The Big Footy Liverpool Army Part 2

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kane249

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We're really lacking a cutting edge at the moment to our play. Torres is showing flashes of his brilliance but his finishing is still very rusty and oh how we would have loved either of his 2 posters in the last 2 games to have gone in. To be fair to Rafa, Gerrard looked off his game today, Gerrards passing was off all game but you would still want him on with the game on the line when your chasing a winner.
 

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I'm finding I have nothing to say after our games anymore. It's the same thing, happening over and over again. Nothing new to report, just the same old bullshit
Remind you of anyone else of the last few years?

Seriously though, WTF? A mate of mine just sent me a text giving me shit and it said the following:

"If the Man U of yesterday morning played today's Liverpool the result would've been worse than 5-0".

I disagreed. We'd draw 0-0 or 1-1 with Man U, the difference is that they'd have beaten Wigan 5-0. And that's why I just don't rate Rafa as a league coach - can't grind out results week-in, week-out. Not for a whole season, anyway. Can, of course, do it for long enough to get our hopes up...
 

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We're really lacking a cutting edge at the moment to our play. Torres is showing flashes of his brilliance but his finishing is still very rusty and oh how we would have loved either of his 2 posters in the last 2 games to have gone in. To be fair to Rafa, Gerrard looked off his game today, Gerrards passing was off all game but you would still want him on with the game on the line when your chasing a winner.
We need blokes who take players on. With our only avenue to goal passing the ball around, waiting for the perfect pass, we create so many less chances than teams like United and Chelsea. I think we need an attacking right side more than anything. A winger and a fullback who will both take players on. As soon as that happens, it creates space. Everytime Kuyt or Arbeloa get the ball, everyone knows they aren't going to try and dribble past, and will just pass the ball around.

I love Arbeloa, he's one of my favourite players, but he just doesn't offer enough attackingly. Babel, Bennayoun, Torres, and Gerrard are the only players in our team who take players on. Riera is a good dribbler, but he doesn't attack the fullbacks like Babel. Quite simply, I just don't like our tactics. Finding the perfect pass is just too difficult. Sign blokes who will try and create something one-on-one, if they lose the ball, it's a risk you're willing to take, as when they do succeed, it will open up so many more attacking options for us
 

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These late goals are balancing out the ones we stole in the early part of the season.

We will beat Chelsea on Sunday though, I have a feeling about it.
Sadly, I reckon this is part of the problem - Liverpool (and I don't just mean the fans, I have a feeling the players and management feel this way too) see those late goals as stealing a match. I know I always do, and always feel a little lucky/guilty claiming an undeserved win.

Contrast that with Man U, who have turned it into an art form and almost see it as a right to earn a point or break a deadlock in injury time. It really is rather incredible how often they do it. If i didn't hate them so much i'd respect them for it...
 
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Hmm
Chelsea game is it basically.
See whether our squad is man or mouse. Its where we can stand up and say no, the first few months werent an apparition, we are worthy of challenging manure and the other scum for the title
Or we can lay down and say no we dont have the squad the board is in dissaray blah blah blah and give again, season over in feb.

-----------Reina-------------
Carragher Agger Skrtal Arbeloa
------Alonso Mascherano------
Kuyt:)()--Gerrard------Riera---
---------Torres---------------


I dunno who else you could put wide right, only reason Kuyt gets a gig
would be nice
 

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Lucas, Lucas, Lucas :rolleyes:

It's probably unfair to blame him for his one moment of idiocy. It shouldn't have come down to that. We were up against a Wigan side with a totally undermanned midfield and what did we do? We dominated posession in the 1st half without creating many chances and in the 2nd half started giving the ball away and bringing them into the game.

It's no secret how important Torres and Gerrard are to us and they were both poor. Torres started well and was unlucky with the poster but then started to become very sloppy while Gerrard was below par throughout.

Well played Benayoun. I was hoping he'd come in the side for Dirk and he didn't let us down. I hope he stays in the team for Chelsea.

I've generally been keeping an optimistic tone about our chances and with over one-third of the season left it's still do-able, but then again 5th spot is still a possibility. Chelsea, Aston Villa and Arsenal at Anfield, ManUre at OT. It's still pretty much in our own hands, but I think it has to start with 3 points v Chelsea on Sunday.
 

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Its a good thing that the internet has been down at work this morning as it has given me time to calm down after this mornings game. I was pretty much ready to throw the tv out the window.

Rafa has pretty much gift wrapped the title for ManUre. The guy never learns. Its sheer madness taking off Torres with over 20 minutes left when you are only leading by 1 goal. To make things worse he does not even replace him with a striker!!!!!!!! Would love to know what the flipping formation was meant to be.

