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"Police examining leads in Beaumont children mystery, warn overstating significance distresses children’s family
Sean Fewster, Chief Court Reporter, The Advertiser
6 minutes ago
POLICE say they are examining leads over the disappearance of the Beaumont children but stress they do not want the significance of their inquiries “overstated”, given the ongoing distress it causes the missing children’s family.
On Thursday, a 71-year-old man faced the Adelaide Magistrates Court charged with bestiality — an allegation that was withdrawn by prosecutors.
The man, whom The Advertiser has chosen not to name, has been purportedly linked to the 1966 disappearance of Jane, Arnna and Grant Beaumont by a victim of child sex crimes.
Other claims made by that victim, on prior occasions, have been investigated by SA Police but were not supported by evidence.
On Thursday, an SA Police spokesman confirmed information had “recently” been received “in respect to several suspects”.
“From time to time, new information is provided to police in connection to the disappearance of the Beaumont children,” he said.
“On each occasion this information is assessed and prioritised for investigation.
“It is not until these claims are fully investigated that we will be able to determine if they are credible.”
But such claims could cause “false expectations and unnecessary distress to family members” if the significance of the information was “overstated”, he said.
“There have been many previous false hopes generated about potential suspects that have amounted to nothing when investigated,” he said.
In February, Major Crime detectives excavated the New Castalloy factory in North Plympton and unearthed the bones of horses or cows, not humans."
 

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In 2015 a man by the name of David Smith contacted police and gave a statement that he was at Glenelg Beach on 26 January 1966. He bought lunch at Wenzel’s bakery and then sat on a bench nearby with an elderly couple. Nearby was a young man wearing bathers with three children, two girls aged about 10 and 6 and a younger boy. David had a brief conversation with the man about National Service and then a discussion with the oldest girl who told him that the man had given them money to buy lunch from the bakery. The man and children then got into a car which David described as a sports styled car, new, shiny with a chrome luggage rack. The car then drove off towards Anzac Highway. David’s attention was drawn to the car because it was high end.
He did not come forward immediately because just after Australia Day he went to Puckapunyal for National Service. He didn’t have access to newspapers or radio so he didn’t know that children had gone missing. When he returned to South Australia years later, the media had confused the dates/days. For years, years later, the media assumed that 26 January 1966 was a public holiday and reported that the children disappeared from Colley Reserve during the Bay Sheffield. In fact, the 1966 Bay Sheffield was held on the public holiday on Friday 28 January.
Other than taking David's statement at a police station, then receiving a written statement, police didn’t do anything further.
Later that year, I published a story in The Advertiser identifying a man that Andrew McIntyre said was involved in the disappearance of the children. That man was Anthony Munro. David immediately contacted me and identified Anthony Munro as the man he saw at the beach that day with the children.
David has made a number of statements to police, who have dismissed his story without explanation. David has given me permission to share his story on this page.
This is information I believe should be considered and investigated with vigour and to the same degree afforded to the Phipps claims.
You will no longer find the link to this Advertiser article, it was removed from News Corp files, without explanation.
Courtesy of Brian Littley
Is this correct?
There is a new witness who was a boy during the abductions with information that police are now acting on that allegedly implicates Hughes and McIntyre.

A friend and contemporary of Hughes was has been charged with historical child abuse in Queensland and extradited to SA may have information about Hughes involvement with the Beaumont children's abduction and death. Allegedly not involved himself.

The above account posted on big footy from the journalist who originally reported it in the Advertiser (now not available online, although transcript still on bf) describes an independent witness (Vietnam vet), who identified Munro as leaving the beach that day with the children in a distinctive, sports styled car with a chrome luggage rack. Headed north (Advertiser report) and/or towards Anzac Highway.
 

