The booing of Gary Ablett jnr

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Also he is not a stat peddler or a diver/flipper at all, most of this post is just either pure ignorant drivel or just a blatant troll.
You mean to tell me he's NEVER EVER hand-passed the ball over and over again in quick succession to pad his stats ? ;)

You obviously were not watching one of the games against Hawthorn from last year where he clearly flopped and was awarded two of the softest free kicks you'll ever see ;).
 

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"Why can't people respect Ablett's views???"

Older posters, was it this tedious in 1980 or whenever the tide turned on overt racism?
As a geriatric poster, I recall the time Bert Newton said of Mohhamed Ali " I like the boy". There was also the occassion when Frank Blue Eyes called Australian journalists hookers and pimps.

Strikes guffaws recriminations followed.

And so still we are here today.

I think that if Gary A or his dad ever had the chance to meet the dandy Quentin Crisp, then attitudes would shift quite quickly.
 

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And if you asked the Hawk diehard supporters why they were booing Ablett, half wouldn’t have had a genuine clue why
If you asked the diehard Geelong fans why they hated Hawthorn, probably half wouldn't have a clue why.

You've been sniping at Hawthorn on Big Footy for more than 10 years

Why?
 

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1) He's a flopper and dives for free kicks/umpires pet/protected species
2) Nothing but a cheap 1-2 chip scab stat peddler
3) His selfish "all about me" attitude
4) Being the worst captain of an AFL club in history...... Joel Selwood is a close second to that by the way ;)
Getting in teammates faces and telling them to block for him, not leading by example.
5) Creating the worst culture at a football club. He's supposed to be a captain and set the standards (both on the ground and off)
6) Signing a deal with the Gold Coast, then conveniently when the richest part of the deal had been completed he had no interested in finishing the rest off
7) Sprouting his religion
8) Showing his true homophobic colours

If anything the events of the past week should see him get booed louder :)
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Is Ablett getting booed related to his social media? No.

Is Ablett a sh*t bloke for liking a hateful and disrespectful post? Yes.

In my view, bible bashers tend to be the first to take seemingly counterintuitive and contradictory positions on things. Trying to rationalise why he would do something so dumb isn't going to get you anywhere. But still in relation to the OP, seems like it needs to be 2 different discussions for mine.
 

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1) He's a flopper and dives for free kicks/umpires pet/protected species
2) Nothing but a cheap 1-2 chip scab stat peddler
3) His selfish "all about me" attitude
4) Being the worst captain of an AFL club in history...... Joel Selwood is a close second to that by the way ;)
Getting in teammates faces and telling them to block for him, not leading by example.
5) Creating the worst culture at a football club. He's supposed to be a captain and set the standards (both on the ground and off)
6) Signing a deal with the Gold Coast, then conveniently when the richest part of the deal had been completed he had no interested in finishing the rest off
7) Sprouting his religion
8) Showing his true homophobic colours

If anything the events of the past week should see him get booed louder :)
was his last GCS deal actually frontloaded?

If that is the case, that is an absolute disgrace and may go a long way to explain why he extended in the first place. Makes it seem premediated.
 

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Preface; I'm not religious and don't particularly like the idea of any organised religion nor do I have any issue with gay people.

Are people boo'ing GAJ because he liked Israel Folau's post? Gaz is a Christian, Christians believe homosexuality is a sin and they believe a sin will land you in the firey pits of hell. I don't agree with any of this obviously but people like Gaz do because it is their religious right to do so. Many other large religions share similar beliefs, including Islam.

People are effectively shitting on someone for being religious. Imagine if they did this to Bachar Houli?
And that's pretty much my view. He is entitled to his view as much as I am in disliking bible bashers.

Just a couple of points related:

1/ Folou's issue is not his religious beliefs. It is a contractual dispute. He was told for the privilege of receiving upwards of $1m pa that he would have to pull his head in. He accepted that condition 12 months back and then broke it.

2/ I personally don't get booing at a game. Supporting your team is one thing but I just don't get the mindset in booing.
 

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Everyone wants to talk up football rivalries (eg. Geel vs Haw) and revel in the atmosphere of MCG blockbusters, but diehard fans are criticised when they show their passion & boo opposition villains. :huh:

Isn't this part of what makes our game great? Imagine how sterile it would be if spectators weren't emotionally invested and they never booed opposition players or umpires.

The clowns in the footy media always act like a few thousand booing spectators are losing their minds, frothing with rage and screaming obscenities. I think they're out of touch. Have they forgotten what's it like to pay to get in and be a real football fan? They should get out of their air-conditioned suites on level 2 and watch the game from behind the goals.

Booing is nothing more than a good-natured verbal middle finger from the fans.

Rank and file footy fans buy memberships & pay their money at the gate. They are the lifeblood of the AFL. Their devotion to the game and their own team is what enables AFL footballers to live comfortable lives. Even more so, the lucky footballers who make a lucrative career for themselves in the football media - you would think these ex-players would be more understanding of their own audience and not shit in their own nest.

Here's a thought: Why don't people STFU about spectators booing, stop building it up into something bigger than it is and just accept it as part & parcel of the AFL Theatre?
I think we have more issues on social media etc than worrying about booing at the footy.


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The booing had nothing to do with GAJ like Izzy's Instagram post.
It was just classless and juvenile behaviour by Hawks fans, nothing more, nothing less.
The boo-birds weren't rooting for the Geelong Cats. They were season ticket holders of the Hawthorn Hawks. The same folks were crying in the bleachers when Tomahawk hit his walk off home run in 2012 and high-fiving a few months later when Burgoyne helped snap the 11 game win streak in the playoffs .

Your storied franchise hasn't won a championship in decades. You've been in the basement for so long that you've forgotten what it's like to get liqoured up at the tailgate party and root for a dominating organisation.
 

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I know plenty of Christians who don't share Folau's belief. Besides - and I know the same point has been made here multiple times - holding something as a religiously motivated belief doesn't give you an all-clear to say whatever you like about it in public without repercussion.
No it doesn’t. But it does give you the right to have what you say interpreted properly rather than with the exact type of over the top fervour that lands a lot of christians in the sights of the masses.


I believe I have a reasonable perspective on this as someone who was raised in a Christian family and who still holds most of those beliefs but also struggles daily with a lot of the things Folau’s post mentioned. I’m not gay but I’ve fornicated, I could be classified as a drunk, I watch porn etc - these heaps of reasons that, as it stands, will ensure I go to hell if my beliefs are accurate.

Now someone telling me that that’s exactly where I will end up IF I DONT REPENT doesn’t amount to hate speech. If anything Folau’s post was a poorly worded way of saying that he cares about the groups mentioned enough to want to save them.

Criticise that belief all you want, most people these days do. But it’s not a hate message any more than saying drug addicts have a problem and need to sort it out or they will end up ****** up
 

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I’m not gay but I’ve fornicated, I could be classified as a drunk, I watch porn etc - these heaps of reasons that, as it stands, will ensure I go to hell if my beliefs are accurate.
I do get your point about condemnation vs salvation, but a significant difference is that you choose to have sex, have a drink, etc. You don't choose to be gay.
 

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I do get your point about condemnation vs salvation, but a significant difference is that you choose to have sex, have a drink, etc. You don't choose to be gay.
Perhaps not.
Free will may not exist for any action. Predestination believed by some christian sects also points to no free will.
 
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