Club History The Carlton GOAT - NOW VOTING!

[Benaly28]

Rhys just.Integral to our 87’ win.Underated could play back/wing very versatile though obviously very undisciplined.Lance let himself down back end of career re fitness.


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[Accidental genius]

......By the time hyphen retired he held the record for the most tribunal visits – 25!

 

[HyphensBack]

The Hyphen of course!

Lance was good, really good, but not a great.
the Hyphen was good, not great, but a Norm Smith in a winning GF gets him the chocolates in this H2H from me

 

[Michael Jezz]

Whitnall had major flaws as a footballer with pace and fitness. Rhyce was a complete footballer like most of the winners in the head to head contests here.

 

[Planet14]

I wonder how many are voting for Rhys-Jones off the back of one game?

 

[Red Bull]

Whitnall had major flaws as a footballer with pace and fitness. Rhyce was a complete footballer like most of the winners in the head to head contests here.

One of the most undisciplined players to ever play the game could hardly be classed as a “complete footballer” ...

 

[BlueGum]

Hyphen for me.

But loved Big Red's big footy brain. Got to some footballs he had no right to, by reading the play and using his body.

 

[one_twelve112]

I wonder how many are voting for Rhys-Jones off the back of one game?

Did you see his return from major knee surgery game against * at Windy Hill in 1992?

 

[Michael Jezz]

One of the most undisciplined players to ever play the game could hardly be classed as a “complete footballer” ...

What I would do to have rhyce in this side. He didn't play soft. Do you consider why he has a premiership medal? When you win a norm smith you are best on ground in the biggest game of the year. Therefore you are a complete player who was the major factor in your team reaching the summit

 

[Arr0w]

Let's swap both players in the era they played in, the support they had ( yeah I know)

Lance's footy brain was elite, skillset was also through the roof, Lance for me, just

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

This'll go down to the wire. Went Hyphen. Unfair really, he had a helluva lot of stars around him.

But wasn’t out of place amongst any of them, super talented player, knee/ankles wrecked his last few years...

 

[Red Bull]

What I would do to have rhyce in this side. He didn't play soft. Do you consider why he has a premiership medal? When you win a norm smith you are best on ground in the biggest game of the year. Therefore you are a complete player who was the major factor in your team reaching the summit

I too would love Rhys in this team today.
But that’s a different matter than labeling him a complete footballer.
He probably has a premiership medal because in that era, Carlton had the most money.
That’s the way it was then.
I’m not here to knock Rhys, but it is well documented Brereton probably shouldn’t have even been out there, that said, Rhys did the job.
Talented, skilled, passionate ... but not complete.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

I wonder how many are voting for Rhys-Jones off the back of one game?

That would be incredibly silly for those who seen his career he was an incredible talented player just created time and space for himself, wonderful footy brain played a little like Pendlebury not quick great vision and evasiveness but just made things happen with the ball... played hard and copped it hard but took it on the chin...
Rhys for me...

 

[thylacine60]

had the laconics, very few do, andrew mcleod, pendles, wanganeen........

 

[Planet14]

Did you see his return from major knee surgery game against * at Windy Hill in 1992?

I was most likely there.

Point I was making, is I don't know Rhys-Jones career stacks up to the Lance if the Norm Smith winning performance is removed. Whitnall played twice as many games, a B&F, all-Australian, and several top 10 B&F finishes. Rhys was a good player among many greats.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

For me i don’t get just because a player played with greats he is assumed to be lucky particularly compared to others of different eras of different circumstances even if he was a great player himself.
I understand there are and have been plenty of players that are solid players lucky enough to play in great sides surrounded by greats, but Rhys’s talents were far beyond a solid or lucky player...

 

[thylacine60]

who said he was lucky? who?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

had the laconics, very few do, andrew mclean, pendles, wanganeen........

Mark Waugh....

 

[Vamos Juddamente]

If only Lance had the hunger his first 4 year numbers were arguably better than any key forward in the last 30 years. Such a pity he could have been an absolute legend.

 

[thylacine60]

Mark Waugh....

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

who said he was lucky? who?

No one, my choice of word, just my interpretation of how some players that play in great sides with great players are sometimes not recognized for how really good they were...

 

[haveago]

Mark Waugh....

Ernie Els ….could watch his swing all day

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Ernie Els ….could watch his swing all day

Yep, bit like the Greg Williams delayed look away handball release....poetry in motion.

 

[Wickzki]

Imagine Fev and Whitnall in a strong, positive, culture.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Imagine Fev and Whitnall in a strong, positive, culture.

Often think about how potent and well balanced our forward line could have been if we could of kept it all together with the right culture.

In the 2000 PF vs * we had Fevola, Whitnall, Hamill, Lappin, Hickmott.... Betts and Houlihan weren’t that far away from joining them also!