Unsolved The Beaumont Children

[BlueE]

With until the suppression order on the mulligan inquiry is lifted in about another 20 years.

You'll see what went on and went on in every Western nation. And you'll see who protected these people.

The police job is not to stop these people it is to protect these people.

Mulligan suppression was for 80 years, so another 70 to go! Unprecedented, considering most, especially those that may have been involved in the Beaumont's are dead already. So little chance of waiting for that, unless some brave SA pollie changes that.

This thread mentions names already that may have been involved, including a former prominent SA Supreme Court Judge. Names are not suppressed in connection to the Beaumont's. Still have living witnesses who were children at the time, but the investigation has gone quiet again.

Ruth McIntyre claims there were about 4 cars, and maybe 8 people including two woman that turned up in her street when her father bought the children back there in the boot of his car. Maybe a co-incidence?

Anyhow I'm curious in what you think happened to the Beaumont's, this is not part of the Mulligan Inquiry.

 

[Thegibbsgamble]

There's a lot of conjecture about it. There is also disinformation designed to protect the family.

The gang had alot of fringe members who were unable to help themselves and did some risky things. Went outside of normal Operational procedure.

The actual gang known as the family did not need grab like in this case. Unless there was a specific order. They had access to all they needed from dept of child protection.
Then known as welfare


With the extent of the cover up it is without doubt the perps were involved with the family. It kept quiet because of what the perps knew. There was however an active kidnapping ring at the time with top level contacts.

Again most likely a rogue hit.

 

[Willow weeps]

An forensic expert pushing for the DNA testing of unidentified human remains in police storerooms said in the media that the BC's could be among them.

Susie Ratcliff (Joanne Ratcliff's sister) is also behind this.It is true, we need it. With so many missing people & so many bones in storage there could finally be closure for families of the missing people.

 

[Willow weeps]

Can you elaborate on what happened to them? Most perps almost certainly dead now.

Still one sitting in prison atm, very much alive & soon to be charged with more historic rapes in QLD through the Scouts group with his lover. He's already sitting in a prison cell in QLD awaiting trial over hundreds of historic rapecharges

 

[Belushi Brassiere]

Is Grant the most forgotten of the three in the public memory? Jane, and especially the younger Arnna, have an innocence and purity (and dresses and perfume and flowers and butterflies) thing associated with them, simply by virtue of being girls.

 

[Willow weeps]

Is Grant the most forgotten of the three in the public memory? Jane, and especially the younger Arnna, have an innocence and purity (and dresses and perfume and flowers and butterflies) thing associated with them, simply by virtue of being girls.

never, never is he forgotten

 

[Killer Power]

Is Grant the most forgotten of the three in the public memory? Jane, and especially the younger Arnna, have an innocence and purity (and dresses and perfume and flowers and butterflies) thing associated with them, simply by virtue of being girls.

In what way? They are rarely individualised but just referred to as the BC. Jane might be the exception as she is often referred to as being more mature than her age in that she played a motherly role to the other kids. Not sure what you are getting at?

 

[beta_condition]

With the dig last year was it ever reported if they tested the soil for human remains?

 

[Willow weeps]

With the dig last year was it ever reported if they tested the soil for human remains?

I'm not 100% sure but dig there was all about two authors trying to sell their books. If you haven't read "The Satin Man", don't waste your time or money. There is another property that needs to be dug but SAPOL won't do it. I don't understand why they won't because imo every avenue should be looked at & those kids deserve a dignified burial & their parents deserve answers before they pass. SAPOL should be ashamed of themselves as should these two so called journalists. They know very well about the other property & yet they got permission to dig Castaloy knowing they wouldn't find one thing

 

[Killer Power]

I'm not 100% sure but dig there was all about two authors trying to sell their books. If you haven't read "The Satin Man", don't waste your time or money. There is another property that needs to be dug but SAPOL won't do it. I don't understand why they won't because imo every avenue should be looked at & those kids deserve a dignified burial & their parents deserve answers before they pass. SAPOL should be ashamed of themselves as should these two so called journalists. They know very well about the other property & yet they got permission to dig Castaloy knowing they wouldn't find one thing

So much wrong with this. One moment you say every avenue should be looked at then the next you say SAPOL should be ashamed for going ahead with the dig. Which is it?

