The CHF problem...

[JayTee]

I think everyone should stop thinking about trading for a CHF so soon, I believe there may be a simple solution, try Thornton at CHF I know its risky but think about it, he doesent get a shot at goal much but every timeive seen him have a shot..hes kicked it, he can take a mark and has a nice long kick. Give him a shot at it and see how he goes, also we've got to try more players there before we think about a trade, Robert Warnock is another option, never seen him play forward but couldnt hurt to give it a shot.
We have a few players playing backling who I recon would do the job well if given the opportunity in Austin and Thornton, not saying this will solve the problem but Im saying give it a shot before we start talking about a trade.

your thoughts?

 

[murphbf08]

I think everyone should stop thinking about trading for a CHF so soon, I believe there may be a simple solution, try Thornton at CHF I know its risky but think about it, he doesent get a shot at goal much but every timeive seen him have a shot..hes kicked it, he can take a mark and has a nice long kick. Give him a shot at it and see how he goes, also we've got to try more players there before we think about a trade, Robert Warnock is another option, never seen him play forward but couldnt hurt to give it a shot.
We have a few players playing backling who I recon would do the job well if given the opportunity in Austin and Thornton, not saying this will solve the problem but Im saying give it a shot before we start talking about a trade.

your thoughts?

Thorntons way too slow, austin only playeda few games

 

[gbatman]

I agree, I would like to see him tried forward.

 

[serenityNow]

Kreuzer will be there when Warnock comes in. Thats why the club went after Warnock. With Warnock & Hammer rucking he can go forward. Jacobs is there to fill in if we have an injury. Jacobs looked good earlier in the year and will only get better. ATM its tough because we have Warnock and Jacobs injured.


* Its a shame we had to give up Kennedy. Seen a couple of his games this year, and yeah he's still abit raw but he is gonna dominate the eagles forward line in time.

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

Carlton's most important players are Warnock and Hampson. If those 2 can hold down our ruck stocks, Kreuzer can play as a permanent CHF, and all of a sudden a forwardline consisting of Fev and Kreuzer is mighty scary for oppositions

 

[Kramer1]

I don't understand this.

The guy has been brilliant in defense this year...easily his best year for us. Why put him forward??? It is unlikely to fix one problem whilst creating a bigger problem at the other end.

 

[smithos]

Thornton the pack buster? Thornton the hard, speedy leader? From what I have seen over the course of his career, Thornton's best attributes are his ability to read the play, zone off, and his poise with the ball in defense. To me that says he'd make a great hbf/back pocket.

I still think Fev works best with fast smaller Forwards than another go-to tall in the 50, when Yarran is ready I think he'll add a lot to the list. In the meantime we have about 3 drafts and trade periods to find our key forward succession plan to Fev.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

I think everyone should stop thinking about trading for a CHF so soon, I believe there may be a simple solution, try Thornton at CHF I know its risky but think about it, he doesent get a shot at goal much but every timeive seen him have a shot..hes kicked it, he can take a mark and has a nice long kick. Give him a shot at it and see how he goes, also we've got to try more players there before we think about a trade, Robert Warnock is another option, never seen him play forward but couldnt hurt to give it a shot.
We have a few players playing backling who I recon would do the job well if given the opportunity in Austin and Thornton, not saying this will solve the problem but Im saying give it a shot before we start talking about a trade.

your thoughts?

Do we have another Thornton that we've been hiding in a closet somewhere??

 

[Malifice]

From what I have seen over the course of his career, Thornton's best attributes are his ability to read the play, zone off, and his poise with the ball in defense.

Yeah but to be fair - he has played his entire career in defence, and primarily in this role.

If we were going to experiment with throwing him forward, I would have preferred it to happen in the NAB cup, rather than at the end of the season and at a crucial time for the club.

 

[Mister Carlton]

I think everyone should stop thinking about trading for a CHF so soon, I believe there may be a simple solution, try Thornton at CHF I know its risky but think about it, he doesent get a shot at goal much but every timeive seen him have a shot..hes kicked it, he can take a mark and has a nice long kick. Give him a shot at it and see how he goes, also we've got to try more players there before we think about a trade, Robert Warnock is another option, never seen him play forward but couldnt hurt to give it a shot.
We have a few players playing backling who I recon would do the job well if given the opportunity in Austin and Thornton, not saying this will solve the problem but Im saying give it a shot before we start talking about a trade.

your thoughts?

Thats as funny as saying that AJ is aboriginal. We need a CHF and badly. We picked up players like Yarran and Gartlett who will take 2+ years to develop into very good players. But they are too small to be a CHF. Ziebell would be ideal for us at the moment...

We need a tall youngster that will fill in Fevola's role when he is gone. *ahahah* Thornton at CHF. What about our backline then - he is the backbone of our defense. I believe that we need to draft strong this year and pick up a tall forward to grow. But we are doing very well at the moment and I doubt we will get a decent pick this year.

 

[mickelboy182]

Thats as funny as saying that AJ is aboriginal. We need a CHF and badly. We picked up players like Yarran and Gartlett who will take 2+ years to develop into very good players. But they are too small to be a CHF. Ziebell would be ideal for us at the moment..

Ziebell is 188cm.... Not exactly a good size for a CHF. Kreuze is the answer at CHF and although a lot have given up, I still have hopes for Harts to hold down a spot on the list as a KPF.

 

[Seychelles]

Kruezer won't be a permanent CHF ever. There's no way in the world that Hampson or Warnock will be able to develop that midfielder instict that Kreuzer has very much like Cox. Kreuzers pressure around the ball is A Class compared to other rucks.

