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God I hope he smashes it and sticks it up all those who traded him out!
A lot of us have been copping some 0's for this- would be sweet revenge indeed.
 
Woohoo..! All the people that traded Cornes away will now face the consequences..! :)

This is actually a great result for those of us who traded out Chad. Not only picking up Chapman, Cox, and making 200K on the Ibbo trade in doing so, as well as moving up 4200 places in the overall comp with the advantage, to have him come back for the Swans game is perfect.

Now he can focus on achieving his average of 51 he has racked up against Goodes the last 3 times they have played. If he does struggle, add that to his 65 and price should be gold in 3 weeks time. Trade out Ibbo at the time and make 200K on the deal plus the benefits mentioned above. We need him to play this week to get the price down quicker.

Go Chad!
 
with injuries to guerra and kennelly i was going to be 4 short in defence

that's 4 zero's - 6 short in the backline

i need a miracle - and i have a grudge match in my league coming up

i need the chad and maybe selwood to come in.

I NEED THE CHAD
 

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I will be happy to have himn back to remove a zero from my team - even though I will expect a reduction in his points output for at least a few weeks.
 
i remember last year when port played carlton chad went forward and just dominated the match. i know playing sydney is different, but we can only hope... :p

In 2 games last year against Carlton, Chad kicked a total of 1 goal and had 34 possessions.

Hardly dominated. In fact was well beaten. Chad is a safe captain for many DT sides most weeks but I wouldn't choose him against Carlton.
 
Does anyone know how far away Symes really is?
AFL website has him listed as 2-3 weeks
www.injuryupdate.com.au has him listed as available this week...

I've got Cornes, Waters and Symes with only Taylor/Scott D.T to cover so i desperately need at least 2 to play this week. Otherwise its Waters/Symes to King.
 
Does anyone know how far away Symes really is?
AFL website has him listed as 2-3 weeks
www.injuryupdate.com.au has him listed as available this week...

His foot was still in the Moonboot on the weekend so I don't think he's that close as yet.
Symes did an interview on the weekend and he said he only gets the boot off later this week. No chance against WCE, best case is ESS, probable (at this stage) is RICH - 3 weeks. He may also come back through the SANFL but I doubt it.
 
Does anyone know how far away Symes really is?
AFL website has him listed as 2-3 weeks
www.injuryupdate.com.au has him listed as available this week...

His foot was still in the Moonboot on the weekend so I don't think he's that close as yet.

Symes did an interview on the weekend and he said he only gets the boot off later this week. No chance against WCE, best case is ESS, probable (at this stage) is RICH - 3 weeks. He may also come back through the SANFL but I doubt it.

Thanks guys, looks like he is going to have to go :(
 
This is actually a great result for those of us who traded out Chad. Not only picking up Chapman, Cox, and making 200K on the Ibbo trade in doing so, as well as moving up 4200 places in the overall comp with the advantage, to have him come back for the Swans game is perfect.

Now he can focus on achieving his average of 51 he has racked up against Goodes the last 3 times they have played. If he does struggle, add that to his 65 and price should be gold in 3 weeks time. Trade out Ibbo at the time and make 200K on the deal plus the benefits mentioned above. We need him to play this week to get the price down quicker.

Go Chad!

I really hope you convinced yourself it was a great idea to trade him out and in.

But in reality you traded a player out and now are bringing him back in, its wasting 2 trades and doesnt improve your team. There are much more effective ways to make money then sell your best players and buy them back at a slightly deflated price.
 
I really hope you convinced yourself it was a great idea to trade him out and in.

But in reality you traded a player out and now are bringing him back in, its wasting 2 trades and doesnt improve your team. There are much more effective ways to make money then sell your best players and buy them back at a slightly deflated price.

Interesting definition of waste. If a cash cow makes 100K you need 2 of them upgraded to make 200K (hence 2 trades).

Not really sure how using 2 trades to make 200K on this deal is any different, except that it allowed me to score extra points while Chad was out and upgrade players earlier.

Aggressive, yes.
Breaks DT rules, absolutely
Right or wrong, only time will tell.
 

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Woohoo..! All the people that traded Cornes away will now face the consequences..! :)

Yes, but its a complex comparison

I have to see whether Cornes Stanton and Rioli score more combined from now than P Burgoyne J Corey and Brad Johnson as trading cornes allowed me to upgrade stanton and Rioli.
 
Yes, but its a complex comparison

I have to see whether Cornes Stanton and Rioli score more combined from now than P Burgoyne J Corey and Brad Johnson as trading cornes allowed me to upgrade stanton and Rioli.

And in the meantime wasting 3 trades and trading out the best back this year in a pretty sh1t year in the back division, but who knows, it could pay off...
 
Yes, but its a complex comparison

I have to see whether Cornes Stanton and Rioli score more combined from now than P Burgoyne J Corey and Brad Johnson as trading cornes allowed me to upgrade stanton and Rioli.

Nice point Jars. I have the same situation with Cox, Chapman and Ibbo in place of Hill, Gilmore and Chad. Know which wagon I'd rather be on.

