Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[thylacine60]

Is this the thread to whine about our clash jumper? Cos I really wanna do that.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/clash-guernseys.1300364/

ffs..........

 

[mediumsizered]

The Dopers have cut Ronald Fejo from their SSP tryout list. I reckon we should have a look at him, either as a potential SSP selection, or to sign him to our VFL team. He could be a real excitement machine.

 

[thylacine60]

Ronald Fejo Jnr Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

 

[katmanblue]

I am not a fan of it either.

I hate the whining too.

 

[BigBreakfast]

I'll take Scarlett over any of them - genuine warrior mongrel who never once took a dive or played for a free and made every forward earn every point they scored.

Give me SOS.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Champion Data rates Nic Nat as the competitions best player. Please. What a joke. Makes a farce of anything else they purport.

 

[thylacine60]

I don't buy into the Rance hate.

What I saw was an extremely skilled defender, both one-on-one AND intercepting. I saw matches where he was basically a one-man defensive wall.

OK, so he didn't always get the opposition's most dangerous fwd. And he didn't play full lockdown FB. Yes, he zoned off quite a bit but he was given license to roam. IMO he produced the type of football we would want/expect from Weitering if he was let off the chain.

He was every bit the best defender of that era (alongside Jeremy McGovern and Luke McPharlin who I think was grossly underrated).

yep, won me over and I did everything I could to deny him - the diving didn't help his cause but yeah, he was some sort of defender.........

 

[Benaly28]

Mick Mcguane……..bottom 5 midfiled,really?


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[SkyhorseTamer]

Mick Mcguane……..bottom 5 midfiled,really?


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What have we proved? Our midfield may be chock full of talent but it has comfortably been bottom 5 on output for years.

 

[RPCB]

What have we proved? Our midfield may be chock full of talent but it has comfortably been bottom 5 on output for years.

Yep. I would like to say our midfield is great but they need to prove it first. Walsh, Cerra and Cripps is some serious talent, although Cripps needs to show it moving forward. Some other clubs midfields are 5-6 deep in that mold. After those three, out next tier is Hewett, Kennedy, Dow, Ed Curnow, maybe Williams heads back into midfield. Maybe Kemp, Stocker, Martin all get midfield time this year.

The midfield can be a very good one but they need to show it.

 

[jj1978]

If you are laughing at our midfield rating by McGuane wait for the facepalm moment for what he’s ranked our forward line... * is way ahead.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Yep. I would like to say our midfield is great but they need to prove it first. Walsh, Cerra and Cripps is some serious talent, although Cripps needs to show it moving forward. Some other clubs midfields are 5-6 deep in that mold. After those three, out next tier is Hewett, Kennedy, Dow, Ed Curnow, maybe Williams heads back into midfield. Maybe Kemp, Stocker, Martin all get midfield time this year.

The midfield can be a very good one but they need to show it.

Hewett is a clear #3/#4 in the pecking order.

Have always rated him very highly. A junk yard dog with class....

Kennedy looked like he belonged in the second half of last season. Smart footballer. Can kick well, mark very well and generally uses the pill well. Good niggler too.

Cuners as the 6th key mid?

Martin and Williams are both very capable mids too - at least in cameo roles.

(Williams' 2019 Prelim Final effort against the Pies is the stuff of legend; Jack M. just needs to stay on the park - & the magic will come)

And by the law of averages of the footy gods - one (maybe two) of Dow, LOB, Carroll, Philp, Stocker or Kemp will step up and really shine this year.

 

[RPCB]

Hewett is a clear #3/#4 in the pecking order.

Have always rated him very highly. A junk yard dog with class....

Kennedy looked like he belonged in the second half of last season. Smart footballer. Can kick well, mark very well and generally uses the pill well. Good niggler too.

Cuners as the 6th key mid?

Martin and Williams are both very capable mids too - at least in cameo roles.

(Williams' 2019 Prelim Final effort against the Pies is the stuff of legend; Jack M. just needs to stay on the park - & the magic will come)

And by the law of averages of the footy gods - one (maybe two) of Dow, LOB, Carroll, Philp, Stocker or Kemp will step up and really shine this year.

I really hope so. I missed a few, it will be an interesting year to see who steps up.

 

[Beyond Blue]

What have we proved? Our midfield may be chock full of talent but it has comfortably been bottom 5 on output for years.

100% this and it’s supported by the fact we’ve been a regular fixture in the bottom 6 over the past 5 years. Walsh and Cripps are the only top 50 midfielders we have. Most teams have 3 and the best teams have 4.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

100% this and it’s supported by the fact we’ve been a regular fixture in the bottom 6 over the past 5 years. Walsh and Cripps are the only top 50 midfielders we have. Most teams have 3 and the best teams have 4.

Cerra, and possibly Hewett, would walk into most AFL midfield groups.....

I reckon you're in for a pleasant shock as to just how much these two guys will improve our midfield - and team!

Adam Cerra and Patrick Cripps AFL Stats Comparison

Adam Cerra and Patrick Cripps AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

 

[Beyond Blue]

Cerra, and possibly Hewett, would walk into most AFL midfield groups.....

I reckon you're in for a pleasant shock as to just how much these two guys will improve our midfield - and team!

Adam Cerra and Patrick Cripps AFL Stats Comparison

Adam Cerra and Patrick Cripps AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

I agree it definitely should improve with Cerra and Hewett now at the club but the likes of Setterfield, Kennedy, Ed, Fisher Cunningham, Fogarty etc are so far off being top 50 mids it’s not funny.

