- Jun 30, 2014
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Your forward line is non existent and the manner in which the ball comes in is toxic.I feel like there will be improvement regardless of who coaches the Pies in 2018.
Even this year has been an improvement over 2015 and 2016. The win-loss ratio will be what people judge on, but if people have actually watched and followed the Pies this year, they've been competitive in nearly every game, and have lost a lot of close ones. We haven't gotten pumped or looked miles off the pace.
Going into the season, I put us in the 9th-12th range this year, and depending on the weekend's results, we could still finish 12th. People will say seeing positives in a year like this is "embracing mediocrity", but the competitiveness is definitely there, and list is heading in the right direction IMO.
Hardwick may not have had the best list in the league over the last few years but very 17 coaches also haven't. What Hardwick has had is the best run with injuries to important players of any coach in probably the history of the game.You're denying that Hardwick has achieved some success with an average list?
He's made finals more times than Nathan, and inheriting a basket case of a club, as opposed to a top of the table organisation.
But anyway, this delusion that some Pies supporters have that Buckley has been under ridiculous attention is the biggest myth in football.
If you want to be "the biggest club" in the land, don't bitch about it when the coach who's led his team from 2nd on the ladder to 13th cops reasonable scrutiny.
I'm not sure any President who made the decision to sack a premiership coach half way into their back-to-back attempt would have lasted as long as Eddie has either. Just proves that one person runs the whole show at Collingwood, and that is a very unhealthy situation to be in.Any other coach who has taken his team backwards every year for 6 years would be out on his ear.
It's only because of how badly it would reflect on Eddie, that Bucks has stayed as long as he has (IMHO).
Please don't try and re-write history; Malthouse's departure timeline was documented in 2009.I'm not sure any President who made the decision to sack a premiership coach half way into their back-to-back attempt would have lasted as long as Eddie has either. Just proves that one person runs the whole show at Collingwood, and that is a very unhealthy situation to be in.
You haven't heard shit, stop making stuff up and passing it off as a rumour.Whispers around AFL player circle's that Bucks is finally off the bus after coaching the last game of the year against Melbourne. I'm not sure if that's the final outcome myself as It's a hard one to gage.
Any luck with injuries he's had has been more than offset by his club's drafting and trading.Hardwick may not have had the best list in the league over the last few years but very 17 coaches also haven't. What Hardwick has had is the best run with injuries to important players of any coach in probably the history of the game.
People always says this.....but a great reputation didn't help Voss and many other legends.Totally agree. If his name wasn't Nathan Buckley he'd have been out the door well and truly by now.
Richmond have lost Maric and a reasonably well performing Vickery from their 2014-2015 side for this year, and are likely to finish 4th. I'd hardly say their list is average now, and it has almost gone backwards since 2014-2015.Comparison often made with Hardwick
But Hardwick showed serious ability in taking a terrible list to finals in 3? seasons
And just missing out on top 4 with a list that was not top 4 quality
If true, shows he knows the Pies are more than a year away. Hope for their own sake they don't chase quick success when the likes of Moore need a whole lot of time to reach their potential.Only offered a 1 year deal by the pies and has knocked it back.
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A lot to do with Eddie wanting to be right about Buckley I think.People always says this.....but a great reputation didn't help Voss and many other legends.
There is more to it, such as his brilliant performances in the media, making it difficult to write him off.
Better give him another 6 years just to make sureIf, after 6 years in charge, we are all still talking about Buckley and his lack tactical nous and needing to have a senior mentor by his side, I think we all know the answer as to whether or not he is the right man for the job.
Yes, you are correct, it was a poor choice of wording. What I meant to say was after winning the flag in 2010, Collingwood still had the best list in the competition, and it was clear Malthouse wanted to continue coaching. It caused a split in the club mid-2011 that, IMHO, cost the club a genuine chance of back-to-back flags. My club in 2011 weren't Collingwood's standard, and yet we nearly won the PF. The damage was done. Eddie should have seen this earlier and done something about it.Please don't try and re-write history; Malthouse's departure timeline was documented in 2009.
That said, I agree with your other point - Ed's dominance of our club is extremely unhealthy.