It's a little more complex than just saying "never trade out and back in". Whilst trades are used, the team is improving. If Chad is the best value back available in 3-4 weeks time he comes back in, if not, he doesn't.

Use BJ as an example. If you were worried about the injury in round 2 and dumped him for Rioli, does that mean you never bring him back? No. You bring him back IF he's the best value forward available. If you traded him out at 430K, watched Rioli jump from 83K to 260K and traded BJ back in at around 320K you would be fairly satisfied with the value of your 2 trades. Not as simple as saying "I can't trade him back in, have to look for someone else".
 
Nice point Jars. I have the same situation with Cox, Chapman and Ibbo in place of Hill, Gilmore and Chad. Know which wagon I'd rather be on.

It's a little more complex than just saying "never trade out and back in". Whilst trades are used, the team is improving. If Chad is the best value back available in 3-4 weeks time he comes back in, if not, he doesn't.

Use BJ as an example. If you were worried about the injury in round 2 and dumped him for Rioli, does that mean you never bring him back? No. You bring him back IF he's the best value forward available. If you traded him out at 430K, watched Rioli jump from 83K to 260K and traded BJ back in at around 320K you would be fairly satisfied with the value of your 2 trades. Not as simple as saying "I can't trade him back in, have to look for someone else".

Couldn't agree with you more. There's an unwritten rule that you should NEVER trade a player out and then back in. Although on the surface it sounds pretty ridiculous to "waste" 2 trades on one player, the amount of cash and more importantly the extra points that you gain whilst the majority of people cop a 0 easily outweighs the use of a trade.

Like you said "You bring him back IF he's the best value forward available" DT is all about timing, if you trade out Cornes for an arguably cheap "cash cow" in Ibbo, make a fair amount of cash whilst receiving his 70-ish average ppg and then are looking to upgrade him once he peaks, you want to get the best value player available regardless of who it is. If you look at it closely it has worked out extremely well for you, and for someone to just says "you wasted 2 trades on 1 player makes you an idiot" is just ignorance.
 
I see the arguments for both sides, but essentially he has only been out for two games. Yes, you have made some cash by trading him down, but you have used two trades and ended up with the same player back in your side.

Whereas, you could have had him not playing, traded down a cash cow to make some money, then trade in another gun back or forward. Using two trades and having two guns instead of one.

Trades are too precious IMO.
 
Great that he's been given the all clear to play...but because Goodes keeps giving him a hiding in their matchups he might simply get a run with role on Goodes this week.
No way i;d make him captain thats for damn sure....i'd expect an 80-90 despite his record at home. If he starts going well then Roos will just put Goodes on him again.
 

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Trading a player out and trading back in can be worth it....in very rare circumstances.

Here, you have Chad out for, say, 3 weeks. Imagine you have insufficient backline cover (Waters, Symes etc.) Trading Chad -> Ibbo -> Chad (or some equivalent) would provide you 240 points over three weeks and 120K profit all for two trades, which is probably worth it. But it's rare that this will happen. You need a prime cash cow, you need the gun to be out long enough for the cash cow to gain money, you need the cash cow to perform, and you need to be out of substitutes.
 
Trading a player out and trading back in can be worth it....in very rare circumstances.

Here, you have Chad out for, say, 3 weeks. Imagine you have insufficient backline cover (Waters, Symes etc.) Trading Chad -> Ibbo -> Chad (or some equivalent) would provide you 240 points over three weeks and 120K profit all for two trades, which is probably worth it. But it's rare that this will happen. You need a prime cash cow, you need the gun to be out long enough for the cash cow to gain money, you need the cash cow to perform, and you need to be out of substitutes.

the longer the time between trading a player in and out i think increases the chance of it being a smart move.

Trading out J Brown after round 2 - and then say bringing him back in round 16 when he is firing is not dumb

but i do think trading chad in and out over 4-5 weeks is a little silly
 
Hasn't he only been out for two weeks though? Not worth that IMO.

Yup only 2 weeks, but i'm pretty sure he doesn't plan on bringing him back in this week due mainly to Port playing Sydney. Having a b/e of 149 and playing Sydney you would assume a pretty big drop in the coming weeks, at least 40k. In about 2-3 weeks would be the perfect time to get the Chad back in as he would have bottomed out, making it about 4-5 weeks total. Thus gaining alot more points, making/saving a fair load of cash whilst not suffering a couple of 0's works out pretty well in this case.

In saying all this i must state that i haven't actually traded Chad, copped two 0's last week and another 1 this week, but i think if you're league is your current priority then saving the trades is probably better, but if you're looking for an overall ranking then the agressive trading works.
 
I get what you are saying there, he will drop, but you are only gaining two weeks of points and the longer you wait for him to drop the more points he will score more than ibbo (not known until the games are played).

Theoretically, as I said you could upgrade someone else in your team to a gun and their points over the season will probably add up to more points than ibbo would get your for those two weeks. Depends if you're going for the league win or overall ranking.
 
The way i see it...i hope Chadwick scores 130 against the swans...drps like 10k...and then the week after scores like 120 staying around that price and then skyrocketing...that would be awesome!!!
 

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