 

[FRUMPY]

I agree it definitely should improve with Cerra and Hewett now at the club but the likes of Setterfield, Kennedy, Ed, Fisher Cunningham, Fogarty etc are so far off being top 50 mids it’s not funny.

were they meant to be?

 

[jjsmitty8]

Hey all, don’t mind me, got a genuine Carlton question for ya. My dad who played juniors and seniors for Lalor in the 80’s and 90’s was no help, so this was my next best option haha.

I’ve been reading through the AFL Record 2022 Season Guide (full of greatness this book, but anyway), in particular I was reading through Carlton’s draft history around 1988-1993. It was pointed out to me by a work colleague that Anthony Koutafides wasn’t mentioned. I cross referenced with a few other things in the book to try and work out how he came to be a Carlton player but to no avail.

Being born in 1991 and not really having a lot of knowledge about footy pre-2000, I took to Google but still not sure I exactly understand how things came to fruition. It says something about the Carlton reserves but then all of a sudden he’s just a Carlton senior player.

It appears to me that a) he was never drafted? and b) some other sort of system must’ve been in play? Maybe zone stuff?

Anyone care to enlighten me, I’m genuinely interested.

 

[Boy with chook]

Hey all, don’t mind me, got a genuine Carlton question for ya. My dad who played juniors and seniors for Lalor in the 80’s and 90’s was no help, so this was my next best option haha.

I’ve been reading through the AFL Record 2022 Season Guide (full of greatness this book, but anyway), in particular I was reading through Carlton’s draft history around 1988-1993. It was pointed out to me by a work colleague that Anthony Koutafides wasn’t mentioned. I cross referenced with a few other things in the book to try and work out how he came to be a Carlton player but to no avail.

Being born in 1991 and not really having a lot of knowledge about footy pre-2000, I took to Google but still not sure I exactly understand how things came to fruition. It says something about the Carlton reserves but then all of a sudden he’s just a Carlton senior player.

It appears to me that a) he was never drafted? and b) some other sort of system must’ve been in play? Maybe zone stuff?

Anyone care to enlighten me, I’m genuinely interested.

Kouta came through the under 19s I think?

 

[Dadda Dave]

Hewett is a clear #3/#4 in the pecking order.

Have always rated him very highly. A junk yard dog with class....

Kennedy looked like he belonged in the second half of last season. Smart footballer. Can kick well, mark very well and generally uses the pill well. Good niggler too.

Cuners as the 6th key mid?

Martin and Williams are both very capable mids too - at least in cameo roles.

(Williams' 2019 Prelim Final effort against the Pies is the stuff of legend; Jack M. just needs to stay on the park - & the magic will come)

And by the law of averages of the footy gods - one (maybe two) of Dow, LOB, Carroll, Philp, Stocker or Kemp will step up and really shine this year.

Hewett tagged Cripps once and towled him up ,Crippa hardly touched it
I rate him very high.
Can play different roles and do well.

 

[Doro]

Hey all, don’t mind me, got a genuine Carlton question for ya. My dad who played juniors and seniors for Lalor in the 80’s and 90’s was no help, so this was my next best option haha.

I’ve been reading through the AFL Record 2022 Season Guide (full of greatness this book, but anyway), in particular I was reading through Carlton’s draft history around 1988-1993. It was pointed out to me by a work colleague that Anthony Koutafides wasn’t mentioned. I cross referenced with a few other things in the book to try and work out how he came to be a Carlton player but to no avail.

Being born in 1991 and not really having a lot of knowledge about footy pre-2000, I took to Google but still not sure I exactly understand how things came to fruition. It says something about the Carlton reserves but then all of a sudden he’s just a Carlton senior player.

It appears to me that a) he was never drafted? and b) some other sort of system must’ve been in play? Maybe zone stuff?

Anyone care to enlighten me, I’m genuinely interested.

Here's a link to his Blueseum page. Invited to train with the u19s side.





https://www.blueseum.org/Anthony+Koutoufides

 

[ETET]

Hewett tagged Cripps once and towled him up ,Crippa hardly touched it
I rate him very high.
Can play different roles and do well.

Yep, I live in Sydney, Hewett tagged Cripps nearly every time they played and he was a big problem. I use to look at the Swans team sheet and hope Hewett was not playing when the Blues came up. Unlike a few of our midfielders over the years. Hewett is a disciplined, no nonsense competitor,, that puts the team first. He is built like a man and plays like one.

 

[ferrisb]

Yep, I live in Sydney, Hewett tagged Cripps nearly every time they played and he was a big problem. I use to look at the Swans team sheet and hope Hewett was not playing when the Blues came up. Unlike a few of our midfielders over the years. Hewett is a disciplined, no nonsense competitor,, that puts the team first. He is built like a man and plays like one.

Hewett was exactly the kind of player we needed.

 

[Beyond Blue]

were they meant to be?

I also meant to include Dow in that list, but even so I would say "yes" we would have expected at least one of them to become a third top line midfield option. None of them are close to being top 50 and some would not even be top 100 midfielders.

 

[Arr0w]

Exactly the kind of player we needed.

Simple but very accurate

We have no one like Hewett on the list

After starting as a mid size forward, progressed to playing that "Ling" like tagging role but could still win the pill.

Disposal on both sides is extremely underrated, like his game sense and awareness. Has elite endurance

Can also play as a defender

If Dusty plays round 1, Hewett is the perfect match up, through the middle and when Dusty is resting foward