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Record premiership droughts spurring AFL clubs in 2019



Perhaps the most significant member of the aforementioned group of clubs is Carlton.

Regarded as one of the powerhouse clubs of the competition in generations gone by, this year takes on historic significant because the Blues' active premiership drought will become their longest ever – surpassing the 23-year drought they experienced between 1915-1938.

After 81 years, the Blues have set a new benchmark of malaise for themselves, which is symbolic of how spectacular their fall from grace has been in the last couple of decades - five wooden spoons in 17 seasons and the loss of their status as a ‘Big Four’ Victorian club.
The changing of the guard isn’t only apparent in Carlton’s misfortune, though, because if their arch rival Essendon fail to win the flag this year, they too will enter their longest ever flag drought next season.
 
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A tackle is the same for every player.

As defined by CD "Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal."

Not sure why Murphy gets a hard time here, has been a great asset to the club from the very first day he was drafted.
But some players tackles are more impressive than others...
 
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A tackle is the same for every player.

As defined by CD "Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal."

Not sure why Murphy gets a hard time here, has been a great asset to the club from the very first day he was drafted.
And here is that in video format. Dustin Martin awarded 7 tackles. I counted 1.

 

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As defined by CD "Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal."
And here is that in video format. Dustin Martin awarded 7 tackles. I counted 1.

And there you have it folks,

an Atempted tackle is counted as a tackle stat.

Happy to be proven wrong.

looking forward to the future..

Go Blues.
Whilst none of those in the video were traditional wrap him up ball and all tackles they all fit champion data’s definition, which I’ve got at the top. All of those actions by dusty resulted in a turnover or at least a disposal that went nowhere.

Sooo. I saw 7 times dusty used physical contact to prevent the opposition getting an effective disposal.
 

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As defined by CD "Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal."


Whilst none of those in the video were traditional wrap him up ball and all tackles they all fit champion data’s definition, which I’ve got at the top. All of those actions by dusty resulted in a turnover or at least a disposal that went nowhere.

Sooo. I saw 7 times dusty used physical contact to prevent the opposition getting an effective disposal.
Whereas I see a player that missed his target while dusty was in the proximity 6 times and a tackle 1 time.
 

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As defined by CD "Using physical contact to prevent an opponent in possession of the ball from getting an effective disposal."


Whilst none of those in the video were traditional wrap him up ball and all tackles they all fit champion data’s definition, which I’ve got at the top. All of those actions by dusty resulted in a turnover or at least a disposal that went nowhere.

Sooo. I saw 7 times dusty used physical contact to prevent the opposition getting an effective disposal.

see what you see, believe what you want to believe.


lets just leave it, and move on.
 

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Whereas I see a player that missed his target while dusty was in the proximity 6 times and a tackle 1 time.
Well yeah. But that still conforms to champion data’s definition. Dusty used some physical contact and their was an ineffective disposal in the end.

Stats need to be objective so they’ve gotta draw the line somewhere on what defines a tackle. This is what they’ve come up with.
 
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Well yeah. But that still conforms to champion data’s definition. Dusty used some physical contact and their was an ineffective disposal in the end.

Stats need to be objective so they’ve gotta draw the line somewhere on what defines a tackle. This is what they’ve come up with.
When I first saw that video I thought there must be a lot of tackles counted during football matches if they classify as tackles but no. It’s just the stat padding of Dustin Martin. If someone like SPS was doing the exact same thing it would be called a pressure act NOT a tackle.
 

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see what you see, believe what you want to believe.


lets just leave it, and move on.
Would have always loved to have seen Murphy with a bigger and better midfield. IMO played the role he had to but wasn’t suited to. If he had played as a winger/outside mid he would have been more appreciated (and less injured)

Absolutely given his best all the time and I can’t criticise him for it. If anything I have high respect for what he has done.
 
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