes, but those votes don't really come with a fixed location (either geographically or on the political spectrum). It is also not owned centrally by a single national party, but severally by a diverse group of state parties who have different origins, priorities, and absolute control over their own destinies.
This throws up some unique problems for the Greens. For example, the NSW Greens deliver ten times the votes (and thus ten times the electoral funding) to the national Greens movement compared to Tasmania – but Tasmania delivers twice the number of seats (and thus has double their representation in the party room). The NSW and Tasmanian Greens couldn’t be more different – the former grew out of the Marrickville Marxists in the 70s and 80s, the latter started with hippies and environmentalists. This creates some pretty unbalanced and vested interests when it comes to deciding things like national policy and electoral strategy.
Winning inner-city seats (where their vote is concentrated enough to be in the running) is also quite hard, because you are trying to straddle some pretty diverse demographics. Tree tories and watermelons might both vote Greens because they agree on the environment, but they disagree on pretty much everything else. In a seat like Sydney, they polled 18% last year but came third behind the ALP and Liberals. Going left doesn’t work there - getting enough votes to beat Tania Plibersek means taking votes away from the Liberal candidate. That is pretty difficult when your national party room is more interested in reelecting senators in Tasmania. It is a similar story in leafy inner city suburbs where it is a Liberal v Greens contest – they escape being squeezed by Labor, but even environmentally-minded doctors’ wives have one eye on their husband’s tax concessions.
I think presently, the Greens are going to be limited to contesting a few very ‘goldilocks’ seats where the confluence of demographics is just right – affluent enough to not vote Labor, young enough to not vote Liberal, that sort of thing. Future, more wide-ranging success probably depends on revising their policy and electoral strategy and being happy to go backwards a bit to move forward. Part of being a major political party sometimes means giving up two votes nationally in order to win one vote in a seat where you need it. But because of the aforementioned problems with the Greens brand and how the party is structured nationally, I’m not sure the Greens will ever be the appetite or ability to do that. A few seats and regular power-sharing with the ALP might be the best they can hope for.
Which itself leads to the question – does the existence of the Greens potentially crowd out the rise of a progressive party that actually has the potential to replace the ALP one day?
I find the commentary of left wing types like Osman Faruqi perplexing. Always seem to pot Labor and centre left policies, rather than work with Labor, as opposed to providing any worthwhile competition to the right.
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They are an inner city party on the left battling with another inner city party on the left (ALP) for votes.
What we need is a country left party to rise up (which the greens should be but most in the country hate them)
What we need is a country left party to rise up (which the greens should be but most in the country hate them)
The greens are supporting the Victorian labor party in its relentless pursuit of anyone who disagrees with it. What is the point of them? They are morally bankrupt. So much death and destruction and these people want to support more draconian rule which have yet to work. In NSW they continue to manage this, day in day out. The person directly responsible for this is enabled by the greens and all the rest of spineless turds in the labor caucus. At least with John Cain the back bench rose up the glass escalator to put Joan in charge.
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Clearly on the right track in the ACT. Could end up with 6/25.
Any locals know why?
Any locals know why?
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