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I assume you are meaning Conspiracy theory.That's quite a conspiracy.
I've been told Max was bisexual. more so closeted gay though. There are medical reports of Margaret (Andrew, Claire & Ruth's mum) telling a shrink she thought Max was gay.I assume you are meaning Conspiracy theory.
However if you look at what Willow has written, except for one point all can be corroborated or are facts. The only point I couldn't find any evidence for was that McIntrye sexually assaulted his male children. Little girls, including his daughters who both have medical evidence of a specific cut he made on them to facilitate sexual abuse when they were very young, seemed to be his preference.
That may well have happened. As for the Beaumonts we'll probably never know. If I was being abused by a mate of my father's with my father's consent I'd be wanting to get back at him for the rest of my life and may even make up stories about him. If I owned that property I'd be digging it up with or without the cooperation of the police, unless I believed my siblings were just plain liars.it's the very sad & awful fact. I don't see historic child sexual abuse victims making s**t up for it & even Max McIntyre himself said on camera that "I walked in on Tony (Munro) & Andrew in bed (aged 14 at the time I think). I didn't make a fuss, he was my son, he was a beautiful boy & he was in love with a scout master" Any father that isn't a paedophile would NEVER & I mean NEVER walk away & let his "friend" continue to rape his very own son. If it were your underage son with your best friend, how would you react? I sure as hell hope you wouldn't think it was ok to let your son get raped & just walk away
I assume you are meaning Conspiracy theory.
However if you look at what Willow has written, except for one point all can be corroborated or are facts. The only point I couldn't find any evidence for was that McIntrye sexually assaulted his male children. Little girls, including his daughters who both have medical evidence of a specific cut he made on them to facilitate sexual abuse when they were very young, seemed to be his preference.
Andrew McIntyre didn't have to make up stories about his father because his father's mate abused him. The mate of Andrew's father was Tony Munro and he was eventually prosecuted for the sexual abuse of Andrew McIntyre and another young boy. Even though the judge described the abuse as depraved Munro will only serve 5 years. When Andrew first started accusing Munro of sexual abuse publicly as cops were reluctant to take his statements, Munro took off to Thailand with one million dollars or more that as a door to door salesman he had accumulated. He bought a Siem Reap City gay bar, and was under investigation in Cambodia for similar crimes.That may well have happened. As for the Beaumonts we'll probably never know. If I was being abused by a mate of my father's with my father's consent I'd be wanting to get back at him for the rest of my life and may even make up stories about him. If I owned that property I'd be digging it up with or without the cooperation of the police, unless I believed my siblings were just plain liars.
One thing goes without saying though, there were and are far more pedophiles in SA (and everywhere else) than just McIntyre and Munro. Not everything has to be pinned on those two, same as not every indecent assault in WA needs to be pinned on BRE. There are hundreds or even thousands of them out there.
Has this been corroborated:
"Max was very well taken care of by police who needed a fix it man" and "When Max has connections to the right people say, lawyers, detectives, judges, you'd be scared too"
By who? Anyone of note? Link?
To what point though?I think Andrew's claim that his father went and retried three children from orphanages and dressed them up as the Beaumont to parade them around Adelaide before throwing them off a cliff could be verified.
the sick things that some depraved & horrible people will do...To what point though?
It was the biggest manhunt this state has seen. It wasnt a delayed start. Having replicas paraded around makes no sense.
I've never been to Adelaide and its taken me ages to try to follow reports and pin down exactly where they went missing from. Most said they went missing from Collier Reserve, and later reports form the running races (although they were held on the Saturday) but actually it was Glenelg reserve (but near Collier Rd). People may have seen children matching the Beaumont descriptions at the running races at Collier Reserve confusing the investigation and corresponding news reports about it.To what point though?
It was the biggest manhunt this state has seen. It wasnt a delayed start. Having replicas paraded around makes no sense.
Unfortunately there are a lot of unmarked graves in Adelaide in different cemeteries. Mostwere of the kids in state care & orphanages. Nobody cared enough so it could be hard to find any info on missing/dead kids from those places.I've never been to Adelaide and its taken me ages to try to follow reports and pin down exactly where they went missing from. Most said they went missing from Collier Reserve, and later reports form the running races (although they were held on the Saturday) but actually it was Glenelg reserve (but near Collier Rd). People may have seen children matching the Beaumont descriptions at the running races at Collier Reserve confusing the investigation and corresponding news reports about it.
