Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 3

[HereComesJuddy]

Thursday sadly

Hate losing on a Thursday

 

[sweethoney]

Hate losing on a Thursday

Same go to the pub for a counter meal at smokeo and the bloody replay is always on

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Same go to the pub for a counter meal at smokeo and the bloody replay is always on

That hurts mate. I hold the hurt all weekend. Only thing that gets me out of my funk is seeing * lose. No joke. As soon as those cheats lose I’m up and about like my team just won the premiership them losing is like therapy for me

 

[sweethoney]

That hurts mate. I hold the hurt all weekend. Only thing that gets me out of my funk is seeing * lose. No joke. As soon as those cheats lose I’m up and about like my team just won the premiership them losing is like therapy for me

My pain just sticks around all week unfortunately. Especially while I’m working with a Collingwood and hawthorn supporter on this job

 

[katmanblue]

Liam Stocker? That’s 2.

Jack Carroll

 

[TheBlueCampaigner]

Anyone know how to cancel the auto renewal for the membership? Asking for a friend.

 

[myblueroan]

Anyone know how to cancel the auto renewal for the membership? Asking for a friend.

Why yes, friend. I do
They will tell you you have to wait until August as you cannot cancel during the season

They will make a note and call you at last payment of the season, to see if you still wish to cancel.
Then you can say something like...

Well, tell me your plan to get us out of the shithole we are in and then I'll let you know if I want back in before the season starts.

 

[sweethoney]

Anyone know how to cancel the auto renewal for the membership? Asking for a friend.

Just ring the bank an say you’ve lost ya card

 

[Chief]

Anyone know how to cancel the auto renewal for the membership? Asking for a friend.

Does your friend have a microwave?

 

[RPCB]

Anyone know how to cancel the auto renewal for the membership? Asking for a friend.

Email the club and they should take you off for next year.

That’s what I am going to do. My card expires in October, so it’s more a courtesy email.

 

[Rustica]

I saw the clip of Nick Daicos getting bullied by the Swans i think it was and his brother + Maynard where straight in to start a fight

I dont care if they get a suspension but i want one of our leaders to literally knock a bloke out and take a hard stance

 

[Bale Dup]

I saw the clip of Nick Daicos getting bullied by the Swans i think it was and his brother + Maynard where straight in to start a fight

I dont care if they get a suspension but i want one of our leaders to literally knock a bloke out and take a hard stance

Not sure about knocking someone out but a stand needs to be made in situations like that and the TDK/Xerri incident.
From all my years of watching this game, every unified team would make a stand in those situations.
We are simply not a unified team. That is for sure and certain.

 

[Coona Blues]

Not sure about knocking someone out but a stand needs to be made in situations like that and the TDK/Xerri incident.
From all my years of watching this game, every unified team would make a stand in those situations.
We are simply not a unified team. That is for sure and certain.

It is all about belonging, ownership and commitment to one another. Aside from club culture and cameraderie among a group with a common purpose promoting a certain level, it is 100% about the coaching group (and leadership group) ensuring each and every member of our squad has a sense of belonging and commitment to each other.

While I do not question the commitment to the cause of our leadership group, I lament that all are prone to acts of “putting the team on my back” as opposed to the empowering of team mates and doing the sacrificial thing for the greater good. Growing those around them has not been a thing.

It goes back to thr Ratten days. It has been a tendency to shape our game around the “stars”. My biggest criticism of Ratts was that he relied on his stars and dictated that all others were there to support them. This feeling has continued ever since, bar the Bolton years which had the guns, the “meat shields” Moneyball types and the kids. Bolts focussed too much on the kids and promoted factions. He had the Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Cuningham and Silvagni group as a club reset, relegated the senior types and ignored the footsoldiers. Teague returned to status quo and lifted the team temporarily off the back of the aging “stars”.

Voss is another to put it on the leaders. And play the kids and others in support roles as opposed to integrating them. During this period Ratts to now, the coaching evolved, the game is now a 22/23 man show, more than ever before. Roles have evolved, players must be two way, or have structures built in to accommodate the odd superstar one way worker. Voss incorporates too many negating players to support his premium pieces. These days, the premium types must do their bit in defence, two way running. Voss still engages his mosquito fleet to work excessively defensively, couldn’t wait to bring Cinc back as a tagger, offering little offensively by deployment.

The deployment again makes divisions in the group. We need to embrace a full team, full squad ethos. Everything is creating divisions. We now have the (relatively) new dads focussing on the kids in the crèche, even on game day. It is not unreasonable for some players to either find career best form or drop off after starting a family. Think we have a couple who have gone each way.

The Cats, Pies and a couple of other clubs have established the playing groups and many of their support staff as families, and no they don’t have to be parents. We do not have that level of cameraderie. The boys are mostly mates, but in puff pieces have identified cliques for want of a better word (may, be too strong).

We need a coaching and welfare group mindful of creating unity. I am not talking the modern “learned” leadership, we need good old fashioned instinctive, natural cohesion production. Not this contrived hand/fist slaps and punches crap if something good OR bad occurs. Going through the motions means nothing, genuine emotions over tokenism please.

 

[Rustica]

It is all about belonging, ownership and commitment to one another. Aside from club culture and cameraderie among a group with a common purpose promoting a certain level, it is 100% about the coaching group (and leadership group) ensuring each and every member of our squad has a sense of belonging and commitment to each other.

While I do not question the commitment to the cause of our leadership group, I lament that all are prone to acts of “putting the team on my back” as opposed to the empowering of team mates and doing the sacrificial thing for the greater good. Growing those around them has not been a thing.