 

[parrot]

I don't think we have a CHF problem. And I don't think JK was the answer either. The modern game requires more mobile types. Setanta showed lots of promise V Saints last week, and he'll be given a go for the next few weeks. Perfect height, excellent overhead, great leap, aggressive, and fast. May have found his niche. Matty Kruezer has lots of CHF potential, but he's just too good to play in one position. Austin's another with CHF potential, but I suspect they'll be reluctant to play him up forward until he has more time to develop in defence. Waite is a gun CHF, and will be used there more often next year as our younger defenders mature and take on more responsibility. Have a look at the oppositions CHF's - there ain't many great ones out there. Brown and Reidwolt, and that's about it. It's a difficult position, and the role of a CHF has changed a lot in recent years.

 

[Salaryman]

Very true parrot.... Jarrad is a perfect prototype for a modern CHF.....very athletic and mobile, good overhead, but isn't a liability when the ball isn't marked...good second efforts and will provide defensive pressure. Hard to match up on...with the continued development of Austin and Bower down back it is a real shame about the knee.....hopefully he doesn't lose too much of that athleticism when he returns. Agree with Kreuze, is just too good around the ground to plonk him at CHF for the rest of his career, but is certianly a very handy marking option to throw up forward when needed.

 

[Blueboys7]

Thats as funny as saying that AJ is aboriginal. We need a CHF and badly. We picked up players like Yarran and Gartlett who will take 2+ years to develop into very good players. But they are too small to be a CHF. Ziebell would be ideal for us at the moment...

We need a tall youngster that will fill in Fevola's role when he is gone. *ahahah* Thornton at CHF. What about our backline then - he is the backbone of our defense. I believe that we need to draft strong this year and pick up a tall forward to grow. But we are doing very well at the moment and I doubt we will get a decent pick this year.

You laughed at someone asking if AJ was aboriginal. Then laughed at someone for suggesting Thornton being tried up forward. I laughed when you suggested that we should have picked Ziebell to play CHF.

 

[HBF]

Whilst I see we have a CHF issue right now, it could quite easily be solved by round 1 next year. By this stage, we could quite easily have 3 options that could play through there in Waite, Setanta and Kreuzer.

All 3 provide something a little different, and could really prove to be a handful for the opposition. Losing Warnock, and now Waite has really hurt us as our flexibility where we can't structure up as we would like.

 

[Blue since 72]

Whilst I see we have a CHF issue right now, it could quite easily be solved by round 1 next year. By this stage, we could quite easily have 3 options that could play through there in Waite, Setanta and Kreuzer.

All 3 provide something a little different, and could really prove to be a handful for the opposition. Losing Warnock, and now Waite has really hurt us as our flexibility where we can't structure up as we would like.

Agree totally HBF. You never know, might even be able to throw the Hammer into that mix in a year or 2.

 

[jonoman89]

Don't worry, my sources say Goddard is coming to the Blues in 2010. We can play him at CHF.

 

[Blue since 72]

Don't worry, my sources say Goddard is coming to the Blues in 2010. We can play him at CHF.

Looks like half of the saints list will be playing for the Blues next year with another thread saying we are targeting Matt Macguire. Maybe Harvs is bending a few ears down at Moorabbin. Perhaps he can get us Nick and Leigh too. nudge nudge ... say no more.

 

[Salaryman]

Can't confirm this, but Naitanui was seen inside our dressing rooms at half time the year before he was drafted

 

[Blueboys7]

Can't confirm this, but Naitanui was seen inside our dressing rooms at half time the year before he was drafted

Look if you can't confirm it, why say it? It's just not on Gilly

 

[Sin City]

Don't worry, my sources say Goddard is coming to the Blues in 2010. We can play him at CHF.

Must be Lethal Leigh's influence already paying dividends

 

[Mister Carlton]

You laughed at someone asking if AJ was aboriginal. Then laughed at someone for suggesting Thornton being tried up forward. I laughed when you suggested that we should have picked Ziebell to play CHF.

Ziebell would be a quick fix for us at the moment. Remember Yarran and Gartlett 2+ years away from being very decent players for Carlton. Ziebell is a medium forward/midfielder.

 

[The Coach]

Thornton the pack buster? Thornton the hard, speedy leader? From what I have seen over the course of his career, Thornton's best attributes are his ability to read the play, zone off, and his poise with the ball in defense. To me that says he'd make a great hbf/back pocket.

I still think Fev works best with fast smaller Forwards than another go-to tall in the 50, when Yarran is ready I think he'll add a lot to the list. In the meantime we have about 3 drafts and trade periods to find our key forward succession plan to Fev.

I have been asking for Thornton down forward before Ratts even successfully used him there for a Q. He can mark the ball - forget the rest of the job description as this along with Carlos and the smalls would give us an unpredictable forward line. When Waitey comes back (another I have always wanted forward) maybe we wont need him down there.

I too don't think that Kreuze's natural instincts would be best utilized down forward

I can't believe anyone at Carlton (or Sydney) still believes a one tall forward line/ Fev can work.

 

[Blueinblood]

I hope they bring in thornton and leave in Aussie this week and Thornton can play forward for a fair whack. Next year its a bit of a non-issue as Waite and Kreuzer will be playing there. Waite is no longer needed in the backline due to Austin and Bower improving 10 fold. When Warnock comes in then Hampson can 2nd ruck and Kreuzer can play CHF, although i doubt that is the structure that will be used.