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"Police examining leads in Beaumont children mystery, warn overstating significance distresses children’s family
Sean Fewster, Chief Court Reporter, The Advertiser
6 minutes ago
POLICE say they are examining leads over the disappearance of the Beaumont children but stress they do not want the significance of their inquiries “overstated”, given the ongoing distress it causes the missing children’s family.
On Thursday, a 71-year-old man faced the Adelaide Magistrates Court charged with bestiality — an allegation that was withdrawn by prosecutors.
The man, whom The Advertiser has chosen not to name, has been purportedly linked to the 1966 disappearance of Jane, Arnna and Grant Beaumont by a victim of child sex crimes.
Other claims made by that victim, on prior occasions, have been investigated by SA Police but were not supported by evidence.
On Thursday, an SA Police spokesman confirmed information had “recently” been received “in respect to several suspects”.
“From time to time, new information is provided to police in connection to the disappearance of the Beaumont children,” he said.
“On each occasion this information is assessed and prioritised for investigation.
“It is not until these claims are fully investigated that we will be able to determine if they are credible.”
But such claims could cause “false expectations and unnecessary distress to family members” if the significance of the information was “overstated”, he said.
“There have been many previous false hopes generated about potential suspects that have amounted to nothing when investigated,” he said.
In February, Major Crime detectives excavated the New Castalloy factory in North Plympton and unearthed the bones of horses or cows, not humans."
Who is the alleged that the Advertiser won't name do we know?
 

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BlueE seems to have mentioned a name a few posts above in connection with McIntyre.
I'm just trying to keep up with what's going on. A name is mentioned a couple of pages back of a contemporary of Munro who was charged with multiple historical child sex abuse. His name didn't seem to be suppressed in Queensland. He was extradited to SA on other charges. One charge of bestiality has been withdrawn.
There is a witness who was a little boy at the time of the children's disappearance and other witnesses confirming, who could be identifying his friend (TM) as being seen with the BC and McIntyre.
 
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Published on Mar 30, 2018

BREAKING NEWS: 71 John David Pike has been extradited from South Australia to Queensland to face 20 historic child sex offences. He is also said to have ties to Tony Munro, who had also been investigated in the Missing Beaumont Children case, and while he wasn't convicted of those crimes, he is currently serving time for similar crimes in Australia.

 

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Cambodia Expats Online
Published on Mar 30, 2018

BREAKING NEWS: 71 John David Pike has been extradited from South Australia to Queensland to face 20 historic child sex offences. He is also said to have ties to Tony Munro, who had also been investigated in the Missing Beaumont Children case, and while he wasn't convicted of those crimes, he is currently serving time for similar crimes in Australia.

Rereading the "Police examining leads in Beaumont children mystery, warn overstating significance distresses children’s family" article on 7th June which suppresses the name of a 71 year old man who faced the Adelaide Magistrates Court and purportedly linked to the 1966 disappearance of Jane, Arnna and Grant Beaumont by a victim of child sex crimes (little boy at the time). Don't know his name.

This is a different 71 year old man, to 71 year old John Pike who was extradited from SA to Queensland on 30th May to face at least 20 charges of historical child abuse in Queensland. John Pike is not alleged to be involved with the BC disappearance but is known to be a close friend of Tony Munro.

It is not known who the suppressed man is and what the status of the investigation is regarding him in connection the the BC.

On Thursday, an SA Police spokesman confirmed information had “recently” been received “in respect to several suspects”.
“From time to time, new information is provided to police in connection to the disappearance of the Beaumont children,” he said.
“On each occasion this information is assessed and prioritised for investigation.
“It is not until these claims are fully investigated that we will be able to determine if they are credible.”

http://solicitor-websites.co.uk/pol...ing-significance-distresses-childrens-family/

Artlcle from 7th June 2018 reprinted in a post above. Pay wall in Adelaide Advertiser and Press reader link broken.
 
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https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/06/24/12/44/cold-case-solved-because-of-dna-on-napkin

Video released by 9 news today. Police are going back to dig at another sport at Phipp's old factory, Castalloy. Play the video, not sure why it's attached to this report.

Is it every time a lead comes up pointing to McIntyre's property this comes up?
Still so much activity around this I'm getting confused with all the players but I'd thought Phipps had essentially been ruled out. This new dig is to settle concerns investigators were digging in the wrong place?
 

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POLICE were at the crime scene just hours after the Beaumont children were killed, claims a man who has provided a statement to SA Police’s Major Crime branch.

Detectives are now examining the man’s claims — the latest among hundreds made as the 52-year-old cold-case mystery continues to baffle authorities.

