The battle for top 4 2020/21

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jod23

TheBrownDog
Apr 2, 2000
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It;s hard to know if we are back or not. We have won three matches in a row against Wolves, RB Leipzig and Arsenal. So results are there, performance wise, we were back to our best against Arsenal.

If we are 90% back to our best I think we can definitely challenge for that 4th spot, we have a pretty favourable run of fixtures to end the season too.
 

Art Vandelay_

TheBrownDog
Oct 28, 2012
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Our manager can't even work out who is at training and who is still on international duty. Embarrassing that we are in this top 4 race. The golden boot and assist leader has carried us more than any side has been carried before
Storm in a teacup. If he answers that he’s benched him for the derby/Zagreb week then he gets blasted for throwing them under the bus. White lie, gets blasted. Frankly who gives a sh*t?
 

jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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Storm in a teacup. If he answers that he’s benched him for the derby/Zagreb week then he gets blasted for throwing them under the bus. White lie, gets blasted. Frankly who gives a sh*t?
There's trouble brewing. I don't particularly mind tbh whether it's the manager or a large portion of the playing group that this all implodes on.
 

Art Vandelay_

TheBrownDog
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There's trouble brewing. I don't particularly mind tbh whether it's the manager or a large portion of the playing group that this all implodes on.

Know damn well who I’d sack first. The perennial losers. Also we ended up with Rodon (who has been decent) because we couldn’t afford Dias. Put Dias in our back 4 and we absolutely defend better. Jose has always been a “get my first choice and we’ll win” sort of coach.
 

jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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Know damn well who I’d sack first. The perennial losers. Also we ended up with Rodon (who has been decent) because we couldn’t afford Dias. Put Dias in our back 4 and we absolutely defend better. Jose has always been a “get my first choice and we’ll win” sort of coach.
But we are the sort of club that is a get my first choice and we will win because of ENIC. I thought they might change their ways with him but they haven't. And as you've said gutting the place and buying who Mou wants in this market is impossible. Also do we really trust our scouting network with any money at all? Neto cost 8m less than Bergwijn. Davinson cost 40m when that was massive.
 

Art Vandelay_

TheBrownDog
Oct 28, 2012
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But we are the sort of club that is a get my first choice and we will win because of ENIC. I thought they might change their ways with him but they haven't. And as you've said gutting the place and buying who Mou wants in this market is impossible. Also do we really trust our scouting network with any money at all? Neto cost 8m less than Bergwijn. Davinson cost 40m when that was massive.
Now we’re treading back over old ground again, don’t make me quote balance sheet items..
 

jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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Now we’re treading back over old ground again, don’t make me quote balance sheet items..
Then dont complain that we aren't winning and it isn't working for Jose.

If we dont have the money to spend we shouldn't hire a manager who needs funds to win.
 

Art Vandelay_

TheBrownDog
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Then dont complain that we aren't winning and it isn't working for Jose.

If we dont have the money to spend we shouldn't hire a manager who needs funds to win.
Not complaining my man. Been saying it for a while that this is where we are, accepted it. Others haven’t
 

jd2010

#freeWelly #freeDele
Feb 1, 2010
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Not complaining my man. Been saying it for a while that this is where we are, accepted it. Others haven’t
I think I was one of the first to say we are a 6th-9th sort of club and we overachieved for years.

My issue is having the 2nd highest paid manager with that sort of base. A manager who complains about the squad after saying the squad was great. A manager lying and throwing people under the bus, regardless of if they're good enough or not. He obviously signed not thinking we are a 6th-9th club so it's not really his fault either. He was a good signing as manager if we were a club with short term ambitions, we don't. Now lets move him on and start the rebuild and play the youth and finish in the 6th-9th range and not have a manager complaining about it.
 

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RossFC

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May 23, 2012
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It;s hard to know if we are back or not. We have won three matches in a row against Wolves, RB Leipzig and Arsenal. So results are there, performance wise, we were back to our best against Arsenal.

If we are 90% back to our best I think we can definitely challenge for that 4th spot, we have a pretty favourable run of fixtures to end the season too.
I reckon the Arsenal win gave us some false hope. They are an absolutely dreadful side. Several teams found the blueprint on how to beat us yet Arteta's side couldn't even muster anything going forward. No threat at all.
 

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