There were many that thought the Beaumont children were alive.
It wasn't just Andrew's story but Ruth McIntrye said her father took her to the cops and made her report the deaths of these three children from orphanages, saying she was responsible for them. Is there a copy of this report? Probably destroyed but you don't forget or lie about things like that in my opinion.
It could be fairly easily checked as the Mulligan report should have documented each of the deaths of children in State custody. This would either support or discredit what Andrew and Ruth were saying. However I'm not sure if basic information like the dates, ages, genders and which Institution are available to the public. Does anyone know?
Ok are you now suggesting the children were taken from the home BEFORE the Beaumont children were taken? That they were used as a possible distraction?I've never been to Adelaide and its taken me ages to try to follow reports and pin down exactly where they went missing from. Most said they went missing from Collier Reserve, and later reports form the running races (although they were held on the Saturday) but actually it was Glenelg reserve (but near Collier Rd). People may have seen children matching the Beaumont descriptions at the running races at Collier Reserve confusing the investigation and corresponding news reports about it.
There were many that thought the Beaumont children were alive.
It wasn't just Andrew's story but Ruth McIntrye said her father took her to the cops and made her report the deaths of these three children from orphanages, saying she was responsible for them. Is there a copy of this report? Probably destroyed but you don't forget or lie about things like that in my opinion.
It could be fairly easily checked as the Mulligan report should have documented each of the deaths of children in State custody. This would either support or discredit what Andrew and Ruth were saying. However I'm not sure if basic information like the dates, ages, genders and which Institution are available to the public. Does anyone know?
No I am NOT saying that!! Where have I said the children the McIntyre children said were taken from an orphanage were taken before the Beamont children disappeared?Ok are you now suggesting the children were taken from the home BEFORE the Beaumont children were taken? That they were used as a possible distraction?
Doesnt pass the smell test
No I am NOT saying that!! Where have I said the children the McIntyre children said were taken from an orphanage were taken before the Beamont children disappeared?
The point I was trying (badly it seems) to make was that as a person who knew jack s**t about the Beamonts and never been to Adelaide that following as much as possible the original police and news paper reports, it was very confusing as to where the children went missing from (where they were last seen by witnesses) and for a while whether they went missing from the Collier reserve races that year.
Thats how I read thisPeople may have seen children matching the Beaumont descriptions at the running races at Collier Reserve confusing the investigation and corresponding news reports about it.
That was three days later in Saturday 29th Jan. Also strange I thought how the postman kept changing his mind about when he saw the children. With all the publicity you'd think an important sighting like his would have been burnt into his brain.Thats how I read this
So there's no independent corroboration of what WW posted and the only 'evidence' we have that MM and Munro committed the kidnapping and murders is MM's disaffected children's' accounts.Andrew McIntyre didn't have to make up stories about his father because his father's mate abused him. The mate of Andrew's father was Tony Munro and he was eventually prosecuted for the sexual abuse of Andrew McIntyre and another young boy. Even though the judge described the abuse as depraved Munro will only serve 5 years. When Andrew first started accusing Munro of sexual abuse publicly as cops were reluctant to take his statements, Munro took off to Thailand with one million dollars or more that as a door to door salesman he had accumulated. He bought a Siem Reap City gay bar, and was under investigation in Cambodia for similar crimes.
Andrew McIntyre has always been found to have told the truth. Andrew doesn't own the Stanbury property and the brother that does is refusing to let the other siblings dig the sink hole on the property, which he legally can do unless police intervene. The sister from Max McIntyre's 2nd marriage and full sister of the brother that Max left all his property and money to has a very honest and believable testimony against Max which is recorded on a thread here.
https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/siem-reap-bar-owner-linked-to-50-year-old-abduction-case-115929/
Three of Max McIntyre's surviving children have all made statements of many crimes Max McIntyre committed that were either witnessed by them or they had evidence of or that they've been told about by deceased siblings. Most of this that I've seen has been to the International Committee Investigating sexual abuse. I guess you're someone who wouldn't believe children who said they were abused whether it was by a Priest person in authority or family member.