The man, who for legal reasons cannot be identified, first told police late last year that, as a child, he not only saw Jane, Arnna and Grant Beaumont playing with three men at Glenelg Beach on January 26, 1966, but he later walked in on two of those same men as they abused the children.

He has claimed the children were taken to his family home and were abused and killed in his bedroom and that he himself narrowly escaped also being killed that day.

But the boldest of his claims, that two members of the Women’s Police Branch came to his rescue and took him from the home to their Angas St base in the city that night, will be critical in validating or eliminating the man’s claims.
 

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POLICE were at the crime scene just hours after the Beaumont children were killed, claims a man who has provided a statement to SA Police’s Major Crime branch.

Detectives are now examining the man’s claims — the latest among hundreds made as the 52-year-old cold-case mystery continues to baffle authorities.

The man, who for legal reasons cannot be identified, first told police late last year that, as a child, he not only saw Jane, Arnna and Grant Beaumont playing with three men at Glenelg Beach on January 26, 1966, but he later walked in on two of those same men as they abused the children.

He has claimed the children were taken to his family home and were abused and killed in his bedroom and that he himself narrowly escaped also being killed that day.

But the boldest of his claims, that two members of the Women’s Police Branch came to his rescue and took him from the home to their Angas St base in the city that night, will be critical in validating or eliminating the man’s claims.
That last piece is amazing if true. Calling docks . Any other updates for us?
 

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I want to believe but I get the feeling its going to be another washout. Its a very difficult thing trying to sort the chaff out. The police must pull their hair out every time something like this surfaces
The cops have ignored many claims that have come from witnesses who were children at the time and reported years. However you would think they can validate his woman's police branch removing him from the house but where were the children then?

His clams would further be strengthened if independent witness Vietnam vet saw the same person get into a car with the three children and another independent (none knowing of the others) witness names two men who they say they saw with the deceased children.
 

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The cops have ignored many claims that have come from witnesses who were children at the time and reported years. However you would think they can validate his woman's police branch removing him from the house but where were the children then?

His clams would further be strengthened if independent witness Vietnam vet saw the same person get into a car with the three children and another independent (none knowing of the others) witness names two men who they say they saw with the deceased children.
According to the article that was later taken offline, the Vietnam Vet identified Munro as the person with the kids that day. Who has also been named by the guy who was the kid at the centre of the story being taken to the women’s police station.

I want to believe but I get the feeling its going to be another washout. Its a very difficult thing trying to sort the chaff out. The police must pull their hair out every time something like this surfaces
There are a lot of herrings to this (and any unsolved) case. However what makes this interesting is that there are now three different sets of witnesses providing 3 different chapters to the story. You have Andrew and Ruth McIntyre, the Vietnam Vet, and now this guy who claims to have been there at the time of the murder. Individually their stories on their own might be palmed off as fantasy, but when you piece them together (and in particular the same name of at least Munro keeps popping up), you get a timeline of an event that isn’t so fanciful.
 

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According to the article that was later taken offline, the Vietnam Vet identified Munro as the person with the kids that day. Who has also been named by the guy who was the kid at the centre of the story being taken to the women’s police station.

There are a lot of herrings to this (and any unsolved) case. However what makes this interesting is that there are now three different sets of witnesses providing 3 different chapters to the story. You have Andrew and Ruth McIntyre, the Vietnam Vet, and now this guy who claims to have been there at the time of the murder. Individually their stories on their own might be palmed off as fantasy, but when you piece them together (and in particular the same name of at least Munro keeps popping up), you get a timeline of an event that isn’t so fanciful.
Didnt it take the Vietnam Vet a year to contact police?

Is the guy taken to the police station by the Female Officers a McIntyre?
 

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Didnt it take the Vietnam Vet a year to contact police?

Is the guy taken to the police station by the Female Officers a McIntyre?
From what I read well over a year, as he was fighting in Vietnam until end of war. When he came back media were mistakenly saying children were taken on the Saturday 29th Jan and they thought from a different area (running race?) and this wasn't corrected for years. He didn't initially connect what he saw with them and it wasn't until he saw an original poster that he recognised the oldest girl he talked to and then ID'd Munro as the young man he also talked to.

No the boy that is the source of the current witness statements is not a McIntyre. As Visions says three different unconnected witnesses with the same one or two (not sure about the third) people.
 
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