The dig only went ahead when reporting on the book brought forward 2 independent witnesses who made claims of digging a large hole for the suspect in the Castalloy grounds at around the time the BC went missing. GPR subsequently found a large area of disturbed earth at the indicated spot and the dig commenced. There were solid grounds for the dig, police were hopeful more than confident and have no reason to be ashamed. Channel 7 were driving the situation with the public so I'm not sure why you are pinning it all on the authors and SAPOL anyway.

Assume the other property you refer to is Stansbury? I would also like to see this area explored further.

 

[Belushi Brassiere]

@Killer Power, what do you think of Joanne Ratcliffe's sister saying that human remains that are in long term storage should be DNA tested in order to potentially solve cold and missing persons cases?

 

[Killer Power]

@Killer Power, what do you think of Joanne Ratcliffe's sister saying that human remains that are in long term storage should be DNA tested in order to potentially solve cold and missing persons cases?

I think it is a great idea and am a little surprised that the process hasn't already commenced. It has great potential to provide significant leads in cases or reunite those families still around with at least some of the remains of their loved ones. As far as the suggestion coming from Ratcliffe's sister and I don't think that this is borne out of any strong belief that any of her bones have been recovered but rather her advocating for families of missing persons in general.

 

[Willow weeps]

@Killer Power, what do you think of Joanne Ratcliffe's sister saying that human remains that are in long term storage should be DNA tested in order to potentially solve cold and missing persons cases?

I think it's something that should have been done years ago. So many unsolved cold cases could finally bring a loved one some sort of peace. Letting them bury their loved one finally in a dignified manner rather than letting them sit in boxes kept in storage. I'm 100% behind her.She's not doing it for her family, she's doing it for everyone's family

 

[Willow weeps]

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So much wrong with this. One moment you say every avenue should be looked at then the next you say SAPOL should be ashamed for going ahead with the dig. Which is it?

The dig only went ahead when reporting on the book brought forward 2 independent witnesses who made claims of digging a large hole for the suspect in the Castalloy grounds at around the time the BC went missing. GPR subsequently found a large area of disturbed earth at the indicated spot and the dig commenced. There were solid grounds for the dig, police were hopeful more than confident and have no reason to be ashamed. Channel 7 were driving the situation with the public so I'm not sure why you are pinning it all on the authors and SAPOL anyway.

Assume the other property you refer to is Stansbury? I would also like to see this area explored further.

The authors basically used that book to promote their own previous books on the case that were already published. Yes Stansbury but the two McIntyre kids who live there have said they can dig but only if SAPOL do it. SAPOL refuse to do it so the two kids look like they're doing the right thing while knowing that SAPOL won't dig there so no dig will ever happen & that is why they should be disgusted in their moves & motives. They have a new witness who has given his statements to police. He is credible, has never met Andrew orRuth McIntyre so there is no collusion & yet SAPOL just file away his statements & do nothing

 

[FR0GGY]

Listened to a couple of podcasts today on the subject, it seems as if there is still a site on the castalloy site that needs to be investigated, “the pit” a sand pit that’s located near two cottages still on the site apparently.
Haydn Phipps apparently said this is where they were buried.

 

[jedi mind tricks]

A person who's time line matches the killings to the state he lived went by the name James Ryan O'Neill formally known as Leigh Anthony Bridgart.

Bridgart fled to West Aus in 1971 after opal mining in South Aus during the 60s

He once boasted about killing the Beaumont children.

He is also a prime suspect in the abduction and disappearance of Jimny Patrick Taylor. Jimmy was a young indigenous boy who I'm related to on my fathers side.

His sisters today Lynette and Evelyn are still hoping for closure however due to underwhelming police efforts at the time of Jimmys disappearance the case hasn't been resolved.

Here is the link for anyone intetested

https://thewest-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thewest.com.au/news/wa/family-seek-justice-and-closure-for-little-jimmy-ng-ya-138891.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/family-seek-justice-and-closure-for-little-jimmy-ng-ya-138891

 

[GreyCrow]

A person who's time line matches the killings to the state he lived went by the name James Ryan O'Neill formally known as Leigh Anthony Bridgart.

Bridgart fled to West Aus in 1971 after opal mining in South Aus during the 60s

He once boasted about killing the Beaumont children.

He is also a prime suspect in the abduction and disappearance of Jimny Patrick Taylor. Jimmy was a young indigenous boy who I'm related to on my fathers side.

His sisters today Lynette and Evelyn are still hoping for closure however due to underwhelming police efforts at the time of Jimmys disappearance the case hasn't been resolved.