So for the claims that Max was taken care of by police who needed a fix it man, or has connections to the right people, his three children are the main ones we know of that have made these claims. However if the Mullighan Inquiry perpetrator names were released almost certainly you will find your lawyers, detectives, judges named in sexual assaults that Andrew witnessed and connected Max to.
I've had a look at the parts of the Mullighan Inquiry that were made public as I think Andrew's claim that his father went and retried three children from orphanages and dressed them up as the Beaumont to parade them around Adelaide before throwing them off a cliff could be verified. Looking at the deaths of similar aged children not long after the Beaumont disappeared, with girls from Goodwood Orphanage (St Vincent de Paul orphanage at Goodwood) and a boy from another Orphanage should confirm refute his claim. However the ages, genders and dates of the more than 600 deaths that occurred in State run organisations weren't pubically available that I could see.
You are making a huge exaggeration to say every sexual assault in SA should be pinned on McIntyre and Munro. However in my opinion McIntrye is most probably the linch pin with information compromising many others in many unsolved sexual assaults in SA.
Mulligan cared enough but cuold he get all the information and might be just me but where is all the information on deaths that he should have recorded?Unfortunately there are a lot of unmarked graves in Adelaide in different cemeteries. Mostwere of the kids in state care & orphanages. Nobody cared enough so it could be hard to find any info on missing/dead kids from those places.
Not true. The deaths of children in State Institutions exists but is suppressed as far as I've been able to find.So there's no independent corroboration of what WW posted and the only 'evidence' we have that MM and Munro committed the kidnapping and murders is MM's disaffected children's' accounts.
No-one wants this to be solved more than me but I think this topic or at least some of the posts need to be sent to the conspiracy board.
And it's statements like that, that make childrape victims, especially males never speak up for the shame & ridicule they receive from people. There is evidence that the Women's police were in fact called to the house by one one the perps. The child was taken to the police station & then to his mother. The victim has his copy of the incident as do SAPOL.So there's no independent corroboration of what WW posted and the only 'evidence' we have that MM and Munro committed the kidnapping and murders is MM's disaffected children's' accounts.
No-one wants this to be solved more than me but I think this topic or at least some of the posts need to be sent to the conspiracy board.
The NEW witness is not related to either MM or TM.He was however a boy scout & TM was his scout leaderSo there's no independent corroboration of what WW posted and the only 'evidence' we have that MM and Munro committed the kidnapping and murders is MM's disaffected children's' accounts.
No-one wants this to be solved more than me but I think this topic or at least some of the posts need to be sent to the conspiracy board.
And it's statements like that, that make childrape victims, especially males never speak up for the shame & ridicule they receive from people. There is evidence that the Women's police were in fact called to the house by one one the perps. The child was taken to the police station & then to his mother. The victim has his copy of the incident as do SAPOL.
People who make comments like you have make adult kids too scared to come foward. What if it were your son who had been violently raped often, what would you say to someone making your exact same comment to you word for word. Would you tell your son to shut up because nobody will believe him & that surely it's a conspiracy that he's only now telling you he was raped?
If it were your son, what would you be saying to those claiming he was only saying it because of a conspiracy?
These are very inflammatory comments and they misconstrue what the poster is suggestingand then people wonder why adult men of all ages commit suicide only to after find out that that adult male had been raped as a kid but was too ashamed to ever tell anyone or not be believed....
We're not talking about the deaths of children in State care, we're talking about the Beaumont children. As for this 'new witness' I'll believe it when I see it. What exactly does he corroborate?Not true. The deaths of children in State Institutions exists but is suppressed as far as I've been able to find.
I'm very surprised you haven't bothered to read any original sources on this thread. Including the arrest of the man identified by the new witness who collaborates the McIntyre children's evidence.
Greycrow has summed it up. All we have is an anonymous internet poster (you) telling us about some other anonymous person who SAYS he KNOWS what happened to the Beaumont kids. I'll believe it when it's verified in the appropriate forum by appropriate people.and then people wonder why adult men of all ages commit suicide only to after find out that that adult male had been raped as a kid but was too ashamed to ever tell anyone or not be believed....
Yes we are when you've claimed. "So there's no independent corroboration of what WW posted and the only 'evidence' we have that MM and Munro committed the kidnapping and murders is MM's disaffected children's' accounts."We're not talking about the deaths of children in State care, we're talking about the Beaumont children. As for this 'new witness' I'll believe it when I see it. What exactly does he corroborate?