It goes back to thr Ratten days. It has been a tendency to shape our game around the “stars”. My biggest criticism of Ratts was that he relied on his stars and dictated that all others were there to support them. This feeling has continued ever since, bar the Bolton years which had the guns, the “meat shields” Moneyball types and the kids. Bolts focussed too much on the kids and promoted factions. He had the Weitering, McKay, Curnow, Cuningham and Silvagni group as a club reset, relegated the senior types and ignored the footsoldiers. Teague returned to status quo and lifted the team temporarily off the back of the aging “stars”.

Voss is another to put it on the leaders. And play the kids and others in support roles as opposed to integrating them. During this period Ratts to now, the coaching evolved, the game is now a 22/23 man show, more than ever before. Roles have evolved, players must be two way, or have structures built in to accommodate the odd superstar one way worker. Voss incorporates too many negating players to support his premium pieces. These days, the premium types must do their bit in defence, two way running. Voss still engages his mosquito fleet to work excessively defensively, couldn’t wait to bring Cinc back as a tagger, offering little offensively by deployment.

The deployment again makes divisions in the group. We need to embrace a full team, full squad ethos. Everything is creating divisions. We now have the (relatively) new dads focussing on the kids in the crèche, even on game day. It is not unreasonable for some players to either find career best form or drop off after starting a family. Think we have a couple who have gone each way.

The Cats, Pies and a couple of other clubs have established the playing groups and many of their support staff as families, and no they don’t have to be parents. We do not have that level of cameraderie. The boys are mostly mates, but in puff pieces have identified cliques for want of a better word (may, be too strong).

We need a coaching and welfare group mindful of creating unity. I am not talking the modern “learned” leadership, we need good old fashioned instinctive, natural cohesion production. Not this contrived hand/fist slaps and punches crap if something good OR bad occurs. Going through the motions means nothing, genuine emotions over tokenism please.

So many times yesterday watching from level 2

We concede a goal and the forwards are high fiving and giving each other bum taps - when half the time its their fault because of a lack of effort, turnover etc

The leaders need to keep everyone and each other accountable - not ****ing high fives and bum taps but stern words and discussion at each goal conceded

 

[swuzzlebubble]

We concede a goal and the forwards are high fiving and giving each other bum taps - when half the time its their fault because of a lack of effort, turnover etc

Poor take. They're not celebrating. They're consoling. "Keep your chin up, let's get the next one". Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Rustica]

Poor take. They're not celebrating. They're consoling. "Keep your chin up, let's get the next one". Nothing wrong with that.

Maybe once not 10 times though

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Maybe once not 10 times though

Would you rather they held an intervention mid game and voted someone off the island?

 

[Rustica]

Would you rather they held an intervention mid game and voted someone off the island?

Just want to see more accountability thats all

Coaches included

What Voss did at 3 qtr time yesterday whether it was directed to a single player or the whole group needs to happen more often

More emotion please from everyone

 

[Jatz]

We'll find out, won't we.

Won't be the walk in the park most would think it'll be.

Sadly called this earlier last week.

I don't think there's a club in the comp that wouldn't be sniffing blood if they played us right now. You could argue Richmond but, well, round 1 happened.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Poor take. They're not celebrating. They're consoling. "Keep your chin up, let's get the next one". Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, let's get the next one only to allow the opposition to waltz through and sail home another...

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Yeah, let's get the next one only to allow the opposition to waltz through and sail home another...

Never said it's not a foolproof strategy

 

[blueboy25]

Question for the Melbourne folks.

I am heading over with three year 10 sides and parents for a footy trip to Melbourne in a few weeks including the Baggers v Brisvegas game.

Any recommendations for a few pubs close to marvel for a pregame meal and beer.

Only issue is there are over 100 of us.

 

[Aphrodite]

Question for the Melbourne folks.

I am heading over with three year 10 sides and parents for a footy trip to Melbourne in a few weeks including the Baggers v Brisvegas game.

Any recommendations for a few pubs close to marvel for a pregame meal and beer.

Only issue is there are over 100 of us.

I have always liked Platform 28 pre-game which is opposite Marvel. It's a more upmarket pub.

Give them a call and see if they can accomodate your large group.

Contact Us | Platform 28

Platform 28 is a charming restaurant bar offering Modern Australian cuisine in the heart of vibrant Docklands. Formerly a railway goods shed, this venue stays true to the history of the site and brings a rustic historical charm that’s bound to win the heart of the locals.

www.platform28.com.au

There is also The Nixon which is more of your standard pub

Nixon Hotel - Pub in the Docklands - 757 Bourke St, Docklands 3008

Nestled in the heart Docklands, Nixon is your local pub in the Docklands with all your sporting needs, and a short walk from Marvel Stadium!

nixonhotel.au

 

[blueboy25]

I have always liked Platform 28 pre-game which is opposite Marvel. It's a more upmarket pub.

Give them a call and see if they can accomodate your large group.

Contact Us | Platform 28

Platform 28 is a charming restaurant bar offering Modern Australian cuisine in the heart of vibrant Docklands. Formerly a railway goods shed, this venue stays true to the history of the site and brings a rustic historical charm that’s bound to win the heart of the locals.

www.platform28.com.au

There is also The Nixon which is more of your standard pub

Nixon Hotel - Pub in the Docklands - 757 Bourke St, Docklands 3008

Nestled in the heart Docklands, Nixon is your local pub in the Docklands with all your sporting needs, and a short walk from Marvel Stadium!

nixonhotel.au

Thank you, I have been to Platform 28 a few times but never with a group so large.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

For the last 18 months all Charlie has wanted to do is kick goals and bask in his own self centred glory.
Has shown nil interest in any other aspect of the game, particularly the team focussed components.
You’d hope it was because his knees are shot, evidence points more to a lack of want.
That’s damming on the individual, the coaching group and the club as a whole.
From my perspective, he’s the beacon of everything wrong with this club, he’s got plenty of mates too unfortunately.