Then when Wigan score (WAKE UP RAFA!!!! They were making attacking substitutions while Rafa was probably thinking three games ahead) he presses the panic button and brings on Keane. Like wtf do you expect keane to do in 5 minutes? That move should have been made 20 minutes ago when Torres came off. Not only that he took Gerrard off who is usually our main avenue to goals. MADNESS.

Rafa has cost us around 12 points this year and its growing every week - through either his stupid team selections and/or substitutions.

Hull City (Anfield) 2 points

Wigan (Away) 2 Points

Stoke City (Anfield) 2 points

Everton (Anfield) 2 points

Stoke City (Away) 2 points

West Ham (Anfield) 2 points

Rafa has two days left in the transfer window - if he plans to use Keane as some sort of last resort then SELL HIM!!!!!!!

Well done to Yossi who had a ripper game but was substituted. If they cannot play out 90 minutes then sack the fitness people as thats a joke. He should have played the entire game.

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The only reason I can come up with for his subs is that the Chelsea game is only 3 days away. But even that is strange for subbing Gerrard as it would've only been an additional of 10mins play.
 

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The only reason I can come up with for his subs is that the Chelsea game is only 3 days away. But even that is strange for subbing Gerrard as it would've only been an additional of 10mins play.
I am so bemused at that substitution.

Steve Bruce forced our hand, we couldn't sub off a defender because Wigan had 3 forwards on the pitch and were attacking, but why on earth Gerrard came off makes no sense...

Oh well, Rafa cost us again.

Benayoun was good, he looked a little bit sore after that knock he took (immediately) before he came off, that could have been a big part.
 

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The frustrating thing (well, one of them) for me is that the talk when Keane first came was that him and Torres would be paired up front, but come the start of the season Torres was alone up there and Keane was in behind him.

OK, so it worked for a while, but when Torres got injured, Keane was either left on his own (never going to work) or left on the pine.

Surely now Torres is back it wouldn't hurt to go back to how things were at the start of the season - that kind of 4-2-3-1 thing but with Keane - or, heaven forbid, actually play the two of them up front as per the original plan and let Keane do the only thing he was ever good at - buzz around the goals and kick the bloody thing in the back of the net.

It's no good expecting a guy who was never one to sit on and give off the ball to become that sort of player overnight. And let's face it, the current setup isn't working so why not give him a go in his natural position? Never know, we may even get something for our 20mill or whatever it was...

Chelsea lineup:

Reina
Carragher M Skrtel F Aurélio Arbeloa
J Mascherano, Y Benayoun, Gerrard, Alonso
Keane, Torres

Room for Riera in there possibly, then a bench of Babel, Kuyt (I know, I know), Agger, Ngog maybe...
 

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Not all is lost yet. I'd like to see Babel start the game vs Chelsea. His pace can generate lot of problems for blue bastards and Ashley Cole will have his hands full. He is however "hot & cold", but Rafa can work it out from the start [if Babel starts poorly, chances are that he'll remain like that for the rest of the game]. He can always bring Kuyt or Keane in.
 

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Not all is lost yet. I'd like to see Babel start the game vs Chelsea. His pace can generate lot of problems for blue bastards and Ashley Cole will have his hands full. He is however "hot & cold", but Rafa can work it out from the start [if Babel starts poorly, chances are that he'll remain like that for the rest of the game]. He can always bring Kuyt or Keane in.
Basically from here on out we need to start playing like Manchester are playing, and Manchester need to start playing like we're playing

I'm not holding my breath
 

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I wouldn't have thought so.

I've been one of Rafa's biggest fans in the past, but my patience is wearing thin.

He's never going to win us a league, he's too scared to lose matches, when we're in winning positions, his team is drilled to pass the ball around and look for that 'perfect pass', get a ****ing ball in the box.

Kuyt on the right, every time he touches the ball... he goes backwards or square. **** me, attack someone, get passed someone, get a ball into the box, or at least pass square of backwards to someone on the edge of the box who can have a shot or something.

Come on Rafa, you have to see that you're stifling the club and our club will never get anywhere in the league while you're in charge.
 

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Well it would be tough for a team like ours to win the title, given that we haven't played great football from the start of the season. Lucky late winners and draws against middle of the road teams is not good enough. We beat ManU and Chelsea which is a step in the right direction but we didn't dominate those games. It is virtually impossible to win it now. I haven't seen good 'form' all season so its highly unlikely it will change now. Hopefully the players can get their heads right (which is 90% of the problem ATM) and give it a good shot next season.
 

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Haha.

Funny as **** idea in motion for the Blueshite replay.

Seeing as they're ****ing off to Kirkby (for those that don't know...people from Kirkby are known as "sock robbers") our lot are going to lob thousands of pairs of socks all over the place.

**** it'll be funny!

:D

Can you imagine the clueless pundits announcing that kickoff is going to be delayed by 20 minutes while 10 thousand socks are cleared off the pitch. They'll have no idea! :D
 
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