Here is the link for anyone intetested

https://thewest-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/thewest.com.au/news/wa/family-seek-justice-and-closure-for-little-jimmy-ng-ya-138891.amp?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/family-seek-justice-and-closure-for-little-jimmy-ng-ya-138891

I think I saw the doco. Might have to rewatch it

Do you have any information on the vehicle he drove at the time (1966) ?

Coober Pedy does have a reputation as a place that bodies can disappear forever

 

[jedi mind tricks]

I think I saw the doco. Might have to rewatch it

Do you have any information on the vehicle he drove at the time (1966) ?

Coober Pedy does have a reputation as a place that bodies can disappear forever

Sorry I'm not sure and will have to look back over the ABC doco and other info. I'm not suggesting that he killed the BC but he's an incredibly sick individual.

Here is his wiki link. He is seving life in prison for a murder commited in 1975. The Fisherman is the doco relavant to my original post

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ryan_O'Neill

'It was also alleged he was in Adelaide about the time the Beaumont childrendisappeared and that he had told people he was responsible for their disappearance'

 

[sprockets]

Sorry I'm not sure and will have to look back over the ABC doco and other info. I'm not suggesting that he killed the BC but he's an incredibly sick individual.

Here is his wiki link. He is seving life in prison for a murder commited in 1975. The Fisherman is the doco relavant to my original post

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ryan_O'Neill

'It was also alleged he was in Adelaide about the time the Beaumont childrendisappeared and that he had told people he was responsible for their disappearance'

 

[Jatz]

Had read about this case previously but listened to the Casefile podcast on this this morning.

I don’t believe we’ll ever get to the bottom of this now. The investigation was too poorly run originally.

As for suspects, I can’t go past the Satin Man. He just seems to fit so many criteria’s. This site did a fairly good job of it:

https://thebeaumontchildren.com.au/the-satin-man-overwhelming-coincidences/

It was the one pound note that really sways me that way. It seems a very unique thing and he’s the only one that was previously known to give pound notes out. It also feels like he was wealthy/connected enough to get away with it.

Sad to hear the parents are still alive but won’t ever find out in all likelihood.

 

[Killer Power]

Had read about this case previously but listened to the Casefile podcast on this this morning.

I don’t believe we’ll ever get to the bottom of this now. The investigation was too poorly run originally.

As for suspects, I can’t go past the Satin Man. He just seems to fit so many criteria’s. This site did a fairly good job of it:

https://thebeaumontchildren.com.au/the-satin-man-overwhelming-coincidences/

It was the one pound note that really sways me that way. It seems a very unique thing and he’s the only one that was previously known to give pound notes out. It also feels like he was wealthy/connected enough to get away with it.

Sad to hear the parents are still alive but won’t ever find out in all likelihood.

May pay to read through this thread also. There would seem to be a prime suspect in police sights now and it isn't the Satin Man. Also when viewing the early days of the investigation you need to take into account how the police department operated in the 60's, the lack of specialised resources available to them then compared to now and the fact that this was really the first crime of its type in the state. The Glenelg police were well out of their depth but really through no fault of their own. A lot changed after the BC.

 

[Jatz]

May pay to read through this thread also. There would seem to be a prime suspect in police sight now and it isn't the Satin Man. Also when viewing the early days of the investigation you need to take into account the how the police department operated in the 60's, the lack of specialised resources available to them then compared to now and the fact that this was really the first crime of its type in the state. The Glenelg police were well out of their depth but really through no fault of their own. A lot changed after the BC.

Absolutely, completely appreciate the Glenelg dept were out of their depth. Was more just a note as to why it’s virtually impossible that we’ll see a resolution now.

Which page should I start around? I saw 87 pages and I really just don’t have the time to go through each one of those haha

 

[Killer Power]

Absolutely, completely appreciate the Glenelg dept were out of their depth. Was more just a note as to why it’s virtually impossible that we’ll see a resolution now.

Which page should I start around? I saw 87 pages and I really just don’t have the time to go through each one of those haha

Ok, just bit at the phrase "too poorly run originally".

Quite recent. Pg 84 onwards will catch you up.

 

[Willow weeps]

I want to believe but I get the feeling its going to be another washout. Its a very difficult thing trying to sort the chaff out. The police must pull their hair out every time something like this surfaces

Then victim now has proof of being at the Women's branch that night like he stated previously. Police have it on record & the victim has his own hard copy

 

[Belushi Brassiere]

I still think - if the BC were individualised more - that we'd see a lot of focus on Jane and Arnna and less on Grant. Simply because of their sex.